Maybe this is an issue with certain dialects of English -- around here, hotcakes are another name for pancakes.
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Maybe this is an issue with certain dialects of English -- around here, hotcakes are another name for pancakes.
Maybe this is an issue with certain dialects of English -- around here, hotcakes are another name for pancakes.
Yummie! Yeah, it's a local dialect thing. Over on the other side of the state in Youngstown, we called this second breakfast.
Huh, what's with the attitude matey?
For one thing, as pointed out by a previous poster, Fusion Drive as offered in the current Mac Mini comes with 128 GB of flash storage, not 24 GB. It is offered as an option because folks have different needs, desires and budgets. Just because you find Fusion Drive desirable doesn't mean that it should be standard for all.
Is it a con? Apple does provide info on their website:
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini?product=MGEN2LL/A&step=config
Your money, your choice….. though I guess those who don't have their facts right are almost certainly conned.
Actually my Mac Mini has 5 GB of RAM installed at present. Yes, my needs are modest, but are probably not too different from a large number of Mac Mini users. Whinging geeks and dilettantes desiring bragging rights to Pro specs and performance on a Mini budget probably represent an insignificant percentage of the market (albeit a vociferous bunch on-line), thus are likely ignored by the folks at Apple.
Just an FYI, since it has been brought up in this thread. AMD demoed Ryzen last night and it basically exceeded 6900k IPC (Broadwell-E), with lower clocks and TDP. That should make it close to Skylake IPC, but more efficient and much cheaper. Jim Keller did his magic here and it has paid off.
Obviously this is not a chip for the Mini (although technically, why not???) but it should give some idea what to expect from a 4C or 6C chip. Any Ryzen APU will destroy a dual core Haswell.
Obviously this is not a chip for the Mini (although technically, why not???) but it should give some idea what to expect from a 4C or 6C chip. Any Ryzen APU will destroy a dual core Haswell.
Ooooh pancakesMaybe this is an issue with certain dialects of English -- around here, hotcakes are another name for pancakes.
yeah last time I bought them was when I was I the states.Edit - 15 years ago!! Make them at home very occasionally.
I've bought about 10 macs in that time lol
Mmm... hot pancakes, maple syrup, sliced banana, and fresh cream.
That's great news, the only bad part being mobile Ryzen CPUs won't be here until 2H 2017. To be fair, it would have to be compared with Kaby Lake and not Haswell.
But at this point, I'll take anything that's not just a 10% improvement.
Well for a start it needs to be more powerful than my phone - it currently isn't.
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If you can supply me with the list I reckon I will be able to get them all on the back of a postage stamp.
If you can supply me with the list I reckon I will be able to get them all on the back of a postage stamp.
Well, then, let me start with my parents, my aunts and uncles and other older relatives, many of my older friends, and pretty much anybody who depends on having a desktop computer mainly for email, facebook, and general web-oriented tasks. These people have not, in my experience, enjoyed trying to do their social networking tasks sitting down at a couch with a tablet.
I extrapolate from this that there is a significant group of people who do not spend either their working time or their leisure time performing any compute-intensive tasks. However, they do spend time on social networking; and serious social networking is performed best at a desk.
Let me move the Venn diagram further out then; adjacent to this group of people, there are those who engage in office-style work (either in an actual office, or at home). Writing documents, managing spreadsheets, performing light database work; none of these things require significant CPU or GPU power. My own brother is one of these people -- I keep harping on him about how weak his PC is, but whenever he comes back with the rejoinder that "it does what I need it to do", I really don't have a good response. Because, honestly, for him it really does do the job he needs; there's no good reason for him to go out today and buy a more expensive machine, because he wouldn't need the power it provides.
Honestly, I could imagine that maybe more than half of this country falls into these two categories. There are many, many people who are engaged in businesses that are not compute-intensive. There are many more who are retired. And I would guess that the majority of Americans do not center their personal life around computers. I suspect that is true in other countries as well.
It is true that I don't have any hard data on how people in general use (or don't use) computers. This is all anecdotal evidence and gut instinct on my part.
