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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

philipma1957 said:
okay finally back online. And what can I get with this mini.

okay 999 gets me a dual core i7.

I can add an ssd and some ram
for free

so 999 and I get the 3.0 i7 cpu but it is a dual core. or

699 and get the 2.6 i5 and it is a dual core.

wow a no brainer for me I order a 2.6 i5 stock

699

keep my quad core.

and sell either the 2011 with discrete gpu

or the stock 2012 with intgrated gpu .

my gain is a quicker gpu in the iris and a quicker cpu as the new i5 is better then the old i5.

maybe 200 out of pocket more like 300 out of pocket. for the up grade.
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Your logic makes sense to me. the $699 i5 is the value leader. Upgrade RAM myself if needed? 8gb might be fine for me.

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Question: Upgrade to a Fusion drive SSD/1TB Storage.

Or can I add an SSD to the existing version with the 1TB HD? Or does the SSD replace the HD?

If I add a SSD, Can I assign the OS to the SSD to make things open and run fast? Or would I have to reload the OS on the SSD drive?

Does anyone know if the RAM is user upgradeable in the new Mini? If so, adding an 8GB stick would probably serve me well for a total of 16GB RAM.
 
philipma1957 said:
okay finally back online. And what can I get with this mini.

okay 999 gets me a dual core i7.

I can add an ssd and some ram
for free

so 999 and I get the 3.0 i7 cpu but it is a dual core. or

699 and get the 2.6 i5 and it is a dual core.

wow a no brainer for me I order a 2.6 i5 stock

699

keep my quad core.

and sell either the 2011 with discrete gpu

or the stock 2012 with intgrated gpu .

my gain is a quicker gpu in the iris and a quicker cpu as the new i5 is better then the old i5.

maybe 200 out of pocket more like 300 out of pocket. for the up grade.
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I believe it's $1200 for the 3.0Ghz cpu
 
cfedu said:
I believe it's $1200 for the 3.0Ghz cpu
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no it is 1200 for the i7 plus fusion but if you do this below it is 999

no fusion just the upgrade to the dual core i7 which for me is meh.

I can build a fusion for free. do not need it. and a dual core i7 is so what.

I am pretty much forced to buy the 699 i5 model. It gives me a decent graphics boost. with okay ram and okay cpu.
 

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Well I for one are pretty happy that Apple has kept the Mini going. Especially when for a while it looked like the Mini might be on the way out. The low end machine was pretty well expected if they were going to keep it going so to have the two more powerful versions added to the lineup is a bonus. Next time though could we please get a lock connector for it.
 
philipma1957 said:
no it is 1200 for the i7 plus fusion but if you do this below it is 999

no fusion just the upgrade to the dual core i7 which for me is meh.

I can build a fusion for free. do not need it. and a dual core i7 is so what.

I am pretty much forced to buy the 699 i5 model
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I see that now, so 200$ extra for a small SSD (256 SSD and a 750 GB spinner)
 
Gairman said:
Your logic makes sense to me. the $699 i5 is the value leader. Upgrade RAM myself if needed? 8gb might be fine for me.

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Question: Upgrade to a Fusion drive SSD/1TB Storage.

Or can I add an SSD to the existing version with the 1TB HD? Or does the SSD replace the HD?

If I add a SSD, Can I assign the OS to the SSD to make things open and run fast? Or would I have to reload the OS on the SSD drive?

Does anyone know if the RAM is user upgradeable in the new Mini? If so, adding an 8GB stick would probably serve me well for a total of 16GB RAM.
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used to be add a ssd and boom a fusion will come about. not sure with this model… also not sure if it allows easy ram upgrade.

I think i will move my 2011 discrete gpu model on ebay. I like being able to get the better gpu the iris 5200 discrete is a decent gpu. And 699 is okay since I have a ton of parts to toss at it.

@ cfedu check options carefully sometimes they are funky weird and you can be taken for money
 
talmy said:
You obviously have different currency in Tokyo. Here in the USA it's nearly 700 dollars for a dual core with no solid state as standard.
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Ok well if you want to split hairs, it's nearer to $750 for the mid model. 750 bucks for a dual core i5 machine. The quad i7 model it replaces is the same price here.
 
philipma1957 said:
used to be add a ssd and boom a fusion will come about. not sure with this model… also not sure if it allows easy ram upgrade.

I think i will move my 2011 discrete gpu model on ebay. I like being able to get the better gpu the iris 5200 discrete is a decent gpu. And 699 is okay since I have a ton of parts to toss at it.

@ cfedu check options carefully sometimes they are funky weird and you can be taken for money
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but its only Iris 5100, benchmarks considerably lower than 5200 and doesn't have 4k60hz support. And with soldered ram the only part you can use is hd/ssd.
 
Great news that Apple kept the Mini going and I think what Phil said clearly how they see the machine, it's an entry level product, a first Mac. I'm glad they acknowledged they have a strong fan base for it too.

Headline grabbing price cut isn't aimed at us, it's the folk still using Windows.

