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I will be ordering parts for my hackintosh tonight... and it isn't as complicated as it seems! if this update has you fuming I encorage you to check tonymac or other hackintosh site out.... At least Apples OS is "free" lol

I built an Ivy Bridge hackintosh a couple of years ago. It really is almost as easy as setting up a windows boot camp on a Mac. I used a TonyMac guide and bought all the parts for one of the golden builds.

But I don't see the point anymore. Comparing windows 10 to Yosemite, I think my Mac OS days are done. I hope a lot of the people here who are fuming will give windows a good and open minded glance.

My in-laws have been struggling with an 8 year old PC, and I've been telling them to wait and get a new mini. I ordered them an i5 Intel NUC a couple of hours ago.
 
Wow. 2 years to wait for a vastly worse machine. Price for performance, the old model is actually the better buy and minimum $1000 for a quad core machine is just a sick joke.

It's sicker than you think. The $1000 i7 is dual core, not quad.
 
Why 4k. Regular 27" monitors are 300€~ plus the not crippled legendary mini and you woud have better computer than imacs. Not as good screen but i would have done it. I dont want my computer integrated with the screen.

I agree with you 100%. I was only saying that even if you do want to spend the money a high end iMac will cost, you'd still have to be a complete idiot to go that route. The fact that you can get a superior computer for under half the price is just icing.
 
As someone who's used a Mac for 16 years, Apple officially doesn't make a single product I would even considering buying anymore.
l think l've just broken the 26 year mark, and l think you're pretty much right. lf money were no object l'd rather like a well-specced Mac Pro, but back in the real world the only Apple product currently in production that l could envisage buying is the iPhone 5s.
 
I hope Apple brings back quad core with the next refresh.

I was planning to consider the new quad-core and now there isn't one.
 
I agree with you 100%. I was only saying that even if you do want to spend the money a high end iMac will cost, you'd still have to be a complete idiot to go that route. The fact that you can get a superior computer for under half the price is just icing.


I misunderstood. Sorry. You are right.
 
After seeing new MacMini what is offered with, I think it would be fair from Apple to make some changes when they decide to refresh Mac Pro.

We need more affordable version of Mac Pro :(
 
They're obvously making sure that there's breathng space for next year's Macntosh?

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On the upsde, 've just won an unopened Wreless Keyboard and Magc Mouse for £41 on eBay, whch sn't bad. Today's not all been sht.

When your new keyboard arrives, can I have your old certified iToy-free keyboard?
 
My in-laws have been struggling with an 8 year old PC, and I've been telling them to wait and get a new mini. I ordered them an i5 Intel NUC a couple of hours ago.

The $699 Mini announced today is actually a pretty decent in-law machine.

I think I will be purchasing some for essentially that purpose.
 
The old Mac mini is finally upon us! I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm sticking around in this thread for the new Mac mini.
Heh. This thread cannot be allowed to die until the new and improved Mac mini is with us.

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When your new keyboard arrives, can I have your old certified iToy-free keyboard?
'll leave t outsde the front door for you.

Another Apple grumble: why s there no wreless extended keyboard?
 
Losing support for quad-core processors is disappointing, but I don't think it's as bad as some are making it out to be.

The new Mini (excluding the weakened $499 base model) is essentially what we expected it to be. I wish it had stayed at $599 instead of jumping to $699, but 8GB RAM is good, Iris 5100 graphics is acceptable, and dual thunderbolt ports is nice. It should be future-proof for a while.

I might still purchase a discounted 2012 Mini, especially if it were quad core, if the price were right. But how future-proof is the 2012 Mini, with its HD 4000 graphics? It will probably run OSX 10.11 but will it run OSX 10.12?
 
Hi,

i work in an Apple Reseller and like many of you i'm waiting for the mini 2013 refresh.

From monday the two major Apple suppliers in Italy are suddenly and completely out of stock of minis. I know that this happen from time to time, but the timing is no coincidence.

Trust me, a new mini is coming next week, or at least we have solid evidence to believe it.

Well maybe a little premature, but finally got that update. Only a year later than you hoped for!
 
I missed that, thanks. So basically we would have been 100% better off with no update. Nice. I bet the old models sell like hotcakes in the refurb store.

Yeah, I have been thinking about getting a discounted 2012. It would be the logical conclusion since I have been saying for months that I would be fine with the old 2012 model as long as it was properly priced for its age. But now it feels like getting the 2012 mini would just be an unhealthy form of clinging to a company that does not want me as a customer. And I feel the same way about the hackintosh route.

So, I'm not sure what I will do. The only thing I'm sure of is that I will not get the 2014 mini. Sure, for me who was in the market for a dual core i5 this Haswell update is pretty much what I expected. But I did not expect it to be starting at $899. (I'm not counting the joke configurations.)
 
It seems they are crippling mini however i think the main reason is the imac because its easy to find a 27" screen and use with powerful mini and just replace the monitor when something happens. They want us to buy a full imac when it goes. I still dont see mini vs nmp comparison.
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Because there is no desktop alternative besides a Mac Pro. That's the comparison...being that if Apple made a Mini with iMac/rMBP specs it would eat into sales of people buying Mac Pros because it would give them a choice. There is no choice in the Apple landscape for years.

