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I'm getting very tempted to build one of these: http://snazzylabs.com/article/skylake-mac-mini-hackintosh/

Does anyone have an even better suggestion?
Looks like an excellent project to me. But like the article says, you will tinker and spend time researching.
I thoroughly enjoyed building my hack although I do spend most of my time in Windows 10 because of gaming but my hack side works excellent.
If you go the hackintosh rout you will probably learn a lot about how macOS works and how to modify it with terminal commands as far as kext and code are concerned.
 
Looks like an excellent project to me. But like the article says, you will tinker and spend time researching.
I thoroughly enjoyed building my hack although I do spend most of my time in Windows 10 because of gaming but my hack side works excellent.
If you go the hackintosh rout you will probably learn a lot about how macOS works and how to modify it with terminal commands as far as kext and code are concerned.

Yes, it's the tinkering and researching holding me back, even though I like tinkering and researching. A friend just offered to give me his i5 2012 mini, so I may tinker with that first and see how it goes. That way I can wait for the new mac mini, which is almost certainly (maybe) coming.
 
Does anyone have an even better suggestion?

Honestly? I can't justify to myself the continued use of OS X; I think it would be better to just run Linux (or Windows) on such a box.

For me, the value of OS X is that it has the power and clean OS design of Unix, with the beautiful UI and commercial app availability that Apple can bring to the table. And, while much of this is still true today, it isn't as valuable as it used to be; Windows is finally starting to put together a decent UI experience, and commercial app availability on Linux has made enormous strides over the last decade.

Most importantly in my mind, Apple has simply been ignoring the modern PC hardware environment. There's a reason why you have to choose hardware carefully and tinker a lot when constructing a hackintosh -- because Apple simply hasn't seen the need to maintain compatibility of their OS with a broad range of hardware devices. And, a lot of that is because Apple hasn't seen fit to provide a lot of modern hardware in their own desktop offerings.

As OS X has stagnated over the years, Windows and Linux have continued to march ahead into the future. And so, you're much more likely to get the full use out of any particular piece of modern hardware using one of those two than by using OS X. :(
 
Honestly? I can't justify to myself the continued use of OS X; I think it would be better to just run Linux (or Windows) on such a box.

For me, the value of OS X is that it has the power and clean OS design of Unix, with the beautiful UI and commercial app availability that Apple can bring to the table. And, while much of this is still true today, it isn't as valuable as it used to be; Windows is finally starting to put together a decent UI experience, and commercial app availability on Linux has made enormous strides over the last decade.

Most importantly in my mind, Apple has simply been ignoring the modern PC hardware environment. There's a reason why you have to choose hardware carefully and tinker a lot when constructing a hackintosh -- because Apple simply hasn't seen the need to maintain compatibility of their OS with a broad range of hardware devices. And, a lot of that is because Apple hasn't seen fit to provide a lot of modern hardware in their own desktop offerings.

As OS X has stagnated over the years, Windows and Linux have continued to march ahead into the future. And so, you're much more likely to get the full use out of any particular piece of modern hardware using one of those two than by using OS X. :(

I understand that's how it is for you, it makes sense. But for me, running macOS is what works. I have a windows 10 gaming computer, but I only use if for gaming. For everything else, for me, it's still OS X. I switched from windows to mac in 2011, and I don't want to go back. If Apple won't provide the kind of computer I want, I will make one myself (with a lot of help from the nice people on the internet).
 
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I understand that's how it is for you, it makes sense. But for me, running macOS is what works. I have a windows 10 gaming computer, but I only use if for gaming. For everything else, for me, it's still OS X. I switched from windows to mac in 2011, and I don't want to go back. If Apple won't provide the kind of computer I want, I will make one myself (with a lot of help from the nice people on the internet).
What do you have for MB and CPU in your gamer? You could possibly try hack macOS on it if you have a spare drive laying around without messing your Windows up.
 
The CPU is an i7 4790K, and the motherboard is a Gigabyte Z97X-SLI. Graphics card is an EVGA 980 ti.

I don't see a problem with a hack on that. Only thing you would need is a USB Bluetooth adapter $5 from amazon if your using Bluetooth.

You just need to add a HD and format through USB installer that you make. See: https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/...ierra-on-any-supported-intel-based-pc.200564/
and if you PM me I can help you.

Ran your MB and CPU on tonymac site and there are many builds there with those.
Z97X-SLIhttps://www.tonymacx86.com/search/1956165/?q=Z97X-SLI&o=date

Also your GPU is supported.
 
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Oh, SSDs are great! They are much faster than spinning drives in general, completely remove the seek-time delay in specific, and are far more resilient to kinetic damage (bumps, drops, etc.).

What I've kinda gotten sick of, however, is the "Cult of the SSD" here on MacRumors. Yes, an SSD will vastly improve long-term storage performance. Activities like bootup and application loading will improve as a result. But no, it won't make everything run faster, nor will it fix bugs in your software, nor increase the resolution of your monitor, nor cure hair loss nor remove unsightly acne from your skin.

