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You mean like a Raspberry Pi :eek::p Ok lol;)
An angry Pi 2 consumes ~4W per hour. Let's say 100W per day. Consumer electricity in the UK costs ~£0.10/KW, so a working Pi 2 would cost me around a penny a day to run. Do you think I'm made of money? I demand better.

Plus those cigarette packet sized cases completely dominate the room.
 
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An angry Pi 2 consumes ~4W per hour. Let's say 100W per day. Consumer electricity in the UK costs ~£0.10/KW, so a working Pi 2 would cost me around a penny a day to run. Do you think I'm made of money? I demand better.

Plus those cigarette packet sized cases completely dominate the room.


I have 2 of them and love them. One is set up as a Kodi media streamer and the other one is coupled to a powered usb hub and HDDs as a Smaba server. The last one I bought on sale for $19. I'll probably buy more just to play with for other projects.
 
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It would be great if there was a way we could get all the hardware on an Intel NUC PC working properly under OS X. Hackintoshing is often just too problematic usually, but I do have an old Dell Vostro A90 netbook that runs Snow Leopard perfectly.
 
Do you guys not think it may be better value buying a used 2014 rMBP 15? I mean they have quad core CPUs and dedicated GPUs and there are some bargains to be had at the moment.

The added benefit is that they're fairly portable (definitely a lot more portable than the Mac Mini).
 
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Do you guys not think it may be better value buying a used 2014 rMBP 15? I mean they have quad core CPUs and dedicated GPUs and there are some bargains to be had at the moment.

The added benefit is that they're fairly portable (definitely a lot more portable than the Mac Mini).

Yeah obviously, but it doesn't fit on your desk quite as nicely as a Mac mini. If it will start up without the internal LCD attached I suppose you could remove it and mount the base under your desk. lol
 
Yeah obviously, but it doesn't fit on your desk quite as nicely as a Mac mini. If it will start up without the internal LCD attached I suppose you could remove it and mount the base under your desk. lol

Yeah that's the only thing. It does offer a lot more value for money though. I'm just now wondering where I'll place it on my desk, as I've just managed to save up enough for 2 x Dell U2515H monitors, and they are practically gonna take up the whole desk.

Also, can I turn on the MacBook Pro whilst the lid is closed?
 
I don't think so, but you could just leave it on and put it to sleep when you're not using it.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201834
[doublepost=1454703381][/doublepost]I just read though that it's not advisable to run a Macbook Pro with the lid closed because the heat build up could ruin the logic board. This could be especially true for models with sensitive Nvidia GPUs. So if you were able to remove the lid completely, assuming it still worked connected to an external display, that would be ideal.

iFixit guide: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBoo...y+Mid+2014+Display+Assembly+Replacement/27657

[doublepost=1454703710][/doublepost]Okay, so yeah. Apparently a Macbook will still work with the display completely removed. Pretty cool!

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4813305?tstart=0

http://osxdaily.com/2010/12/21/broken-macbook-pro-screen-turn-it-into-a-desktop-mac/
 
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I don't think so, but you could just leave it on and put it to sleep when you're not using it.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201834
[doublepost=1454703381][/doublepost]I just read though that it's not advisable to run a Macbook Pro with the lid closed because the heat build up could ruin the logic board. This could be especially true for models with sensitive Nvidia GPUs. So if you were able to remove the lid completely, assuming it still worked connected to an external display, that would be ideal.

iFixit guide: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBoo...y+Mid+2014+Display+Assembly+Replacement/27657

[doublepost=1454703710][/doublepost]Okay, so yeah. Apparently a Macbook will still work with the display completely removed. Pretty cool!

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4813305?tstart=0

http://osxdaily.com/2010/12/21/broken-macbook-pro-screen-turn-it-into-a-desktop-mac/

Haha, no way am I removing the display.

I guess ill either sell a kidney for a Mac Pro (or wait till I get a good job) and settle for a 2014 i7 Mac Mini till then.
 
No desire for either. I'd want the disk/RAM expandability of the 2012 and earlier models and the return of a quad-core option.

Considering that it's currently possible to put 4TB of storage into the current (2012) Unibody form factor, you'd think it would be worth reconsidering the "Mac Mini Server" concept. With 4TB or more of spinning storage plus a M.2 Stick for OS & Fusion duties, and not running MS SpyWareOS 10, I think a lot of companies would eat it up. I work for a Fortune 50 and we have a bunch of 2012 minis used as local servers, build machines, etc
 
Considering that it's currently possible to put 4TB of storage into the current (2012) Unibody form factor, you'd think it would be worth reconsidering the "Mac Mini Server" concept...

I bought a Mac mini with Snow Leopard Server back when they first came out. Considering the price of the server software back then it was a real bargain -- for the cost of a base mini and the software you got the second drive, upgraded RAM and processor. However the economics changed over the years to the point where buying the server version saved nothing. I replaced that 2009 mini (which is still running, btw) with a 2012 quad-core with a single drive. I can't get enough disk capacity in the box anyway so might as well have everything but the system on external drives. I don't seem to be hammering the CPU ever so even a 2014 would still work fine.

