You lost me here. Don't get too hung up with the quoting. Let me make this simple: (This has nothing to do with your comments)
1) There is no evidence to suggest that the 2017 i7 7700K iMac gets hot any faster than previous generation iMacs.
2) The i7 7700K in the 2017 iMac is not defective.
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It's pretty clear to me that they did not when their main argument is that some users in the Intel community are reporting sudden 7700K temperature spikes, primarily in overclocking as solid evidence that those in the iMac heat up too fast and are defective.
Why are you so hung up on the overclocking part? There are some that are reporting high temperature spikes running stock too. And when delidding the processor, even when overclocked, brings it from 90s to 60s. People have these things super cooled, usually through water cooling. It is pretty common to overclock and still have these K processors operate in the 60s or 70s under load. But this one specifically is much hotter and it does reach the 100 threshold when overclocked very easily. People are not overclocking these things to 6 Ghz and complaining.
Why don't you get it? If there were NO reported issues with the 7700K, I would have just assumed I had a bad iMac. It happens. But these things are proven to be difficult to keep cool due to the voltage and temperature spikes. If X has issues with spiking and getting hot fast, overclocking X causes severe issues (blue screen, force shut down due to overheating, and more). That is what people are complaining about. It is not just overclocking X is causing the issues. There are people reporting issues with the 7700K running stock too. So when you overclock an already problematic CPU, things get worse.
I don't understand the issue here. Overclocking enhances the problem. That does not mean there is NO issue when running stock (as people have reported that too). These iMacs are not shutting down within minutes due to going over 100 Celsius, which DOES happen to overclockers. THAT is an issue with overclocking, but there is still an issue with these running stock too.
As I have said, if there were no reports of 7700K problems when I performed my test, I would have assumed I had a bad iMac. It does happen.
Intel DOES state that not even overclocked, just opening a website, or a program, or a background process, you can expect to see a +25/35 Celsius spike. They recommend NOT to overclock a K processor due to this, and they say it is normal. Now, if you are using FCPX and running at 60 Celsius, if it spikes to 90 Celsius, guess what? The fans need to kick on.
The evidence is there. A K processor is advertised to overclockers. When Intel states that it is normal for these spikes under stock speeds and to NOT overclock them, there is a problem. My test showed that these things got
the same level of noise as the 2015 i7 iMac, but it got there
much faster. As proof by Intel themselves that large spikes are common. Usually within half a second you can see these temperatures go from 50-60 to 70-90. So the fans need to kick on sooner. Which I saw from testing the 2015 i7 iMac and 2017 i7 iMac.
Again, I am not saying it is
louder. Just that the fans kick in sooner.
And who knows, I could very well have had a bad iMac that made it worse during my test. But all these 7700K issues make me think otherwise.
And actually, overclocked or not, if people have issues even water cooling these, the thin iMac design does more harm than a water-cooled design. People running stock and getting very expensive and better heatsinks and fans are still having issues.