People seem to think of an SSD as some sort of true Panacea, that you can drop this one device into a machine with a crappy CPU, a crappy GPU, and a minuscule amount of RAM, and suddenly it will perform as if it were a high-end machine. An SSD can only improve on what an HD does, no more and no less.

While a SSD won't make your CPU or GPU faster, it can greatly enhance the performance of a computer.

CPU's are generally very fast and efficient already. And essentially where SSD's provide the greatest benefit is getting data to the CPU faster.

Much of the time we spend waiting on a "slow feeling" computer, is actually due to the CPU waiting for the information it needs to arrive. Once the information is in the CPU, it is processed very quickly.

In my case, I have approximately 15+ drives attached to my primary Mac. Amounting to multiple terabytes of storage. Most of which is nearly full.

In the mix, I have 2 SSD drives. One has OS X and OS X programs loaded on it. The other has Windows 10 and Windows programs loaded on it.

Frequently used data like my email programs and messages are also on the SSD.

Anything that is temporary is always stored on spinning drives. Anything that is rarely needed is stored on spinning drives.

Large project files are also stored on spinning drives. My internet downloads go to spinning drives.

My iTunes library (6 terabytes) streams to my AppleTV's from a spinning drive on a USB 3 port.

Pretty much everything goes to spinning drives, except the operating system, programs, and data that doesn't change constantly.

Using this arrangement, the "feel" of the computer's perceived performance went from slow to instant. My daily tasks are now responsive and instant instead of waiting on beach balls.

It's a balance. The SSD doesn't make the CPU faster. But the SSD does get the information to the CPU faster. Which means the computer feels faster because you spend less time waiting for the CPU to begin the process.

I was reminded how significant this is the other day when a friend brought me their newer MacBook Pro so I could help them with something. By specs, their MacBook Pro should have made my computer look like snail.

But, they had the spinning drive in there. I didn't believe them when they complained about how slow the computer was. I'm like yeah right, top CPU good specs, you're crazy.

But even freshly reinstalling OS X on a formatted hard drive made no difference.

Their computer felt like a snail. Everything was lagging. Everything I clicked on took a long time to open and display information. Even waiting for "about this Mac" to open felt like forever.

The computer can only process information as fast as its slowest component can provide it with the information.

But yes, in things like video playback, speed is less of an issue. It doesn't take much to display a video file at 30 to 60 frames per second. The information is already being delivered slow enough for our brains to visually process it. So a spinning drive is more than adequate. Our eyes and brain speed are the limiting factor when it comes to video playback. If a computer played the video as fast as possible, we would not be able to understand the video. Our brains are too slow.
 
I'm getting very tempted to build one of these: http://snazzylabs.com/article/skylake-mac-mini-hackintosh/

Does anyone have an even better suggestion?

Yes, an Asrock Deskmini 110.

The Streacom case is a mini-itx case. However it's $99 for just the case, is too small for a usable card slot (built-in video only), needs a non-standard sized cpu cooler extra, a power supply hack, and is still limited to 65W cpus (S series, no K series).

The Deskmini uses the mini-stx standard, which makes it smaller yet. It costs $140 for the case, power supply, and motherboard (barebones kit). It uses the same S series 65W processors along with the default processor fan they ship with. It's been successfully hackintoshed. (Also comes with pcie wireless and antennas.)

The Streacom case looks a lot more like a Mini, at double the volume. However the Deskmini is smaller and cheaper yet and I was able to get it working in <15 minutes of fiddling with it, getting the processor, memory, and ssd in it
 
Three years ago today there was this:
Hi,

i work in an Apple Reseller and like many of you i'm waiting for the mini 2013 refresh.

From monday the two major Apple suppliers in Italy are suddenly and completely out of stock of minis. I know that this happen from time to time, but the timing is no coincidence.

Trust me, a new mini is coming next week, or at least we have solid evidence to believe it.

The thread has seldom been off the front page since, but where is our founder now?

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Three years ago today there was this:


The thread has seldom been off the front page since, but where is our founder now?

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Men in black SUV vehicles showed up, and dragged him away to an undisclosed location.

Don't upset the Apple Mafia. The poor guy is probably chained to a table and being forced to repair 2016 MacBook Pros as part of his life sentence in the Apple detection prison.
 
I don't see a problem with a hack on that. Only thing you would need is a USB Bluetooth adapter $5 from amazon if your using Bluetooth.

You just need to add a HD and format through USB installer that you make. See: https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/...ierra-on-any-supported-intel-based-pc.200564/
and if you PM me I can help you.

Ran your MB and CPU on tonymac site and there are many builds there with those.
Z97X-SLIhttps://www.tonymacx86.com/search/1956165/?q=Z97X-SLI&o=date

Also your GPU is supported.

Thanks for checking on this. I'm torn between adding OS X to my gaming rig, or building a new one. I so sometimes use both computers at the same time, particularly with flight simulation. I think I will take a look at the 2012 mini when I get it, and see if that will be good for now. In the meantime, I'm following up on these links and thinking about it.
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Yes, an Asrock Deskmini 110.

