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I am aware of that, but I wonder about Apple's plans after Yosemite. I just find the removal of the Server model puzzling when it required no real separate product line.

Dedicated server models stopped making sense when Apple put server in the App Store. Now you install it on any machine you want plus additional machines that are management consoles.


It appears like the Mac Mini is a mid-tier MacBook Pro without a screen. That's not bad. And I NEED a Macintosh without a monitor. I am a photographer and most of the photos I take are in portrait mode. You don't know how much time I started saving once I started using a portrait monitor.

My first portrait screen was a radius back in the 90s, handy for all kinds of things. Imagine never having to scroll most web sites again. And now you can 'tile' 2 or 3 together for even more space. And if you make them rotatable 16:10s, guests who might freak out can switch as needed without complaint.
 
I have been using Linux Mint for half a year with good results, which has put me in a position to be a bit more picky with what Apple is offering. Apple is simply no longer my only way out of having to use Windows.

One should never say never, but I'm not very keen on going back to Windows. I have been Windows-free for 10 years now, as long as I don't count every day that I go to work. But at least my home is Windows-free, as long as I don't count all the times I bring my work laptop home... but you know what I mean!

But who knows, maybe Windows 10 is really good. Not that I'd find out since I won't try it... but if I only hear good things about Windows I may try it as soon as in the Windows 12-to-16 time frame.

Did I try out mint? yes
Would I ever use it as primary OS again? NO
you would better go windows then...
 
You obviously have different currency in Tokyo. Here in the USA it's nearly 700 dollars for a dual core with no solid state as standard.

The price in Belgium is the same as in the usa
at least the numbers are
dollar sign is replaced by euro sign
some importer is earning big time...

I also considered buying a spare but 817 euro no refurbish, well I will see what the future brings
 
I also feel like one earlier poster: Apple just doesn't seem to want me (personally) as a customer :p I can't find a single configuration that I want to spend money on in the OSX environment. And I am a 30 year user of Apple computers and have used them professionally at a major magazine, academically and personally for a long time. I am a long time user of BSD, Solaris, Unix, VaxVMS, etc.

Plus, I personally don't want to touch Windows ever again. As someone who did PC and network support from 95-'99 and dealt with 3.11, '95, '98, NT, XP in a large environment, it will take mountains moving for me to go back. NOTHING has been as stable as NT for msft and they put it out to pasture. And nothing since XP sp2 has remotely been as smooth and stable with changing audio hardware updates.

If Apple is no longer making what you want then I think you're doing yourself a disservice excluding Windows from consideration based on your experiences with Windows 3.11 / 95 / 98 / NT / XP. Windows XP was released in late 2001...thirteen years ago. While a popular OS and just recently retired Microsoft has released Vista / Windows 7 / Windows 8 / 8.1 since then. There are fundamental under the hood improvements to the OS. To exclude a potential solution is foolish if you're doing so based on, at the latest, a thirteen year old design.
 
I also found out Apple's prices for RAM are actually rather reasonable. Assuming the new Mac Mini uses the same RAM as the 2012 Mac Mini, you can find 16 GB at Crucial for $150, and at Other World Computing for $200. Apple charges $200 for the upgrade. I still don't know if RAM will be upgradable after you buy it on the current model. I have the feeling it will probably be.

It appears like the Mac Mini is a mid-tier MacBook Pro without a screen. That's not bad. And I NEED a Macintosh without a monitor. I am a photographer and most of the photos I take are in portrait mode. You don't know how much time I started saving once I started using a portrait monitor. Further, the Mac Pro is too expensive for me and even though it is very fast for video editing, it will not be much faster for photo editing, web design, email, and web browsing than a regular Mac.

That probably justifies an upgrade on my part. I have been with my current Mac Mini for four years and have been waiting for an update from Apple for a year. A better GPU will probably be better for me than four cores.

Therefore, I just placed an order for a new Mac Mini with the following configuration:

3.0 GHz i7
16 GB RAM
256 GB SSD

It should be delivered by Halloween.

Well congrats. I'm sure you will like it buts its a lot of cash for that computer.

I just got a quad-core Intel Core i7 for $589 in the refurb section. With 16 GB of ram and 256 SSD its going to be less than $900...basically $500 cheaper than the new mini.
 
mini 3.0GHz dual core i7, lris, 16GB 1600MHz RAM, 1TB Fusion drive: $1399

iMac 21.5" 2.7GHz quad core i7, lris Pro, same RAM/storage: $1699

Or $300 for a superior CPU, a superior GPU, a half-decent-if-disgustingly-glossy display in a presumably more expensive to produce casing, a wireless keyboard and mouse (worth $138), and last but not least a Kensington lock slot.

Apple are 'aving a laugh.
 
mini 3.0GHz dual core i7, lris, 16GB 1600MHz RAM, 1TB Fusion drive: $1399

iMac 21.5" 2.7GHz quad core i7, lris Pro, same RAM/storage: $1699

Or $300 for a superior CPU, a superior GPU, a half-decent-if-disgustingly-glossy display in a presumably more expensive to produce casing, a wireless keyboard and mouse (worth $138), and last but not least a Kensington lock slot.

Apple are 'aving a laugh.

I know... i would have gone with the iMac but I really want to be able to take my computer home from work every once in a while. The software I use is expensive and I can't afford to buy it myself for work at home.
 
A ray of hope?

The i5-4250U based Intel NUC is $350 at NewEgg.com and it has a PassMark score of 3462.