Let me rephrase. If you're doing semi heavy editing and you need a solo desktop what are you're choices from Apple?

Mac Pro.....that's it.

If the Mini had iMac or even rMBP specs then it would give consumers two choices instead of one because iMac/rMBP are pretty capable computers.
 
I didnt watch the keynote. Anyonr can tell me what the "too long" hype turned out? Nothing seems to be about mini and i think 5k imac is not what many have been waiting desperately for years. Others are blah blah blah. Whats too long?
 
Because there is no desktop alternative besides a Mac Pro. That's the comparison...being that if Apple made a Mini with iMac/rMBP specs it would eat into sales of people buying Mac Pros because it would give them a choice. There is no choice in the Apple landscape for years.

Let me rephrase. If you're doing semi heavy editing and you need a solo desktop what are you're choices from Apple?

Mac Pro.....that's it.

If the Mini had iMac or even rMBP specs then it would give consumers two choices instead of one because iMac/rMBP are pretty capable computers.

The iMac is a desktop. The high end iMac cuts into the low end Pro market. The Mini cuts into the low end iMac market. You keep trying to compare the mini to the Pro but they aren't comparable and won't ever be. If you want a Mini with the power of a Pro, get the Pro.

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I didnt watch the keynote. Anyonr can tell me what the "too long" hype turned out? Nothing seems to be about mini and i think 5k imac is not what many have been waiting desperately for years. Others are blah blah blah. Whats too long?

Wasn't really clear what was too long. It was likely the iMac. They did talk about the Mini briefly.

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I don't think the RAM is soldered is it? Comparing the MBP Buy page when configuring the memory it says:

"MacBook Pro with Retina display comes with 8GB of 1600MHz memory as standard. Please note that the memory is built into the computer, so if you think you may need more memory in the future, it is important to upgrade at the time of purchase."

The Mini BTO memory option doesn't say that at all. Case looks the same so presumably still user upgradable..

Now I wonder if the CPU can be swapped out :confused:

On the other hand, the Retina iMac specifically says it is user accessible and the Mini page does not.
 
Because there is no desktop alternative besides a Mac Pro. That's the comparison...being that if Apple made a Mini with iMac/rMBP specs it would eat into sales of people buying Mac Pros because it would give them a choice. There is no choice in the Apple landscape for years.

Let me rephrase. If you're doing semi heavy editing and you need a solo desktop what are you're choices from Apple?

Mac Pro.....that's it.

If the Mini had iMac or even rMBP specs then it would give consumers two choices instead of one because iMac/rMBP are pretty capable computers.


I understand your perspective. From where i look i think any semi-heavy editors could buy nMp given the mini were powerful enough. We are not talking about a great desktop cpu/gpu powered monster mini. It would still be an amateur mobile computer unlike nMp. I would have even bought it if it had a single cpu and a lower price. It seems they positioned nMp so that it wont kill lower end minis and imacs.

I agree that they get the choice from the customer by directing perception. However i think there are not much people from pc world to choose nMp. Instead their choices would be imac or mini. If apple made a proper mini with great prices they could dominate pc/gaming/office market and as more people get involved more people would get to know that apple also have computers.

However from a little footage of the keynote i can see that ipad is the new mac mini for apple??? And aplples idea of computer is not like as we are used to. They try to shift the paradigm. I am confused what to do next.
 
It's sicker than you think. The $1000 i7 is dual core, not quad.
Even sicker, the $1000 model is not even an i7, it's an i5.


2.8GHz Mac mini
Specifications
2.8GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
8GB memory
1TB Fusion Drive1
Intel Iris Graphics
OS X Yosemite
$999.00
Free Shipping
6, 12, or 18 month
special financing
 
Even sicker, the $1000 model is not even an i7, it's an i5.


2.8GHz Mac mini
Specifications
2.8GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
8GB memory
1TB Fusion Drive1
Intel Iris Graphics
OS X Yosemite
$999.00
Free Shipping
6, 12, or 18 month
special financing

Right, but the middle model can be upgraded to i7 and then it ends up at $999 too.
 
The iMac is a desktop.

Yes I think we understand that. We're talking about non all-in-one computers.


If you want a Mini with the power of a Pro, get the Pro.


Ok...and if I want a Mini with the power of a iMac? What do I do? Hackintosh?

You see an obvious gap in Apple's product lineup? Like many people I don't need a $3,000 Mac Pro and I sure as heck don't need an all in one computer. We're not asking for anything crazy. Just a mid range traditional desktop. How can there not be a market for a $1500 traditional desktop Mac with all the people dropping 2 grand editing on Macbook Pros and iMacs.

I don't have an advanced background in hardware engineering but I think Apple wouldn't be that challenged in figuring out had to stick a quad core chip and a dedicated GPU in it. We are not talking about anything insane compared to what Apple has engineered before.
 
i am lost...

I am glad to purchase a MM "late 2012" 4core-i7 last august, definitly.
I keep my iPhone 5.

When i see that "new" MM, when i read that 25% of the sales of iPhone X, today, is the iPhone 6+... i am lost.
 
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