Also keep in mind that Mac mini "server" has never been a serious server system. It's lacking in redundancy, and has features that make no sense (bluetooth, wifi, speaker, IR).

The server software itself has been dumbed down over the years. It's been great for home use but I can see how it could be frustrating for a business. They need to really bullet-proof it to make any sort of inroads to the small business server market.
 
I bought a Mac mini with Snow Leopard Server back when they first came out. Considering the price of the server software back then it was a real bargain -- for the cost of a base mini and the software you got the second drive, upgraded RAM and processor. However the economics changed over the years to the point where buying the server version saved nothing. I replaced that 2009 mini (which is still running, btw) with a 2012 quad-core with a single drive. I can't get enough disk capacity in the box anyway so might as well have everything but the system on external drives. I don't seem to be hammering the CPU ever so even a 2014 would still work fine.

Also keep in mind that Mac mini "server" has never been a serious server system. It's lacking in redundancy, and has features that make no sense (bluetooth, wifi, speaker, IR).

The server software itself has been dumbed down over the years. It's been great for home use but I can see how it could be frustrating for a business. They need to really bullet-proof it to make any sort of inroads to the small business server market.

Like bringing back XServe? Keep in mind that the MacMini servers were meant for home and small offices in which there might be a dozen or so machines.
 
Like bringing back XServe? Keep in mind that the MacMini servers were meant for home and small offices in which there might be a dozen or so machines.
When they dropped the Xserve, and got rid of the real server OS, that meant they were no longer serious.
 
When they dropped the Xserve, and got rid of the real server OS, that meant they were no longer serious.

I completely agree. However, the lack of serious computing extends beyond Xserve/MacMini Server/OS X Server. The entire Mac line up is neglected save the iMac 5k.

Apple is no longer a computer company with accessories that extend the computing platform. Apple is now a phone and cloud based content company with other hardware as a support or extension of that ecosystem. The Mac line-up is currently a platform to extend the usability of a phone centric ecosystem. Thus, they do not need great computers, just ones good enough for that model.
 
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There will never be another Mac mini like the late 2012. If there is a new one it will have to have Quad-Core and upgradable ram, which I know will not happen based on the available CPU's from Intel. I have know doubt that if it is announced it will be another monumental disappointment.
 
Hey guys I own an iMac (early 09) so I'm going on 7 years with this thing. It's starting to slow down, it cant handle the big programs anymore, most of the software i use has been upgraded throughout the years, with my mac being left behind. Basic web browsing or emailing is fine but videos lag a bit, my trading platform lags, the mapping is horrible on it.

I'm looking to upgrade here in 2016 with a refresh coming and have been looking at the mac minis. I want to get dual monitors thats a given but im worried the mac mini wont be able to handle the things imac use to handle but cant anymore. I just want my trading platform to run smoothly. I dont want to buy the macpro and I dont really want another imac bc i want 2 screens, that look the same and have the same picture. Right now my second screen is terrible.

What are your thoughts about what im expecting the mac mini to do? Also does the mac mini really come with freaking mobile processors? If so maybe they get rid of that for the next model if there is one. I've weighed the decision about getting a macbook pro and connecting 2 monitors so I can have an on the go computer. Do the macbook pros have these mobile processors too?
 
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Yes and yes on mobil. The Mini will handle 2 monitors but I have know idea how much horsepower you need. If you need a quad core like the iMac then you will need a Mac Pro if you want to stick with Apple.
 
Yes and yes on mobil. The Mini will handle 2 monitors but I have know idea how much horsepower you need. If you need a quad core like the iMac then you will need a Mac Pro if you want to stick with Apple.

Yea deff dont need a quad core imac. The core 2 duo i have now with 4gb of ram used to do the job fine but now times have changed and software has needed better systems to manage them. I'm just using an outdated machine. I may just get a macbook pro with the new skylake in them then ill be able to just attach 2 monitors to it and be able to take it with me on the go if i need to. Then again if the mac mini has amazing specs by some miracle then ill roll with that. I'm basically waiting for a whole refresh which is due across the board.
 
Yea deff dont need a quad core imac. The core 2 duo i have now with 4gb of ram used to do the job fine but now times have changed and software has needed better systems to manage them. I'm just using an outdated machine. I may just get a macbook pro with the new skylake in them then ill be able to just attach 2 monitors to it and be able to take it with me on the go if i need to. Then again if the mac mini has amazing specs by some miracle then ill roll with that. I'm basically waiting for a whole refresh which is due across the board.

We are all waiting for the updates and the MacBook Pro will make a nice machine for your needs. The Mac Mini though uses the same processors as the 13" Macbook Pro with the same capabilities so it is something to keep in mind. You can always get one to try out for 14 day return policy by Apple.
 
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