Tonymacx86 has the hackintosh install guide for it.
 
There was about the same number of games capable of running in NT as they are for Mac OS X.

It was frustrating in general. I ran NT 3.51 and 4.0 back when home systems had Windows 95 and 98. I was always irked by the lack of driver support. I didn't try games.
 
I have an iMac 24" at home with Core 2 Duo, 2.66Ghz, and 4gb RAM, 640 GB HD. It has been a great workhorse machine. Easily the best, more reliable computer I've ever owned. But it is starting to feel a little 'slower' than expected in terms of simple programs opening like MS Word etc.

I imagine even the new base Mac-Mini will outperform my iMac? But at $699, with an upgrade to Fusion drive, I imagine I would get even more significant performance bump ...not to mention the addition of USB 3, Thunderbolt, faster Wi-Fi, faster and more RAM ....

So for me (and maybe many others), even the Dual core i5 Mac Mini with Iris Graphics, 8GB RAM and the Fusion drive will be a great deal ...and cheaper than what I spent on my iMac over 6 years ago. Granted, I need a monitor, Keyboard and mouse, but I have them already. So a $699 Mac-mini with a modest HD Upgrade to fusion is a lot of desktop performance compared to my older iMac.

Probably a better recording machine for my single or dual track home-studio options too.

Thoughts?
 
So for me (and maybe many others), even the Dual core i5 Mac Mini with Iris Graphics, 8GB RAM and the Fusion drive will be a great deal ...

Thoughts?

Really, the only losers with the 2014s are those that need the maximum performance quad core or 2TB of internal drives, both no longer available. And, of course, people who what to upgrade their computers themselves. For everyone else, the 2014s are a better deal.
 
Helloooooo Hackintosh!

mini 3.0GHz dual core i7, lris, 16GB 1600MHz RAM, 1TB Fusion drive: $1399

iMac 21.5" 2.7GHz quad core i7, lris Pro, same RAM/storage: $1699

Or $300 for a superior CPU, a superior GPU, a half-decent-if-disgustingly-glossy display in a presumably more expensive to produce casing, a wireless keyboard and mouse (worth $138), and last but not least a Kensington lock slot.

Apple are 'aving a laugh.

It is disappointing. I'd be happy to pay for a Quad-Core nMP, but I can't afford it. Thank god I bought my 2012 Mini i7 last year. I hedged correctly. I hope the machine works for most. For you Pro Tools users, let me know if you get one of the new MM's to work for you.
Don't forget to buy a Thunderbolt dock.
 
We wait 2 years for a Mini downgrade - only Apple could turn that into a positive - besides some of their deluded consumers of course. :eek:

So 2 years ago you saw there was a new mac mini available, and said "not for me!" and waited all this time for an update?

Some of these comments are just.. the worst :confused:
 
I have an iMac 24" at home with Core 2 Duo, 2.66Ghz, and 4gb RAM, 640 GB HD. It has been a great workhorse machine. Easily the best, more reliable computer I've ever owned. But it is starting to feel a little 'slower' than expected in terms of simple programs opening like MS Word etc.

I imagine even the new base Mac-Mini will outperform my iMac? But at $699, with an upgrade to Fusion drive, I imagine I would get even more significant performance bump ...not to mention the addition of USB 3, Thunderbolt, faster Wi-Fi, faster and more RAM ....

So for me (and maybe many others), even the Dual core i5 Mac Mini with Iris Graphics, 8GB RAM and the Fusion drive will be a great deal ...and cheaper than what I spent on my iMac over 6 years ago. Granted, I need a monitor, Keyboard and mouse, but I have them already. So a $699 Mac-mini with a modest HD Upgrade to fusion is a lot of desktop performance compared to my older iMac.

Probably a better recording machine for my single or dual track home-studio options too.

Thoughts?

I went from the same 24" imac to the 2012 i7 mini, as my imac was on its last leg. I did have to buy a new monitor tho. It works fine although I do still miss that imac. I think you would find it to be much quicker, actually much much quicker. You can't go wrong with an update like that.
 
I understand some people's disappointment. However, for many this is still a good deal. I'll be going to the Apple Store on Saturday to try to buy one. My needs are mostly to push media to my projector and stereo. It will be much better than my 2010 mini and the price seems fair to me. I know many people need more power and this doesn't meet their needs. I hope Apple comes up with a machine that meets those needs. For me, I'll enjoy the heck out of this new machine. Cheers.
 
It will be interesting to see some benchmarks and tear-downs on the updated mini. Now that I do gaming only on a gaming pc, my 2011 2.3 i5, 8 gb ram MacBook Pro is still fine in clamshell mode, so I'll wait to see what the full release of Broadwell brings (maybe a new case design?), and more interestingly, what comes with Skylake. I think my 2011 should make it until then.
 
okay finally back online. And what can I get with this mini.

okay 999 gets me a dual core i7.

I can add an ssd and some ram
for free

so 999 and I get the 3.0 i7 cpu but it is a dual core. or

699 and get the 2.6 i5 and it is a dual core.

wow a no brainer for me I order a 2.6 i5 stock

699

keep my quad core.

and sell either the 2011 with discrete gpu

or the stock 2012 with intgrated gpu .

my gain is a quicker gpu in the iris and a quicker cpu as the new i5 is better then the old i5.

maybe 200 out of pocket more like 300 out of pocket. for the up grade.
 
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