I wonder if Tim Cook and co ever come to this site to try and gauge with what people actually want from them.
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Sadly - "we" do not even register ... the tinkerers, creative thinkers, masters, dreamers, inter-weavers and such represent a small fraction in the Apple Money Pool ... they now have legions of sheeple and blind followers who will forever be part of Apple's cloud (crowd). So I doubt you have to worry about Tim or Johnny caring one bit about what we want.
Sorry .. truly sorry really!
Some such folks do post here……. along with a bunch of disaffected dilettantes. Together they almost certainly represent a small fraction of Apple's Mac market.
The average Joe or Jill, who just wants to do stuff on an easy to use computer that lasts for several years with minimal hassle, is almost certain to be a repeat customer from time to time, unlike the aforementioned fickle few.
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Ultimately, the device will permit ubiquitous computing caring not whether MAC or PC .. think IOT ... and the portal / net / cloud will be intelligent enough to offload common strikes and serve up information to all anywhere. One day we'll look back and feel like we were riding horses while the cars moved around us.
Truly the "argument" of form-factor and connectivity will fade away and we'll be arguing more about how Siri confused our Doctor visit with Dr. Jay or how you ended up on State Street in Canada instead of New York or why your groceries arrived when the refrigerator was already over-stocked. Then... there's my personal favorite ... your car Lease payment is 50 cents short and you're on 95 South when the display in your car states "Pull over for Safe-Shutdown - Tow Truck enroute - Or Pay-Up!!!
Happy Days ahead folks!!
Truly the "argument" of form-factor and connectivity will fade away and we'll be arguing more about how Siri confused our Doctor visit with Dr. Jay or how you ended up on State Street in Canada instead of New York or why your groceries arrived when the refrigerator was already over-stocked. Then... there's my personal favorite ... your car Lease payment is 50 cents short and you're on 95 South when the display in your car states "Pull over for Safe-Shutdown - Tow Truck enroute - Or Pay-Up!!!
Happy Days ahead folks!!
This is true... for devices like tablets and iPhones. For tasks like getting a few sentences worth of information down from the net, you're right, there's no need for multiple I/O ports, or fancy GPUs, or standardized form-factors. There's no need for a PC at all.
But that's not what people do with PCs.
Sure, there are folks whose only interaction with a computing device is to spend 30 seconds checking the weather or finding out when a tv show will be broadcast. But, for many people, they need to get work done using a PC. They'll sit down, concentrate deeply on the task at hand, and spend a great deal of time typing, pointing, and otherwise interacting with the machine in order to create their own content. Office documents, database updates, new media products, code compilation -- all these are enhanced by having full-sized keyboard/mouse/etc. devices, large screens, and ancillary products (such as printers, scanners, external drives, etc.) available for use.
For people who can manage all their interaction with a computer with one hand while sitting on a couch, Apple is producing the perfect products. For folks who need deeper interaction with their computing devices, today's Apple is starting to make life hard...
Preach ... yes, preach on.. I have the first iPad which is my last because it just works good as a "slave" to my Mini but other than browsing the web while watching a movie it's never used. As you can see I have a large footprint and when it's time to work - work gets done!
Hi Guy`s ,
Well I bought one ! , I have not opened it yet , need you guy`s to help !!
I use my Mac Mini with my Sammy F8K , current MM is 2010 and running Snow L… at 1024 X 768
My new MM is an i5 / 8 Gb ram / 256 SSD , ? is can I use my new MM at 1024 X 768 ?
I have a MBP-r ( needs to be updated ) , but there is no list of res`s to choose from.
Are the newer MM`s the same way ? or can I run 1024 X 768 Sierra ?
If it boots with Yosy , I already have a boot drive with Sierra on it.
Thanks guys , Happy Holidays
Gary
O__ if any of you guy`s want my old one , it is a Core2Duo / 4 Gb`s ram / 320 HHD , it will boot with Sierra
installed and it is the one with the dedicated GPU , a 320 , I think.
It is in mint condition , just make an offer !!
Later
Me
Well I bought one ! , I have not opened it yet , need you guy`s to help !!
I use my Mac Mini with my Sammy F8K , current MM is 2010 and running Snow L… at 1024 X 768
My new MM is an i5 / 8 Gb ram / 256 SSD , ? is can I use my new MM at 1024 X 768 ?
I have a MBP-r ( needs to be updated ) , but there is no list of res`s to choose from.
Are the newer MM`s the same way ? or can I run 1024 X 768 Sierra ?
If it boots with Yosy , I already have a boot drive with Sierra on it.
Thanks guys , Happy Holidays
Gary
O__ if any of you guy`s want my old one , it is a Core2Duo / 4 Gb`s ram / 320 HHD , it will boot with Sierra
installed and it is the one with the dedicated GPU , a 320 , I think.
It is in mint condition , just make an offer !!
Later
Me
Well, the System Preferences "Display" panel should provide a "Scaled" option. If you click on that, it should give a list of alternate resolutions available for that monitor. The list does seem to have been pared down over the years, so it might not provide 1024 x 768, but you can probably pick something fairly close.
Stop with this already. We're not all going to be happy about paying a premium for an inferior product.
The minimal hassle reference isn't even true anymore.
The average Joe or Jill, for their purposes, would be better off with Chromebooks. I like Apple, but I'm waiting for a product that actually makes sense.
And it's not a fickle few - my entire company (10,000s of clients and hundreds of staff) is transitioning away from Apple. The transition is at work, but that leads to changes at home and what their children are using. Apple products just don't make sense anymore for many situations.
