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Because people think that a new Mini could possibly be announced. And the churning makes people think Apple is clearing stock of the current Mini (disguised as refurbs to justify a slight discount) and that they are selling like hotcakes to get people to buy them in a knee-jerk "hurry up, get em while they last!" reaction.

I don't know. But that was my twisted logic and I'm sure some other people may think along the same lines. I'm not a special unique snowflake.
[doublepost=1466205081][/doublepost]Anyway I am in pain here.

All 2014 and 2015 I was sick of my underpowered late-2009 27" iMac and was hoping for a more powerful one that matched current PC gaming hardware. After two years of waiting I gave up and in Oct. of 2015 I bought a kick-ass Windows 10 rig with two BIG monitors.

Now that 27" iMac (3 monitors) was blocking my sunlight so I had to sell it. But I still needed OS X since I had a pretty good investment in OS X apps required for game development and creation of art assets - I develop games for iOS and OSX. So with the money I got for the iMac ($400) I bought a used 2011 Mac Mini which I connected to one of the two monitors. I had a perfect setup for games and game development: my KickAss Windows 10 rig was dedicated for playing games and developing with Unity3D/Visual Studio, then on the Mini I could do email, build the Xcode projects that Unity makes, and run my art programs. Then a few weeks after the Mini's 1-month warranty expired, it died. To fix it would have cost as much as I paid for it. I replaced the power supply. That didn't help so it would have been a $400 mother board. No fu*kin' way! So to save my apps I took out the HD and junked the Mini.

So I've been on hold since late January and my game development has come to a stop while waiting for that new updated mini. (I can stop because I'm an retired hobbiest developer). I was really hoping for an updated Mini at WWDC. I thought if it wasn't what I needed I could hurry up and before they completely disappeared, buy a current generation Mini (or a 2014 refurb) at an even lower price before. Well that didn't happen and I just cannot wait any longer. I can't wait till Sep. or Oct. to see what happens.

I'm about to pull the plug and buy a new 2.6Ghz Mini. And I just fu*king know that the minute I do, that NEW and BETTER updated Mini will be announced.

What would you do? Please help me get rid of the pain. (I considered a hackintosh but at 67 years of age I don't need the irritation that is part of that experience.)

I'd go the hackintosh route if I were you. You only need it to hold you over for (probably) another 4 or 5 months until new ones are announced. And being you're a retired hobbiest, seems like you've got the time?
 
I have an installer USB with El Capitan (or Mavericks) on it. Problem is it is only 8GB and all the guides here say I need a 16GB. But I can easily get one and copy the installer file to it.

Yes you can. Just make sure that when you format the USB drive that it's bootable for OS X. Just follow the instructions at Tonymac.
 
Yes you can. Just make sure that when you format the USB drive that it's bootable for OS X. Just follow the instructions at Tonymac.
Thanks. I will. The only thing is, even with a separate SSD running OS X, I don't want to alter my default Windows 10 boot disk (or Windows 10 OS) in any way.
 
Thanks. I will. The only thing is, even with a separate SSD running OS X, I don't want to alter my default Windows 10 boot disk (or Windows 10 OS) in any way.

I thought the same thing st first but I never booted windows since I hackintoshed. Now i am considering formatting my windows drive completely because I am so happy with the osx install. It is reliable and fast.

Now I am not sure if a better mini will ever be available to persuade me to buy it.
 
I thought the same thing st first but I never booted windows since I hackintoshed. Now i am considering formatting my windows drive completely because I am so happy with the osx install. It is reliable and fast.

Now I am not sure if a better mini will ever be available to persuade me to buy it.

That's a no-go for me as I have a bunch of Windows-only games, and I run Visual Studio as my Unity editor.
 
Thanks. I will. The only thing is, even with a separate SSD running OS X, I don't want to alter my default Windows 10 boot disk (or Windows 10 OS) in any way.

No, it will do nothing to your original Windows drive or OS. Just make sure you pick the correct drive to format for OS X:)
 
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If there is going to be a Skylake (or future) Mac Mini then i would guess there is likely to be a redesign and there will be a re-organisation of the number of ports at the back. Potentially there could be only USB-C ports which are also Thunderbolt 3 if this is the case then I would imagine the Mac Mini will be a little bit smaller. How many USB-C ports would there be considering people would bring their own keyboards and mice.

They really should make the new Mini with a SSD. If the base rMBP has 128GB SSD then surely the Mac Mini could have the same. It would be utterly embarrassing if Apple put a spinning HDD in a newly released Mac Mini in 2016.
 
It would be utterly embarrassing if Apple put a spinning HDD in a newly released Mac Mini in 2016.

