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The evidence suggests it'll be this October.
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Installing El Cap will quickly change your "can wait" to "can't wait" status ;-)
I have been through the Beta process and it can get ugly during updates. I have Siera running in Parallels 11 and it seem to be pretty stable. The next update may kill it. Rolling the Dice. ;)
 
3 of the last 5 Minis were released in Oct. That's our best hope because if it ain't here by October then it ain't here yet.

Ah. I think "hope" and "evidence" are slightly different concepts. ;)

Personally, I'm hoping for a radically different offering from Apple; an xMac, or perhaps a license to run OS X on non-Apple hardware. But right now, there's no hard evidence that Apple is preparing a new Mini offering, let alone that they even care about the Mini any more. :(
 
Ah. I think "hope" and "evidence" are slightly different concepts. ;)

Personally, I'm hoping for a radically different offering from Apple; an xMac, or perhaps a license to run OS X on non-Apple hardware. But right now, there's no hard evidence that Apple is preparing a new Mini offering, let alone that they even care about the Mini any more. :(

WARNING: Speculation ahead, not rumor.

Before the switch to Intel chips, Apple relied on RISC processors developed by a consortium including Motorola and IBM. There were troubles getting the G4 going and even more significant troubles with the G5 that left them with a period that had G5 desktops and G4 laptops and trouble with each. Intel was the only partnership that made sense: they offered chips and economy of scale. However, Intel is now proving unreliable: they have had massive delays in chip production, Thunderbolt never took off the way it was hoped to, and now USB 3.1 is having problems (due to third parties).

Apple also signed some deal with AMD which is believed to be about the Polaris GPU- but what if it is Apple holding on the Mini, Pro, MacBook Pro, (and let's add the almost year old iMac)... Holding for AMD Zen chips in response to Intel's issues?
 
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My early 2009 Mac Mini (running Mountain Lion) isn't. I can wait…. a couple or three years; maybe another generation or two of OS X and Mac Mini before then.
Installing El Cap will quickly change your "can wait" to "can't wait" status ;-)

Which is one reason why I won't be installing El Cap. It and recent models of the Mac Mini would bring no significant benefit to my one computer, no iDevice household.


You keep repeating the mantra of the new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming but I have yet to see you produce any evidence to support your continued assertion.

Do you realise that this is MacRumours, not MacFacts?

Cynics have been predicting its demise for six or seven years now, yet new Mac Minis continue to come, albeit at longer intervals now than in the past…… And they will almost certainly continue to do so. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
 
WARNING: Speculation ahead, not rumor.

Before the switch to Intel chips, Apple relied on RISC processors developed by a consortium including Motorola and IBM. There were troubles getting the G4 going and even more significant troubles with the G5 that left them with a period that had G5 desktops and G4 laptops and trouble with each. Intel was the only partnership that made sense: they offered chips and economy of scale. However, Intel is now proving unreliable: they have had massive delays in chip production, Thunderbolt never took off the way it was hoped to, and now USB 3.1 is having problems (due to third parties).

Apple also signed some deal with AMD which is believed to be about the Polaris GPU- but what if it is Apple holding on the Mini, Pro, MacBook Pro, (and let's add the almost year old iMac)... Holding for AMD Zen chips in response to Intel's issues?

Dang, that is a heck of a question. Hmmmm, makes me think. That would certainly explain ALOT!
 
(and let's add the almost year old iMac)

Cough! I think that should be the 6 year old iMac as let's be brutal for a change, apart from some cosmetic changes i.e. thinning out the iMac (a totally needless exercise for a desktop) and the odd speed bump here and there, plus screen upgrade it's basically the same iMac that came out in 2010.

The only real innovation taking place at Apple these days is how to keep growing their bank balance. I think they no longer see themselves as a computer manufacturer but more a technology company.
 
You really do have to wonder just how much longer they can get away with it before the little boy shouts 'look the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes'.

It's happening right now. Apple's moment in the Sun is coming to a close. The Apple brand is losing it's luster.
 
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Cough! I think that should be the 6 year old iMac as let's be brutal for a change, apart from some cosmetic changes i.e. thinning out the iMac (a totally needless exercise for a desktop) and the odd speed bump here and there, plus screen upgrade it's basically the same iMac that came out in 2010.

The only real innovation taking place at Apple these days is how to keep growing their bank balance. I think they no longer see themselves as a computer manufacturer but more a technology company.