On the other hand, I do know that Steve Jobs explicitly went after the segment of the population that does not care to learn the details of how computers work. People who just want to switch on a black box, do something with it, and turn it back off. And Apple has profited greatly from this approach.
So yeah, you're going to need a pretty dang enormous postage stamp, to get the majority of Apple's customers to fit onto it.
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Although I am cynical and don't believe you, I am eternally optimistic regarding the MacMini and double checked Apple.com...
Why would you play with our emotions like this???
Tim Cook whispered it into Donald Trump's ear during their meeting.
Aha! Made in America, too! Great "news".
I think that jpietrzak8 is right - average person does little serious work with a computer. People replying here may work heavily with computers, and know people who work heavily with computers, and so there is a tendency to think that this is typical and that others similarly value computing power. But that's biased thinking.
As much as I would like a mini update, I do agree think that the base model mini from 2014 meets the needs of the average person.
He's claiming to use a base mini from 8 years ago - which is not suitable for modern users, no matter how modest their use. You are going to run into MASSIVE problems even browsing the web on a machine like that. And forget about using things like Office 2016.
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Base mini comes with 8 GB of ram and 256 GB SSD?
Only in our dreams.
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I'm currently using a base Mini from 2007 for my HTPC, and I also do light browsing on it. No problems at all with the browser (I'm using Chrome, and I've upgraded to 2 GB of RAM, which gives me plenty of room when running under OS X 10.6).
My mother is using a base Mini from 2009. Again, no problems browsing. (I've upgraded her RAM to 4 GB; that was necessary, given the increased resource demands of current OS X.)
And yeah, I don't use Office 2016. Why would I? I don't do anything that involves Microsoft Office myself. Nor does my mother. (And yeah, Office is one of the worst office applications you can choose, if you're limited in RAM or CPU. There are many better choices out there.)
Well let's see about this - MacOS has around 10% of global market. I suspect the Mini accounts for only a tiny percentage of that 10%, so yes, I guess I was right, figuratively speaking a postage stamp was about the right size.
I've been saving up money every week waiting for a good Mac Mini. It's been a while, might buy a car or put a down payment on a house instead.
I have 11 pcs for mining coins. all windows 7
I have 3 mac minis
I have 3 lenovo m700's which are going to replace the mac mini's.
Apple is so busy selling iPhones the don't care about desktops. I would like to Upgrade my HT and I don't have a suitable Apple pc for a 4k tv. This is why I am playing with the lenevo m700 tinys.
My anger at Apple runs deep. Simply because they won't build a desk top for my Home Theater. Their decision is preventing my purchase of a 65 inch 4k tv and a new pre pro that handles 4k tv.
So they are harming two other industries Sony for the tv and lets say Marantz for the pre pro . I hold my anger in check because my 1080p tv is okay and 4k tv's keep dropping in price.
I have 3 mac minis
I have 3 lenovo m700's which are going to replace the mac mini's.
Apple is so busy selling iPhones the don't care about desktops. I would like to Upgrade my HT and I don't have a suitable Apple pc for a 4k tv. This is why I am playing with the lenevo m700 tinys.
My anger at Apple runs deep. Simply because they won't build a desk top for my Home Theater. Their decision is preventing my purchase of a 65 inch 4k tv and a new pre pro that handles 4k tv.
So they are harming two other industries Sony for the tv and lets say Marantz for the pre pro . I hold my anger in check because my 1080p tv is okay and 4k tv's keep dropping in price.
Why wo
If you need iTunes it will run with Windows.
Why do you need a Mini for a 4K tv?
If you need iTunes it will run with Windows.
Well let's see about this - MacOS has around 10% of global market. I suspect the Mini accounts for only a tiny percentage of that 10%, so yes, I guess I was right, figuratively speaking a postage stamp was about the right size.
Every time I do a search for Amazon's best seller in desktop category. Mac mini is always ranked first for Apple, followed by iMac.
Well let's see about this - MacOS has around 10% of global market. I suspect the Mini accounts for only a tiny percentage of that 10%, so yes, I guess I was right, figuratively speaking a postage stamp was about the right size.
Yes, right, of course. As almost always, you are almost always more or less right of course. None the less, the new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming.
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