Based on the macOS announcements of old files offloading to the cloud, and a new file system, it is possible Apple is getting ready to abandon spinners and fusion in favor of onlying going to SSDs.

SSDs have drastically reduced in price. If you can get a top end 1 TB ssd for under 160, the spinners now occupy the niche that tape drive a did 20 years ago.

Building a file system and offloading old data to a cloud automatically suggests little percieved purpose in a large capacity local storage for any outside of professional photographers/videographers, etc.
 
It would be utterly embarrassing if Apple put a spinning HDD in a newly released Mac Mini in 2016.

Honestly, what I find utterly embarrassing is that with Apple, you aren't allowed to make such choices yourself. In the PC world, I can easily open up my desktop computer, add or remove components as I like, and continue on with life. In the Mac world, I'm taking my machine's life in my hands every time I try to access the interior, and there's really no room to add much of anything anyway. More and more, Apple makes the choices about what components your machine has, not you...
 
If there is going to be a Skylake (or future) Mac Mini ...

Actually Tim Cook spilled the beans a while back when he said he "wanted to go deep" meaning replacing the Intel chips with Apple chips. My guess is such a mini made in the USA will debut with the delivery of OS Sierra in the later part of 2016. It make sense to introduce new hardware when the OS undergoes a major internal change. And since the machine will be made in the USA there is every reason to bring up the new production line to build a machine with new outer skin. In order to justify the cost of building here, they will want to simplify the internals as much as possible. Everything will be soldered onto the board and maybe a fan will be unnecessary.
 
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Well, I broke down and bought a "new" outdated, overpriced Mini. And after the episode I had with that used Mini I bought (500 up in smoke", I got the 3 year Apple Care too. This is the worst I ever felt about buying something new. But screw a hackintosh and the irritation that comes along with them. I'm too old (67) and grumpy for that. And you know your are old when you weigh the extra cost of a 3-year warranty against if you will live long enough to get your money's worth?
 
Well, I broke down and bought a "new" outdated, overpriced Mini. And after the episode I had with that used Mini I bought (500 up in smoke", I got the 3 year Apple Care too. This is the worst I ever felt about buying something new. But screw a hackintosh and the irritation that comes along with them. I'm too old (67) and grumpy for that. And you know your are old when you weigh the extra cost of a 3-year warranty against if you will live long enough to get your money's worth?

At least you will know it will work every day and that the new Mac Mini is almost "always" certainly coming.
 
Tiberious2000 states............Based on the macOS announcements of old files offloading to the cloud, and a new file system, it is possible Apple is getting ready to abandon spinners and fusion in favor of onlying going to SSDs.

SSDs have drastically reduced in price. If you can get a top end 1 TB ssd for under 160, the spinners now occupy the niche that tape drive a did 20 years ago.

Building a file system and offloading old data to a cloud automatically suggests little percieved purpose in a large capacity local storage for any outside of professional photographers/videographers, etc.



You make an assumption that everyone is comfortable using cloud storage for what can be sensitive files or files that contain personal data. I'm afraid the only thing in my personal cloud is 'rain' :rolleyes:

There has been any number of companies over the years offering cloud storage (sometimes free) that have either ceased trading, been the subject of a takeover, or suddenly announce changes to their T&Cs whereby 'free' is no longer free. This can lead to all sorts of issues of ownership etc.

I prefer to take responsibility for my own data, not entrust it to some faceless organisation.
 
If there is going to be a Skylake (or future) Mac Mini then i would guess there is likely to be a redesign and there will be a re-organisation of the number of ports at the back. Potentially there could be only USB-C ports which are also Thunderbolt 3 if this is the case then I would imagine the Mac Mini will be a little bit smaller. How many USB-C ports would there be considering people would bring their own keyboards and mice.

They really should make the new Mini with a SSD. If the base rMBP has 128GB SSD then surely the Mac Mini could have the same. It would be utterly embarrassing if Apple put a spinning HDD in a newly released Mac Mini in 2016.

The reason rMBPs don't have spinning HDDs is cause they don't have room. If they could they would have put them in . The strategy is to offer the spinning Hdd as entry, and giving you options to upgrade. This allows you to offer a base model an an attractive price and get money money out of customers that realise Hdd is slow. This strategy will continue on the Mac mini while there is space for a spinning Hdd . I suspect the next mini might be the size of the Apple TV though, selling point being compactness and not performance.
 
Tiberious2000 states............Based on the macOS announcements of old files offloading to the cloud, and a new file system, it is possible Apple is getting ready to abandon spinners and fusion in favor of onlying going to SSDs.

SSDs have drastically reduced in price. If you can get a top end 1 TB ssd for under 160, the spinners now occupy the niche that tape drive a did 20 years ago.