Yeah... I still miss the iMac G4. It had a LCD with the computer built into the base. Best iMac design in the 18 years of iMac.
 
So is anyone brave/stupid enough to predict when/if Apple will finally announce some new hardware for 2016 in particular the Mini?

It's Tuesday the 19th July tomorrow and there has been posts for umpteen weeks now from optimistic Apple owners stating this or that Tuesday will be the day new Mini's will be announced. ;)

It's clear now that Apple is skipping Broadwell and going straight to Skylake for the Mac mini. We're just waiting for Kaby Lake so that Apple can release a mini that is one generation behind at launch. Check Intel's roadmaps for Kaby Lake, there is the answer to when there will be a Skylake mini.
 
Cough! I think that should be the 6 year old iMac as let's be brutal for a change, apart from some cosmetic changes i.e. thinning out the iMac (a totally needless exercise for a desktop) and the odd speed bump here and there, plus screen upgrade it's basically the same iMac that came out in 2010.

No reason for any computer, even an all-in-one desktop, to be any heavier than it absolutely needs to be. The old iMacs were over 20 pounds... and that was for the 21.5 model. The 27 was a behemoth.
 
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No reason for any computer, even an all-in-one desktop, to be any heavier than it absolutely needs to be. The old iMacs were over 20 pounds... and that was for the 21.5 model. The 27 was a behemoth.

Making it unnecessarily thinner than it needed to be compromised functionality as the space available determines the components that can be used e.g. heat dissipation to name but one issue. The best desktops are still towers for that very reason. Apple are only interested in design aesthetics and as such are more than willing to trade off performance to achieve their goal.
 
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It's clear now that Apple is skipping Broadwell and going straight to Skylake for the Mac mini.

Ok, I gotta ask again, evidence? What is clear is that Apple is skipping updates for the Mini. What is not clear is why -- I agree that it looks like they are skipping Broadwell. I can't tell yet whether or not they are also skipping Skylake. At the rate they're going, they could skip any number of other future incarnations of Intel's CPUs as well...
 
I still think a late 2016 release date makes sense for a new Mac mini.

That would put it on a two-year schedule and allow for new I/O (Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C).

Fingers crossed ;)
 
Ok, I gotta ask again, evidence? What is clear is that Apple is skipping updates for the Mini. What is not clear is why -- I agree that it looks like they are skipping Broadwell. I can't tell yet whether or not they are also skipping Skylake. At the rate they're going, they could skip any number of other future incarnations of Intel's CPUs as well...

The evidence is in Apple's track record. The 2013 Mac mini was released in 2014 with Haswell around the time of the launch of Broadwell U. It's likely that a 2015 Mac mini will be released in 2016 with a processor one generation behind.

Keep in mind that evidence is a weaker concept than proof. When a proof directly gives the final verdict on a question, evidence merely points in the general direction of the truth.
 
The evidence is in Apple's track record. The 2013 Mac mini was released in 2014 with Haswell around the time of the launch of Broadwell U. It's likely that a 2015 Mac mini will be released in 2016 with a processor one generation behind.

Keep in mind that evidence is a weaker concept than proof. When a proof directly gives the final verdict on a question, evidence merely points in the general direction of the truth.

You are absolutely right. Usually a generation behind on processors.
 
So Intel has just announced they've begun shipping Kaby Lake. But Macrumors says Macbook Pros would only include them in 2017...what about Mac Mini?
 
So Intel has just announced they've begun shipping Kaby Lake. But Macrumors says Macbook Pros would only include them in 2017...what about Mac Mini?

Broadwell or skip a year for refresh and maybe Skylake next year. You never can tell with Apple. They could just leave the Mini to rot on the vine.
 
Keep in mind that evidence is a weaker concept than proof. When a proof directly gives the final verdict on a question, evidence merely points in the general direction of the truth.

Ah, well, when I think of the term "evidence", I'm thinking more about a specific piece of data rather than a general trend. For example, a photo of a prototype, or some leaked factory production numbers.

If we're just talking trends, we could also note that Apple has been trending towards smaller, greener, more fashionable PCs, and eschewing raw performance. As such, it may be that Apple has no interest at all in more powerful Intel CPUs, and is preparing to use the Mini as the first vehicle to bring their own SoC chips (A9X or whatever) to the desktop.
 
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