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The M2 MBP makes absolutely no sense
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Then one day you'll need to format a hard drive or memory stick...
I bet 99% of people who claim an iPad meets literally all their needs forget that time they needed to go running for a computer in order to do something the iPad still can't do after 15 updates to its OS. Formatting a storage device is of course just one example.
TLDR = keep your computer , you'll regret not having one around for that one time you really need to do something the iPad just cannot do.
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Full disclosure - I haven't read through the entire thread.
But I've been pondering this myself, and my personal guess is that it is being kept around for B2B primarily. I would guess that the base 13" MBP is the cornerstone product of Apple's B2B Mac sales and there is no reason to kill that golden goose.
But I've been pondering this myself, and my personal guess is that it is being kept around for B2B primarily. I would guess that the base 13" MBP is the cornerstone product of Apple's B2B Mac sales and there is no reason to kill that golden goose.
Yours doesn’t as there’s no physical escape key on Touch Bar Macs. You don’t have a magic computer that was specially made for you.
They mentioned it's the second best selling Mac during the WWDC keynote. Not exactly a mystery why it's being kept in the lineup.
That's the problem with this board - everyone thinks they're an expert and can open up the snark. M1 MacBook Pro with Touch Bar have a physical Escape key. That's since 2020.
Actually since 2019! There's been a physical Esc key since the keyboard redesign.
There is a sentiment I agree with. I hardly see the iPad as a full replacement for a computer. If anything it's a companion device.
You are correct. The 16” has one.
Didn’t realize they introduced the escape key on the 16” model. I stand corrected.What's this then?
Man … I’m behind the times. I guess I stopped paying attention to their Intel Macs. I’m wrong twice. My bad.
I mean a physical one. I don’t like the touch one because it has no tactile feedback.
The physical "Escape" key is present in the M1/M2 13" MBPs
And the 2020 Intel 13" and 2019 16". I just saw one (Intel 2020 13") yesterday.
But if they wanted to launch a lower-end version of the 14" with an M2 instead of an M1/M2 Pro, base 8GB of RAM, 2 ports instead of 4, etc, I'm sure that would become the second-best-selling Mac...
Put another way - I don't think it's that particular chassis, the 13" screen, that particular port configuration, or the touchbar that make the 13" M1 MBP the second best-selling Mac. It's the price and positioning in the lineup.
They won't as the new design likely has tighter margins if they cheap it down on other components. The 13" has good margins and is powerful enough.
Yes admittedly it needed more like the MagSafe and better iSight.
Everybody likes to oversimplify things to match their perspective. Reality is probably a bit of different things.
1 - It sells incredibly well as-is so why change much.
2 - Some people like the touchbar.
3 - Many prefer the form factor and/or don't care about having the latest look.
4 - Supply chain constraints mean tried-and-true can be much more effective/efficient.
5 - It helps draw a line between the Air and Pro lines to get fence walkers to upsell.
Many on here yell about wanting a practical design rather than the thinnest and lightest - this works well.
Many on here yell about not buying first gen designs (ala Air M2) - this works well.
Many on here yell about having maximum battery life with active cooling and whatnot - this works well.
Many consumers look at the touchbar as a differentiator that looks cool and/or futuristic so will upsell from the entry Air - this works well.
1 - It sells incredibly well as-is so why change much.
2 - Some people like the touchbar.
3 - Many prefer the form factor and/or don't care about having the latest look.
4 - Supply chain constraints mean tried-and-true can be much more effective/efficient.
5 - It helps draw a line between the Air and Pro lines to get fence walkers to upsell.
Many on here yell about wanting a practical design rather than the thinnest and lightest - this works well.
Many on here yell about not buying first gen designs (ala Air M2) - this works well.
Many on here yell about having maximum battery life with active cooling and whatnot - this works well.
Many consumers look at the touchbar as a differentiator that looks cool and/or futuristic so will upsell from the entry Air - this works well.
What year is yours? Is it M1? I think they do have one. Mine is 2018 i7 so doesn’t ☹️