Building a file system and offloading old data to a cloud automatically suggests little percieved purpose in a large capacity local storage for any outside of professional photographers/videographers, etc.



You make an assumption that everyone is comfortable using cloud storage for what can be sensitive files or files that contain personal data. I'm afraid the only thing in my personal cloud is 'rain' :rolleyes:

There has been any number of companies over the years offering cloud storage (sometimes free) that have either ceased trading, been the subject of a takeover, or suddenly announce changes to their T&Cs whereby 'free' is no longer free. This can lead to all sorts of issues of ownership etc.

I prefer to take responsibility for my own data, not entrust it to some faceless organisation.

I assume nothing about everyone's storage preference. I made a prediction based on WWDC announcements around macOS Sierra and the changing storage market and made a statement about Apple's perception of storage. Please re-read the post and you will see that.

However, I too, prefer local control over my data for privacy and personal control. A friend has often referred to the the cloud (from any provider) as, "The Complete Loss Of User Data." As someone who tried to use iTunes Match, I can verify that users need to manage their local content. I would have lost files if I had not made a local back-up.
 
Well, I broke down and bought a "new" outdated, overpriced Mini. And after the episode I had with that used Mini I bought (500 up in smoke", I got the 3 year Apple Care too. This is the worst I ever felt about buying something new. But screw a hackintosh and the irritation that comes along with them. I'm too old (67) and grumpy for that. And you know your are old when you weigh the extra cost of a 3-year warranty against if you will live long enough to get your money's worth?

I am curious to know which unit you bought. I was thinking of the high-end stock model with upgrades to the i7 cpu, to 16GB, and to the 2TB fusion drive. Total is $1499.
 
Well, I broke down and bought a "new" outdated, overpriced Mini. And after the episode I had with that used Mini I bought (500 up in smoke", I got the 3 year Apple Care too. This is the worst I ever felt about buying something new. But screw a hackintosh and the irritation that comes along with them. I'm too old (67) and grumpy for that. And you know your are old when you weigh the extra cost of a 3-year warranty against if you will live long enough to get your money's worth?

I'm not sure about the wisdom of your decision TBH. You have buyers remorse from the outset which is never good. I have found throughout life (I too am of more mature years) that if something doesn't sit well with you at the outset then if never completely sits right period.

An OS from whatever source is simply a launch vehicle so I cannot be chewed whether it's OS X (cough macOS) Windows or Linux. I am quite taken with the NUC - (a machine Apple wish they had made) so if I'm still in that frame of mind when I come to change the iMac then that's what I will go for.

A computer is after all simply a tool for doing a job, no sentimentality from me I'm afraid.
 
Tiberious2000 states............Based on the macOS announcements of old files offloading to the cloud, and a new file system, it is possible Apple is getting ready to abandon spinners and fusion in favor of onlying going to SSDs.

SSDs have drastically reduced in price. If you can get a top end 1 TB ssd for under 160, the spinners now occupy the niche that tape drive a did 20 years ago.

Building a file system and offloading old data to a cloud automatically suggests little percieved purpose in a large capacity local storage for any outside of professional photographers/videographers, etc.



You make an assumption that everyone is comfortable using cloud storage for what can be sensitive files or files that contain personal data. I'm afraid the only thing in my personal cloud is 'rain' :rolleyes:

There has been any number of companies over the years offering cloud storage (sometimes free) that have either ceased trading, been the subject of a takeover, or suddenly announce changes to their T&Cs whereby 'free' is no longer free. This can lead to all sorts of issues of ownership etc.

I prefer to take responsibility for my own data, not entrust it to some faceless organisation.

I completely agree. Thanks for saying it out loud. Nothing makes me happier than an image of my drive on an external drive :) That said, I use Carbonite as well.
 
Apple wants you to off load to the cloud so they can charge you fees.

That's all Apple wants anymore is more user fees.

Apple is gearing up for a service business, with regular, stable income based on subscriptions.

I can't knock them for doing it, but it isn't in our favor unfortunately. They're trying to get more revenue and keep up growth at a time when computers/tablets/phones are plateauing in terms of hardware specifications and software demands.

Hence things like seriously underspeccing their hardware and the strictly controlled software and update scheme.
 
A computer is after all simply a tool for doing a job, no sentimentality from me I'm afraid.

With the exception of one program, I am not locked into the Apple ecology, and even that program has equivalent substitutes in other platforms. Worst case is that I would have to do a bunch of file translation and cleaning up.

I would prefer to stay in Apple, possibly via Hackintosh. But can survive switching to straight Linux if needed.

Actually, will most probably end up with two separate machines and systems. A dedicated Linux box for video processing, and a modest Apple laptop (plus external 27-30" screen) for everything else.
 
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