The Streacom case is a mini-itx case. However it's $99 for just the case, is too small for a usable card slot (built-in video only), needs a non-standard sized cpu cooler extra, a power supply hack, and is still limited to 65W cpus (S series, no K series).

The Deskmini uses the mini-stx standard, which makes it smaller yet. It costs $140 for the case, power supply, and motherboard (barebones kit). It uses the same S series 65W processors along with the default processor fan they ship with. It's been successfully hackintoshed. (Also comes with pcie wireless and antennas.)

The Streacom case looks a lot more like a Mini, at double the volume. However the Deskmini is smaller and cheaper yet and I was able to get it working in <15 minutes of fiddling with it, getting the processor, memory, and ssd in it

That does look like a nice one. It's nice to have choices, Apple.
 
New GPUs have been leaked in the latest OS beta, including a Vega 10 that seems suitable for the Mac Pro.

I think we can set this as the really final last ultimate no-real-life-beyond-it threshold of our vain and pathetic hopes: If apple updates the iMac and the Mac Pro and does nothing to the Mac Mini, we'll be able to say that it is dead....





.... almost certainly.
 
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Problem is...
Apple knows that millions of people LOVE the MacMini. Whenever Apple has discontinued products with no equivalent replacement, they've been kinda lame products from day one. Like the e-Mac remember that thing?

I don't think the mini will be canned, we'll just be tortured -almost- to death by a thousand cuts (days)
 
Problem is...
Apple knows that millions of people LOVE the MacMini. Whenever Apple has discontinued products with no equivalent replacement, they've been kinda lame products from day one. Like the e-Mac remember that thing?

I don't think the mini will be canned, we'll just be tortured -almost- to death by a thousand cuts (days)


"Whenever Apple has discontinued products with no equivalent replacement, they've been kinda lame products from day one." - why does Apple Watch come to mind?
 
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I think the problem is that Apple started out as a computer company, and did a fairly middling to decent job of it. Then, it morphed into a Steve Jobs toy company -- Jobs saw the world in a very particular manner, and rather than create "standard" computing devices, he saw a world of devices that worked in his very particular manner. It wasn't that he was just creating glitzy objects of art made for people to show off; he still wanted his devices to perform certain tasks, but he wanted those tasks done his way. And he pushed and pushed and pushed until they did work his way.

Apple became a company that sold many varied devices, most of which no longer fell under the established categories of "personal computer". But the thing is, Jobs combined form and functionality in his products -- they still did things that personal computers do, just in a different way.

Without Jobs, Apple has lost the guy who saw the world in one single way. So they are now a company that sells things that don't normally fall under the established categories, but they also no longer serve the very specific purposes Jobs saw for them. The guys who understand form are ascendant, but there's really nobody left who understands function.

Unless Apple finds some way to regain balance between the two, I don't see it doing very well in the future. :(
 
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they've been kinda lame products from day one. Like the e-Mac remember that thing?

LOL, I bought one for use at work somewhere around 2002/2003. Price was good and performance was comparable to the other G4 systems I was using (had a powerbook G4 and PowerMac G4 at home). I also thought the eMac was an attractive looking machine in its day, like a big iMac but without the fruity color, and the flat 17" screen was very nice. We used this machine mostly for CAD (VectorWorks) and Photoshop.

So why do you think it was a "lame product"?
 
I think the problem is that Apple started out as a computer company, and did a fairly middling to decent job of it. Then, it morphed into a Steve Jobs toy company -- Jobs saw the world in a very particular manner, and rather than create "standard" computing devices, he saw a world of devices that worked in his very particular manner. It wasn't that he was just creating glitzy objects of art made for people to show off; he still wanted his devices to perform certain tasks, but he wanted those tasks done his way. And he pushed and pushed and pushed until they did work his way.

Apple became a company that sold many varied devices, most of which no longer fell under the established categories of "personal computer". But the thing is, Jobs combined form and functionality in his products -- they still did things that personal computers do, just in a different way.

Without Jobs, Apple has lost the guy who saw the world in one single way. So they are now a company that sells things that don't normally fall under the established categories, but they also no longer serve the very specific purposes Jobs saw for them. The guys who understand form are ascendant, but there's really nobody left who understands function.

Unless Apple finds some way to regain balance between the two, I don't see it doing very well in the future. :(


I agree with this but there's also a continuing thrust to simplify and dilute the involvement of the user on a technical level ... a "dumbing down" if you will ... like not knowing how to do calculations without a calculator (PC) - or walking to the mailbox. Look at Radio Shack and realize the new mentality is NOT to take things apart - not to seek repair but to dispose. There are fewer of (us) every year just like there are fewer Service Stations with bays to actually work on your car. This thrust has been applied all along. The thrill of modding your box is quietly fading either through availability or software restrictions.


... and it's also indicative of Dictatorships when there's a single pipe-line of thought that prevails through the system.

When the masses can be convinced to throw a perfectly fine and working device away every 2 years whats the benefit in supporting those who want to utilize every bit existing functionality to explore new technology ... the money is just not there especially when you consider what's necessary to support their idea of "legacy" hardware or software.
 
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