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Tozovac

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The icons were also very controversial however few now seem to be complaining about them!

Yeah. The human spirit is amazing at coping with less than ideal situations and learning to accept things they don’t have the ability to change even if deep down they wish/know that another way of doing things was better.
 

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For me are looking awesome and do love them ❤
Some are not well shaped like QuickTime icon looks weird I hate it
 
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MDePew24

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I guess I am in a very small group that doesn't mind the icons. The only thing that is strange to me is that Messages is green and not blue. I would think they would want to push the 'blue' bubble and not the green. That's just where my mind went when I saw it.
 
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Tozovac

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I guess I am in a very small group that doesn't mind the icons. The only thing that is strange to me is that Messages is green and not blue. I would think they would want to push the 'blue' bubble and not the green. That's just where my mind went when I saw it.

I always felt green was consistent with the Phone, Messages, and FaceTime app. I’d feel putting messages as blue would be less consistent/intuitive.
 

tomi03

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I bet everything will remain the same and nothing will change during betas; the notification icon will be pixelated, misaligned text and icons, the bad combination between white and black fonts everywhere, etc, until macOS watch glasses gloves 12 is released.

macOS Big Sure is the new Boeing 737 Max in design.
 

NewUsername

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I find the new menu bar and menu bar menus (i.e. what pops up when you click File, Edit,…) incredibly ugly. I couldn't find a way to revert it to the Catalina menu bar. Did I miss something?
 

roland.g

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I like this a lot. How could I set this up on my Macs?
It’s not difficult. I started by searching google for Mac OS icon sets and flat icons. Most of what I found were download packs at Deviant Art. Then I bought an app from the Mac App Store called Image2Icon and it has tons of templates and is really easy to transform icons. I use the Round icon. There are adjustment controls so in some cases I took existing icons or icons from set or other images online and cropped them. I used Pixelmator which I already had for the icons I wanted to make any real change to. You can right click on any app and go into the Resources folder within the app to find the current icon if you want to start with that. Just copy it and drop it into the Icon making app. When you have a finished icon I suggest making a folder for those, name them by app. To change an app’s icon, right click on the app and select get info. Then drag the icon file to the icon in the far left top corner of the get info window and drop it onto the existing icon. The system will ask you to admin authenticate most of the time. Some times when an app has an update, whether system, Mac App Store, or you just update the app, it will revert the icon. You may need to replace the icon again. I keep my icons in a folder and when I update apps I check which ones went back and redo them quickly.
 

jdiamond

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FWIW, I've waited literally my whole life for computer graphics to get so good that people could make photographic quality icons - not to squander modern technology to draw 1970s era monochrome vector line drawings. For my preferences, the most beautiful OS-X was Tiger, and the prettiest iOS was iOS 6. (Not to imply that there was nothing great since then - many Tiger/iOS elements were preserved.)

Why on earth would you want to make icons look like buttons on a platform where you don't press them? Why not make the OS itself a thing of beauty to be proud of, instead of something that fades into the background? Remember how people pay 10x for Apple laptops - it's a luxury device. And the look of the OS is part of that luxury experience.

I realize a ton of you folks love the idea that icons should be just a few simple lines, but I wanted to post this to represent the people that appreciate graphical richness.

That being said, I'm way waaaayyyyy past being "horrified" by Apple making bad graphical choices. I'm more concerned with functionality. Like when Ives decided that icons in the finder pane should all be black and white, and all of a sudden, I couldn't easily spot my shortcuts anymore. That really hurt my productivity as well as aesthetics.
 

Tozovac

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Green is SMS and blue is iMessage when using the app, so on the desktop blue makes more sense.
Sure — SMS is the larger basket of messaging, and iMessages is a subset. Therefore, keeping green icons for the three major communications apps makes a lot more sense in my opinion. It certainly wouldn’t lead to mass confusion if the icon were blue, but green makes more bigger picture sense to me at least.
 

usagora

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It's because you have no taste, and your perspective in aesthetic and design must be trash. People can think these icons are trash, don't waste your time in this thread and try to make people think otherwise or defend it, you need to get back to work, so go on now

Wow, touchy. Just because someone doesn't have the same design preference as you do doesn't mean they have no taste; it just means they have a different perspective (and no, it's not "trash" just because it doesn't align with yours). You're not winning anyone over to your side by personally attacking them.

I also think when people use extreme language to describe their disapproval of a UI ("disgusted," "atrocious," "hate it," etc.), it is sort of asking for the type of response that triggered you there because people can sense the imbalance. It's not that you don't have good points, it's just that they're presented in an extremely caustic way that makes it sound like Apple's designers are just about at the lowest level of Dante's Inferno.
 
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usagora

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Yeah. The human spirit is amazing at coping with less than ideal situations and learning to accept things they don’t have the ability to change even if deep down they wish/know that another way of doing things was better.

. . . or deep down they realized that this is a completely subjective topic and the designs have grown on them.
 

symphony

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Wow, touchy. Just because someone doesn't have the same design preference as you do doesn't mean they have no taste; it just means they have a different perspective (and no, it's not "trash" just because it doesn't align with yours). You're not winning anyone over to your side by personally attacking them.

I also think when people use extreme language to describe their disapproval of a UI ("disgusted," "atrocious," "hate it," etc.), it is sort of asking for the type of response that triggered you there because people can sense the imbalance. It's not that you don't have good points, it's just that they're presented in an extremely caustic way that makes it sound like Apple's designers are just about at the lowest level of Dante's Inferno.
Yuck. 🤢 🤮. Gross. So disgusting. Those icons...are atrocious.

anyway

I don’t care what people think about me, I’m just saying how it is.
If you want me to sugar coat it, then you can replace any word that is either ‘tasteless full’ or ‘trash less’ and replace it with whatever you want.
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anyway, this design isn’t what Jony Ive died for. If Jony was still here, he would’ve
 
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usagora

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If you want me to sugar coat it, then you can replace any word that is either ‘tasteless’ or ‘trash’ and replace it with whatever you want.

I'm just calling for some balance, that's all. Like I said, I think you have some good points at the core, but the extreme language just cheapens your points and makes it sound more like a personal vendetta than constructive feedback. And this is coming from someone very keen on design - I'm not one of those who just says "who cares?" But you have to pick and choose your battles when it comes to thing outside your control.
 
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symphony

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I'm just calling for some balance, that's all. Like I said, I think you have some good points at the core, but the extreme language just cheapens your points and makes it sound more like a personal vendetta than constructive feedback. And this is coming from someone very keen on design - I'm not one of those who just says "who cares?"
Okay, I take it back.
 
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