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I was saying in another thread I thought the 2011 iMac 21.5" was the pinnacle of that model. I don't like successors as they're hard to get into for SSD upgrades.

2012 Minis were the best also. More evidence it all went downhill post-Steve? It does make me sad.


Yep new leadership has gotten old and they simply don't care about the desktop division.

The best mac mini's were the quad core 2011 and 2012 models.

The 2014 update was a money grab.

Here we are in 2016 and zip nothing.
 
Got my Hack running. Haven't overclocked yet and waiting for Sierra to determine whether to get Nvidia 1060 or AMD RX480.

I have it set up for triple boot of OS X, Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.04.

Built it for less than $800 with discounts.

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4 GHz i7
3200 MHz DDR4
HD Graphics 530

Looks at my 2012 Mini...

:(

Looks at 2014 Mini...

:(:(

Compares prices of Minis with...

4 GHz i7
16GB of 3200 MHz DDR4
HD Graphics 530

:(:(:(
 
My iMac will be on eBay in a few days. Dell Optiplex i7 with real video card SFF will be here tomorrow. Along with a Dell 4K monitor. Gotta have more upgrade-ability and I will put a Samsung Pro 950 M.2 PCIe NVM 512GB SSD in before I boot it. Will sell the 5009GB 3.5 inch spinner immediately on eBay to offset costs a bit.

I like to have more options than just one company. Too dependent on their time frame and it sucks having no idea which direction they (Apple) will go with their new mini, and desktops in general.

I am one of those rare folk who has read very nearly every single post in this thread. Good thing I like Windows 10 just fine. I am excited to run it natively, not thru Parallels.

Simply put, it is time for me to move on with my life. Godspeed to all. It has been a whole bunch of fun with some great people. Thank you all for one heck of a thread and conversation.
 
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My iMac will be on eBay in a few days. Dell Optiplex i7 with real video card SFF will be here tomorrow. Along with a Dell 4K monitor. Gotta have more upgrade-ability and I will put a Samsung Pro 950 M.2 PCIe NVM 512GB SSD in before I boot it. Will sell the 5009GB 3.5 inch spinner immediately on eBay to offset costs a bit.

I like to have more options than just one company. Too dependent on their time frame and it sucks having no idea which direction they (Apple) will go with their new mini, and desktops in general.

I am one of those rare folk who has read very nearly every single post in this thread. Good thing I like Windows 10 just fine. I am excited to run it natively, not thru Parallels.

Simply put, it is time for me to move on with my life. Godspeed to all. It has been a whole bunch of fun with some great people. Thank you all for one heck of a thread and conversation.

Apple can't complain when their once loyal customers do this. Windows 10 is a really great OS - I know as I have been using it myself since day one and although I still have my iMac and it's still running fine at present there will come a day when that's no longer the case.

I'm afraid if Apple continues to move down this present pathway of ignoring the computer users then it will be a very easy decision for me to build my own bespoke Windows 10 machine when the time comes.
 
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Gee, kick a room full of long suffering Mini fans when they are down, why don't you.

Our arses not raw enough from the kicking Apple have been giving us for the last few years?


Some people just got no manners. :rolleyes:
 
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Apple can't complain when their once loyal customers do this. Windows 10 is a really great OS - I know as I have been using it myself since day one and although I still have my iMac and it's still running fine at present there will come a day when that's no longer the case.

I'm afraid if Apple continues to move down this present pathway of ignoring the computer users then it will be a very easy decision for me to build my own bespoke Windows 10 machine when the time comes.

That time is almost here for me. I find Apple products are still good as they have been for a while but a lot of us can see the writing on the wall. I'm still happy with my products today but as they're showing their age and I'm ready to upgrade I find I don't like what they are offering, especially for the price they charge. Once the iPhone 7 comes out without a headphone jack and sells for $1000, it'll be time to find replacements.
 
Apple now advertising that the iPad Pro is a computer. They really are going down a different path.

Open your mind a little…… While the iPad Pro may not do it for some (including me), there are those for whom it may be all the IT they need, while for others it may be part of a system that includes several devices that integrate with a Mac. It is a system that will almost certainly continue to evolve, and the Mac Mini will almost certainly continue to do so also, albeit at a slower pace than in the past.
 
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Open your mind a little…… While the iPad Pro may not do it for some (including me), there are those for whom it may be all the IT they need, while for others it may be part of a system that includes several devices that integrate with a Mac. It is a system that will almost certainly continue to evolve, and the Mac Mini will almost certainly continue to do so also, albeit at a slower pace than in the past.

While I agree with you, you're not speaking the same language as Apple. Apple is pushing their tablets as computer replacements and as you can see by their computer lineup, it's overpriced for their offerings. That's the problem. I don't think anyone would argue that for some, an iPad is more than enough. The problem is, they are neglecting the computer. This is why people are upset; we like Apple products, we pay a premium for them and up until recently it was worth it. Now it's not.
 
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Nice fan arrangement, what would you say is the noisiest thing in your build while you don't have a Graphics card? I was wondering about a fanless PSU.

My power supply also makes no noise I can hear. System is totally silent but when I get the GPU , and the ones I:m looking at do not spin the fans until 60C, will probably produce some noise when gaming.

My case has sound proofing and is one of the reasons I went with the Fractal Design R5.

Fanless power supplies are a good thing but I didn't look into them.
 
My power supply also makes no noise I can hear. System is totally silent but when I get the GPU , and the ones I:m looking at do not spin the fans until 60C, will probably produce some noise when gaming.

My case has sound proofing and is one of the reasons I went with the Fractal Design R5.

Fanless power supplies are a good thing but I didn't look into them.

I have a similar setup and I also got a GPU that shuts off the fan at low load. When gaming it's the loudest component by far, but out of respect for my neighbors I always use headphones for gaming anyway, so I still don't hear the fans.

Like sublunar I was a bit paranoid about the PSU fan, so I got one of these that are passively cooled up to a certain threshold and then spins up the fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...m_re=evga_platinum_750-_-17-438-057-_-Product
In practice it doesn't matter since the fan in that PSU is as quiet as the case fans that came with the R5 case. But still, fans can get louder with wear, so maybe some day I will appreciate the fact that it shuts off at low load. The PSU and case are probably the parts I will still be using when everything else has been swapped out, so I could justify overspending a bit on them.

I got a semi-passive CPU cooler that fools the motherboard into thinking it is spinning even at low load when the fan is shut off. That way you can get passive CPU cooling at idle even on the dumbest motherboards. But with a competent motherboard the same can be achieved with any CPU fan.

In total this means that the only things spinning at idle are the whisper-quiet case fans in the R5. And I can only hear them if I stick my ear to the vents. So I got myself a 10m HDMI cable and now my gaming computer is doubling as that HTPC I wanted when I started hanging out in this thread.

It's really fun building a PC after having considered a Mac mini with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. The same money goes a loooong way when building something else. I was even able to get the Intel 750 SSD. I got the 400GB one so smaller than the one I considered for the mini, but much faster.
 
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Got my Hack running. Haven't overclocked yet and waiting for Sierra to determine whether to get Nvidia 1060 or AMD RX480.

I have it set up for triple boot of OS X, Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.04.

Built it for less than $800 with discounts.

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Nice! You know, the Titan X is now available. I think that's what the new mini designers were waiting for, almost certainly.
 
Nice! You know, the Titan X is now available. I think that's what the new mini designers were waiting for, almost certainly.

Thanks, really happy how it turned out. Probably get either a 1060 or the 480. Waiting to see what drivers Apple comes out with in Sierra.

Titan is out of my league and budget. lol
 
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