I'm basically just hoping that this delay is waiting for AMD to come out with new chips as Apple has seen their roadmap and decided they will be the way to go in the future, like they did when they chose to switch to Intel due to their future roadmap. That however is a pipe dream on so many different levels, and nothing I would place a bet on.
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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I lean towards the other side, if the AMD processor (Zen) is significantly more powerful than the current one, and it has much more graphics horsepower as well, I wouldn't mind at all. It would probably be cheaper to include an AMD processor anyway, which COULD mean a fusion drive standard. I say that with caution, though!
Fusion drive is only 24 GB of flash storage. It probably costs Apple less than $7.00 per unit. Cost has nothing to do with why they don't include it standard.
Apple's entry level desktops aren't even real products. They only exist so that they can up-sell you on higher-end specs and massively expensive upgrades.
That is if both sides were equal, and they're not. There are many that would not bother with a Mac with AMD CPU, even if it smokes Core i5/i7. AMD CPUs are considered budget and at the already high price Apple is charging for two year old hardware, to some it's akin to highway robbery.
Definitely. A guy with a mask and gun in an Apple t-shirt came to my house and forced me to buy a Mini!
Because for the needs of some, the large amount of storage per buck a HDD makes sense. For some the snappiness of an SSD is worth the expense. For those who seek some of the speed of the SSD, as well as the bulk storage of an HHD, Fusion is the way to go. Seems sensible to make the option available.
Nonsense. Both my Mac Minis have been base models, and adequate for my humble needs, and would probably be OK for more than a few others. Indeed, there are those who have posted their satisfaction of the base model 2014 Mac Mini. Given the photography that I am doing now, my next Mac Mini (which is almost certainly coming) is likely to be a mid range model. Bragging rights to a maxed out Mac Mini are of no interest to me.
A nice bit of satire.Definitely. A guy with a mask and gun in an Apple t-shirt came to my house and forced me to buy a Mini!
Many consumers are victim to their own arrogant desires, which savvy companies profit from. No one is forcing anyone to buy anything.
Well, we know that changed to AMD processors or not, you wouldn't be buying one anyway. A pointless post really. Ciao.
Yes but as you never tire of telling us your needs are "humble". Your use is not the norm. Most users want to future proof to an extent. A machine that's puffing and wheezing when you buy it is hardly what you want to be spending your hard earned cash on.
In the meantime... while Apple is busy not updating their actual computers, get ready... Wait, I know you are thinking watch bands. NO! This is not nearly as exciting as that. But it is obviously more exciting than updating computers. Yes, you probably know by now... Apple has announced their new HEADPHONES! Yes! Happy Day!
My base model Mac Mini was not puffing and wheezing when I bought it nearly 8 years ago, and it is still handling what I expect of it. Folks who bought a base model 2014 Mac Mini for simple needs have not found it to be puffing and wheezing. What is the norm for a Mac Mini user?
Mac Mini users have a variety of needs, and a range of standard and custom specs are available to suit. Need more? Go pro, or go elsewhere.
Future proof to an extent is an oxymoron. Maxing out specs may help match a computer to your needs, but maxed out or base model any computer will become obsolete at about the same time.
I look forward to what AMD announces today. I read a lot about their new chips and they may turn out to be really good but I'm cautious because it is AMD and it usually takes some time after product release to shake all the bugs out just like their GPU's.
Huh? It seems sensible to you to sell $7.00 worth of flash storage as a $100.00 upgrade? OK then buddy. Whatever you say.
There is no "expense" for 24 GB of flash storage. It's practically free at only a few dollars per unit with Apple buying in bulk. Apple just decides not to include it standard because they would rather con their customers.
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So you are using a computer an 8 year old mac mini with 1 GB of ram, huh? Yeah, pretty safe to say your "needs" are in the bottom 1% of computer users.
Considering Zen (or Ryzen as it will likely be called after today) will only be 4C and up, it will be significantly faster than what we have in our Mini's today. Ryzen was at Broadwell IPC back in August, so it was already faster than Haswell even at the engineering sample stage. Skylake IPC does not seem likely but who knows.
At any rate, I hope AMD will be able to disrupt the CPU market in such a way it will force Intel to put effort into their CPU's again. I mean, Kaby Lake shows only 1-3% IPC increase over Skylake, while asking the same price. That's just lazy.
Hey, I found out when the new mac mini is coming! It's January 14, 2017. Well, it's new to me, anyway, even though it is a 2012 i5 model. Trust me, my newish mac mini is almost certainly coming Jan.14.
Hey, I found out when the new mac mini is coming! It's January 14, 2017. Well, it's new to me, anyway, even though it is a 2012 i5 model. Trust me, my newish mac mini is almost certainly coming Jan.14.
Do you have a source?
Yes, my good old friend (for 48 years) is cleaning out a few old computers, and offered to give me this mini. He's going to visit Jan. 14 and bringing it with him. I will take it, jazz it up with memory and SSD, and then hunker down for the long wait for the new mac mini, which is almost certainly coming.
Actually, that's not at all safe to say. In fact, the base Mini is perfect for the current needs of Apple's targeted userbase; and, given their profits, they seem to have chosen quite well.
I dislike Apple's own "race to the bottom" of current computing technology, focussing on supplying the bare minimum needed by people who are light users of computer technology. But @Micky Do is right, the current base Mini is fine for many, many modern computer users.
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You know what would be cool? If Apple announced they are replacing the 2014 Mini with the 2012 Mini AGAIN and you can update memory and storage yourself.
Whoops sorry, I totally didn't read the 2012 i5 part. My bad!
My vote for cool: Apple works together with Intel and releases a line of Apple-branded NUCs running OS X, including the ASC (Apple Skull Canyon).
...starting at €1299...My vote for cool: Apple works together with Intel and releases a line of Apple-branded NUCs running OS X, including the ASC (Apple Skull Canyon).
I was thinking today that I'd love to put up a NUC serving as media/Spotify server and Time Machine and nothing else, then realised Time Machine doesn't work on PCs... (although maybe it does, if it's only used as drive + wifi, gotta investigate further). Mac Micro Mini Minus if you will.
The base mini has about the same specs as the MacBook, and those are selling like hotcakes (does anyone buy hotcakes?). If only the base mini came in rose gold, it would sell like there is no tomorrow (but I hope there is a tomorrow, because the new mac mini is almost certainly not coming today).
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Good idea, but I don't think Apple would use a name like Skull Canyon. Maybe the Apple NUCi?
Oh, I love hotcakes! But yeah, I don't buy them as much as I did when I was younger; can't handle eating large amounts of sugary food as much as I once did...
