I agree. If this one tests out quiet and at least reasonably cool then I may get one for myself. I am looking forward to seeing what type of options are available in the BIOS re fan control, throttling options, etc.
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I agree. If this one tests out quiet and at least reasonably cool then I may get one for myself. I am looking forward to seeing what type of options are available in the BIOS re fan control, throttling options, etc.
Could be. How well does it run OS X?
LOL! I am 64 years old so I do not have enough time left to install OSX and see how well it works as a hackintosh
LOL! I am 64 years old so I do not have enough time left to install OSX and see how well it works as a hackintosh
I'm 69 years old. I can wait, no rush!
Could be. How well does it run OS X?
The real new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming, and will run OS x 10.12 for sure…… with no assembly required!
I would suppose someone will try to hackintosh it and maybe partially successful but I doubt the wifi card will be supported only because past NUC have had to had the card replaced with an Apple compatible card and the new NUC is soldered. May be able to use a USB wifi adapter for workaround but it's one of those things that require tweaking and fiddling and not worth the trouble. You're just better off with Linux at that point. Windows 10/Linux dual boot would be my choice for this machine.
If anyone will be capable it will probably be tonymacx86.
If OS X is what you want ...use a Mac.
If anyone will be capable it will probably be tonymacx86.
If OS X is what you want ...use a Mac.
I was going for a little irony - when will I learn not to do that? Looks like never. The Skull Canyon NUC is not the new Mac Mini because it doesn't run Mac OS, and of course, it's also not a Mac.
I've been using my Skull Canyon for about 10 days now (got it on release day), and has been on 24/7 ever since. Fans only audible when gaming. It's absolutely rock solid.
Happy to field questions!
Happy to field questions!
I am in my early 50s, and no stranger to building electronic/comp stuff from scratch, including making my own circuit boards and writing processor instruction sets. But that was a long time ago, and life is getting too short. I am not spending time and energy on Hackintoshing, with endless tweaking every time Apple update/upgrade OS X.
It is either OS X on official Apple hardware, or Linux on a custom linux box. That is as far as it goes for me nowadays.
It is either OS X on official Apple hardware, or Linux on a custom linux box. That is as far as it goes for me nowadays.
For those interested.....Anandtech NUC Skull Canyon review.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10343/the-intel-skull-canyon-nuc6i7kyk-minipc-review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10343/the-intel-skull-canyon-nuc6i7kyk-minipc-review
The thing that bothers me is that at 100% CPU load the CPU temp reaches upper limit of processor threshhold of 100C but levels out to around 90C which is what my Mini runs at for HandBrake. The noise level is 59DB and I don't want to listen to that for2-4 Hours during a BlueRay HandBrake.
I'm wondering if this was a design issue for Intel, because it doesn't make any sense to me:
The CPU PCIe lanes are just sitting there doing nothing.
I'm wondering if this was a design issue for Intel, because it doesn't make any sense to me:
The CPU PCIe lanes are just sitting there doing nothing.
The only reason I can think of is since TB generates heat maybe it would create problems.
I think they should have made the case larger with maybe a liquid cooling system to lower heat and noise. The CPU was not throttling back so that was very good. If you were playing games the noise would probably not be an issue because of all the background sound but if you were doing CPU intensive task in a quiet area you would definitely notice the noise.
For example most new dishwashers run at 55DB and if you were sitting next to it it would be annoying but if you're in another room it would be acceptable. I just bought a new one and I paid an extra $100 for a 50DB dishwasher so I wouldn't have to throw something at it. Seems like the older I get the less tolerance I have .
Maybe dishwashers will be Apple's next market when they're done with the car.
They could always copy Samsung. lol Put an iPad Pro on the front.
Wait a minute.....strike copy and make that reinvent........
Roger that. Noise pollution is a thing. My dishwasher is 47db and I thank God because I do not have to leave the house when I turn it on. I heavily researched before purchase.
I'm down for the "who has the quietest dishwasher" forum. Right now, mine is horribly loud. I'm going for 42 dba in the new one.
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Oh, or maybe I can just drown out the one I have with the new Mac Mini. I hope not.
Excessive noise is pretty much a no-no for an Apple product right there, and I will agree wholeheartedly with Crosscreek's evaluation. If Apple decide to pack something like that into the existing Mac Mini case, which was designed to dissipate 45w way back when it housed the 2012 Ivy Bridge Quad which people enthuse about here, then that would have been great.
But if it's going to cause heat or noise problems going forward I'd rather they either innovate the case Mac Pro style too (unlikely) or go for the quieter profile with a 2.9GHz i5-6267U which is a 28w part seemingly destined for a 13" Retina Macbook Pro with a BTO 3.3GHz i7-6567U upgrade. Both parts come with Iris Graphics 550 which might be good enough as it comes with 64Mb eDRAM although obviously it won't perform as well as the Iris Pro 580 in the Skull Canyon NUC but at least the higher frequency dual cores will benefit some casual use cases.
If the 2016 Mac Mini is going to continue to ship with soldered RAM and SSD then obviously people will have to make their own minds up if and when such a product arrives but something which isn't going to compete with iMacs on artificial benchmarks must be a more likely update and could even appear sooner rather than later depending on what happens with the Macbook Pro updates. The Macbook Pro has't been updated in over a year in some cases and neither has the Macbook Air.
Looks great for geeks into gaming, those into mucking around with computers who are after a bit of grunt, and braggers wanting the hottest mini computer around.
Folks who just want a relatively hassle free way of doing things, might like to try OS X on a less powerful, and less expensive Mac Mini. If you can wait a bit, a new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming. There may, or may not be, a match for the Skull Canyon in the range.
My dishwasher is 0db unless Mrs AFB is talking
I hardly ever hear the fans on my iMac. And that works for me. But I could live with a little fan noise for improved performance.