Both my non-120Hz iPhone XR and 9.7" iPad Pro jelly scroll in landscape, the iPad also does it in portrait to a lesser degree, so the idea that it is a new issue is false.
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iPad mini The Myth of Jelly Scroll
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I never said that it was a new issue. I said that no device I’ve ever owned has exhibited it to such a degree where I’ve been made aware of it. If you have other Apple devices with display panels this bad then I feel sorry for you.
The iPad Mini frankly isn’t worth that kind of outlay.
It would need to have 8GB of RAM and a faster chip because longevity is an issue. The iPad Air already has double the amount of RAM.
Plenty of people have said they don't notice it unless they look for it so its not obvious.
I never would have noticed it had I not read about it in this forum. I can see it when I actively look for it - it is real - but don't notice it all when I don't. But clearly, some people are more sensitive to it and for them it really sucks.
I can’t see the difference between 60hz and 120hz screens with my usage pattern yet some people who claim that they can then allegedly don’t notice jelly scrolling on the Mini 6. I think there are too many Apple apologists on these forums.
The Mini 6 is way overpriced considering all its faults and poor spec. The jellyscrolling, laggy keyboard, random loud keypad clicks, poor battery life, mediocre quota of RAM, woeful text editing capabilities and on my example at least, loose hardware buttons make it a $300 tablet at best. Hopefully an iPad Mini 7 is on the horizon that will address these glaring issues.
Sure, anyone who doesn't dislike the thing you dislike is an Apple apologist.
Consider the possibility of variation in individual visual perception sensitivities.
Well these people should stop banging on about the virtues of 120hz displays because they can't even spot glaringly obvious display issues. 120hz panels are wasted on these people.
It does seem the discussion has run its course, though. Feels like no new points are being made, just repetition of prior posts and positions with slightly different words.
Woah! That made me dizzy AF. Could cause epileptic seizure?here you go
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Perspective, it might be a big deal to some, minor deal to others and no biggy for those who don’t notice it. Using the word “myth” is inaccurate as in this case its this individuals experience and acceptance or lack of observation of a fact.
It was a deal to me as I purchased Day 01 and returned it as soon as I notice it, I could not un-see it. To me on an iPad the screen is the most important thing as one is interacting with it almost always and observing this in its prominence is a big deal. People have use workarounds but that is their choice for Apple’s poor engineering decision and I agree with those forum members that it’s unacceptable.
Going to disagree with your analogy here. A high pitched sound will work with the ear in the normal way and be processed the normal way. There is no ignoring it (without ear muffs).
However, jelly-scrolling does not effect at all how I interact with the mini. I use a mini like I would a book for reading, or a tv for viewing. I don't read pages as I flip them, and I never shake my tv while watching a movie.
Likewise, on my iPad mini, I scroll with only minimal processing, stop. read. scroll again. No impact on my knowledge gathering from jelly-scrolling. Its even simpler when viewing YouTube or a movie to totally ignore the jelly-scrolling. And yes, if I look for it by rapidly flicking pages back and forth I do see it. thats just not how I use a mini.
Whereas a high pitched sound, well, that I can't ignore as easily.
Jelly-scrolling is a reality of this type of screen. It's just an easy to ignore one for most (but apparently not all)
As people age, they simply cannot hear sounds above a certain frequency. It does not mean that high frequency sound does not exist because they personally cannot hear it. In the same way, it does not mean that jelly-scrolling does not exist (or is a "myth") because someone personally does not perceive it. This is what I meant, so in that sense I think the analogy is apt.
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Speaking as someone who has aged, I understood the basis of your analogy. Where your analogy FAILS is that even in those that CAN hear it, it's a passive process beyond the control of the listener. Whereas scrolling and focusing on the screen is totally under the control of the user. Jelly-scrolling is ignored by most because it simply is not a a portion of the interface that demands user focus. We read screens that are not scrolling.
No analogy is perfect, and any analogy can be criticised as "failing" because it is not exactly the same. The purpose of an analogy is to illustrate a point, and the point in this case is to illustrate that the original post and title of the thread, that jelly-scrolling is a "myth" because OP does not perceive it, is fundamentally flawed logic.
The purpose of the analogy is not to say that viewing something on a screen is the same as listening to sounds. Obviously not.
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You read screens that are not scrolling. If you look how most social media is consumed these days, it's essentially a continuous scrolling motion, at least until something really catches your eye. I'm a middle aged dude so I'm just as likely to roll my eyes at 'kids' sitting around doing nothing but scrolling on IG, TikTok or whatever else - but even when I'm browsing the NY Times App my finger is swiping once or twice per second as I scan the content. And on each swipe I'm aware of the jelly scroll. Is it a big deal? Not to me. But outside of watching movies or reading from my Kindle App, I'm aware of it continuously as I use my Mini.
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I can see it if I look for it, and I can unsee it when I'm not looking for it.