So my plans are unchanged, I got my iPhone 6 and I'm in NY this week hoping they get iPad Air 2 in stock (they weren't sure when I asked yesterday) so I can save vs UK prices. The Mini I will think about a switch, no doubt the new machines will be a big improvement on my 2009 but maybe it's time for an SSD in it (dual drive with WD black 750) and wait see if they Broadwell the Mini. With the faster ports drives can be added externally (as Talmy says), I think the Apple memory pricing is OK so soldered doesn't bother me too much.

Thanks to all who've posted here, useful for me to understand what the deal is with the upgrade.

Let's not start another Mini thread, we can discuss the 2015/16 refresh here :)
 
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I agree with Jambalaya. Maybe we underestimate the power of the die hard fan .. who knows, maybe Apple had bucket heads arguing to drop the Mini altogether for various reasons relating to production capacity, competition with more expensive models, whatever ... and it was the passion/wit/ridiculosity of this lone thread that persuaded them to spare its life? And now there will be more in the future.

Seems like that's how networks do it ... cancel a show, and then if there's a huge outcry agree to give it more seasons, and then raise the price of advertising since the fan base is so loyal. Maybe this scrap-bin box is a good sign? Keep asking for more! Keep bugging Apple for upgradability! And a better keyboard, lord I hate that tiny piece of junk they sell, the one that doesn't click and hasn't any German sounding articles in the name.
 
I'm still of an opinion that Apple Has a redesign ready for Broadwell. They upgraded the 2014 to buy some time. Next October we will see a Broadwell Mini.
 
Jambalaya said:
Let's not start another Mini thread, we can discuss the 2015/16 refresh here :)
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You are right. That thread title is generic enough. Maybe there will be a 2015 server model with two drives (2TB capacity again but the line will be 100% SSDs) and a quad core i7. And while they are at it, put it in a new black round housing big enough for powerful discrete graphics (take the Mac Pro "trash can" and shrink it to an "ash tray") yet at the same time magically small like the Apple TV.

Oh, and keep the same new lower price points!
 
talmy said:
You are right. That thread title is generic enough. Maybe there will be a 2015 server model with two drives (2TB capacity again but the line will be 100% SSDs) and a quad core i7. And while they are at it, put it in a new black round housing big enough for powerful discrete graphics (take the Mac Pro "trash can" and shrink it to an "ash tray") yet at the same time magically small like the Apple TV.

Oh, and keep the same new lower price points!
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I agree with you. I think we will se an aesthetically designed new Mini that will last in an event for more than 15 seconds.
 
tubular said:
I pulled the trigger today on an i7 quad-core Mac Mini at 2.6GHz, after waiting since July 2013 for the Godot update. So if the new Mini drops on September 9, all I can say is: you're welcome.
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Okay, a month late, but you're welcome.
 
I'm going to wait and see how well the Mini is received before I buy one. Would like to see a tear down and benchmarks. What I planned to get was the top i7, 256gb SSD, and 8Gb RAM. Price for the 2012 and 2014 are the same at $1199. Yes, we got AC wireless, PCIe, and TB upgrades, but two cores are missing. If it were still 4 core I'd be telling you today I have one on order.

I plan for the Mini to replace my PC and connect it to the same 52" HDTV. But I have also considered buying a 27" 2560x1440 monitor for $550. That puts the price for the system at $1750. Coughing up another $750 gets me a 5k iMac with stronger CPU, dGPU, and 5120x2880 resolution. Yes, I just doubled the price from $1200 to $2500 so it's hardly a fair comparison. But you have to admit the 5k iMac is an attractive PC.
 
DCLB4X4 said:
I'm going to wait and see how well the Mini is received before I buy one. Would like to see a tear down and benchmarks. What I planned to get was the top i7, 256gb SSD, and 8Gb RAM. Price for the 2012 and 2014 are the same at $1199. Yes, we got AC wireless, PCIe, and TB upgrades, but two cores are missing. If it were still 4 core I'd be telling you today I have one on order.

I plan for the Mini to replace my PC and connect it to the same 52" HDTV. But I have also considered buying a 27" 2560x1440 monitor for $550. That puts the price for the system at $1750. Coughing up another $750 gets me a 5k iMac with stronger CPU, dGPU, and 5120x2880 resolution. Yes, I just doubled the price from $1200 to $2500 so it's hardly a fair comparison. But you have to admit the 5k iMac is an attractive PC.
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I'm looking forward to seeing some benchmarks and frame rates with the retina imac. Maybe the mini that can drive a 5k display will be a good one.
 
cfedu said:
I see that now, so 200$ extra for a small SSD (256 SSD and a 750 GB spinner)
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Fusion drive actually has a 128MB SSD. I presume it's the same 1GB spinner, but they didn't think it was worth it to say "1.12GB fusion drive."

Crosscreek said:
I'm still of an opinion that Apple Has a redesign ready for Broadwell. They upgraded the 2014 to buy some time. Next October we will see a Broadwell Mini.
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I would hope Broadwell Minis would come before October. Maybe quad-cores come back, depending on the reason they went away. Did quad-core go away for thermal or pricing reasons, or to widen the nMP performance gap? (I hear that 5200 Iris Pro CPUs are $$$.)

Perhaps Skylake Minis by November/December, 2015.
 
Does anyone, based on previous product releases, have any idea when the new minis will reach stores?
 
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