If you're capped at 16 GB, you're not pro. If you're popping a spinner in there, you are purposely destroying the user experience (try it with even a SATA SSD - it's not comparable). Presented with any choice, why would a user not at least grumble when they're forking over premium dollars to upgrade what should be already included.
Don't characterize those unhappy with Apple's product releases as disaffected dilettantes or the fickle few and we won't characterize you as a lemming, a luddite, or as entirely devoid of common sense.
Quite the contrary ..."the tinkerers, creative thinkers, masters, dreamers, inter-weavers and such got Apple where they are today ... we stepped away from the fold in the 80's to make Apple what it is today ... a leader then but slipping now ... as for your clients and company .. they will continue to hang in there ... well, because their kids aint gonna go for it nor is grandma ... for them it still "just works".
We're all hot and bothered but I seriously believe this stall is precipitated by Apple for financial gain - they have the latitude (money) to "F-ck Up(grades) and build a f-cking Space Ship for crying out loud. Once the mothership is complete they will take us where no one has gone before ... because well, they know what's best.
Wireless beaming, glass shells, AR and no more calls for "more power Scottie"! ... and watch that TouchBar concept make it to the iPhone where the device completely morphs functionality according to which App you're in ... can't you see it ... a clear piece of Sapphire Glass that becomes whatever ... hell - you could even emulate an iPhone 5 on an iPhone 8 and still kick it with the latest technology!
Beam me up!
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I just got in my new Asrock Deskmini 110 case. While it's volume is significantly larger than a Mini, when you have the 2 next to each other, the Deskmini actually looks much smaller... It's very cool looking. I'm only going to put a i3-6100 in it, but that's still 15% faster than the highest end 2014 Mini processor i7-4578U. It's not good when the Mac is boring...
Ahhh, Remember this......The good old days when there was still hope.
I came in at post 50 with solid advise, lol.
I feel... nostalgic.
And resigned to stretching my 2012 quad Mini as far as it will go.
I give Apple 2 more years and it will be evident there's no return to upgradibility on the desktop in which case if they're not making a machine that runs circles around everything else I'll go with whatever solution exists which will more than likely eclipse whatever we're using now. In 2 years no one will be making real desktops or we'll all be on another forum.
Apple is the only technology company that treats its products like a fine wine... they want then to be aged for years before release. I'm hoping for a vintage Pentium III in the next Mac Mini, with maybe a hint of 64MB of RAM. Delicious!
I full heartedly agree with the first half of your comment but want to adjust the second. It's not that they're sheeple or blind followers, Apple has been making products that fit the need of the majority of customers but no longer exceed expectations like they used to. Majority of people including myself, buy their products because it does what I need but I no longer (as many people I know) evangelize my love of Apple like back in the days. I just hope they wake up and get back into "exceeding expectations" before they end up like Michael Kors...
I think we will see the latest from Intel and AMD (Vega).
That's the reason I'm saying late March.
Just a guess though.
So Apple Watch sales have tanked by 70%. Wouldn't have been better for Apple to put the same effort trying to peddle it's Watches and Bands and instead have released a new MP or Mini? The company once known for great computers has given them the ugly stepchild treatment. One day when iPhone sales tank maybe then will they have wished they had given the Macs.
The sheeple and blind followers are those who have no problem with they way Apple rolled out iOS7 where iOS6 users woke up to the surprise they could no longer Facetime with those who upgraded or removing the headphone jack or the default thinking that the Cloud is the answer or soldered RAM being the way to go. And most certainly, I take function over form when form does not enhance function as in ... too thin for a decent battery life - jeez!
In this day and age you'd really trade battery life or RAM for a TouchBar or 2-3 oz?
My personal favorite began with the iPod repairs and getting a replacement other than the unit I sent in.
"No" - I say now as I said "Yes" in 1984 and beyond!
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I was never a Jobs fanboi, but the critical leadership hole at Apple left by his departure is becoming increasingly obvious.
No disrespect to Cook, who clearly has some outstanding skills as an organiser and manager, nor to Ives, who is a great designer, both critical roles in a team. But they are also clearly not the leaders that a company like Apple needs at the helm to point them in the direction they need to go.
In fairness, the likes of Jobs don't come along very often, and he may well have been a classic product of his times, never to be repeated.
No disrespect to Cook, who clearly has some outstanding skills as an organiser and manager, nor to Ives, who is a great designer, both critical roles in a team. But they are also clearly not the leaders that a company like Apple needs at the helm to point them in the direction they need to go.
In fairness, the likes of Jobs don't come along very often, and he may well have been a classic product of his times, never to be repeated.
This is actually a great article on that topic (if you haven't read it yet): http://venturebeat.com/2016/10/25/why-tim-cook-is-steve-ballmer/
I think the author nailed it.
In fairness, "timing" is probably at work also - Jobs had the "mobile computing vision" framed out many years before the mobile paradigm was crossed - technology caught up in the wake of Jobs first exit and was poised for execution when he returned. His relentless pursuit of quality helped keep us seated behind Apple products for all the years leading up to iPad - he served up happiness across the whole platform. There was always some myopia like the "one-button mouse" but alas the entire platform had life and energy ... enough to bridge the migration to Intel.
A controlling, maniacal, genius with visionary ideas that he executed to the fullest extent throughout the organization - surely not to be repeated.
A controlling, maniacal, genius with visionary ideas that he executed to the fullest extent throughout the organization - surely not to be repeated.
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I'm getting very tempted to build one of these: http://snazzylabs.com/article/skylake-mac-mini-hackintosh/
Does anyone have an even better suggestion?
Does anyone have an even better suggestion?