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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

Cape Dave said:
Points well taken. I guess I must try the pen. It might work.
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I fully intent for it to have that. And a working battery too :) And a beautiful AMOLED screen. And a kick ass camera.
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My wife still likes the iPad and her iPhone which fits her needs just fine for what she does. I am thinking of moving on also after my SE dies. I require little in a smart phone since I'm retired. We have a Ooma voip phone at home and it provides great service for a couple of dollars a month and I only use my SE when I'm out and about.
My hack with macOS, Windows 10 and Linux Mint provides me with all the entertainment I need.
I have no faith in Apples direction with Mac's. I see IOS based devices as their driving force under Tim.
I have to also add that Tim may be on the right track as far as the next generation of people are concerned. I mean by that that my grand children that are mostly in their final years of high school and some in college use smart phones, tablets and laptops and No desktops. 2 in 1 laptops that can be used in tablet and laptop form seem to be the most popular so since Apple won't port macOS to an iPad type device they are stuck with 2 devices to provide what most manufacturers provide in one.

One more thing about my pile of grand children. None of them use iPads. Some of them use iPhones but mostly Android and none of them have Macs. They either use Chromes but mostly Windows machines.
 
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I think iPads are the niche market here, not a well-designed Mini-like box. Dump the iPad, dump the iMac, build a user-configurable Mini box, a kick-ass Pro box, consumer- and pro-laptops, and the iPhone. Remember that "well designed" includes function as well as form (something Apple has CLEARLY forgotten). If you want to go all wild and crazy when you get back on a stable base, go build a super-thin car with one tiny port for gas/electricity.
 
jpietrzak8 said:
I have thought of the alternative. I've moved my work over to Linux. More reliable than Apple, odd as it feels to say that...
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Getting better all the time isn't it. I hardly ever get some minor UI error any more, and entertainment runs better than ever also. Speaking of my laptop with Windows wiped and Ubuntu Mate 16.04 installed.
 
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calisurfboy said:
The 2012 with quad i7 still costs an arm and a leg.
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True, but I got a 2012 2.6 ghz/16gb/256gb SSD quad last summer anyway. At the time it was $150 cheaper than a new top of the line 3ghz/16gb/256gb Mini and it's 50% faster. I don't want a PC. Not interested in a science project like a hackintosh, I just want to run all my expensive legacy Mac software, and this machine does it really well. :)
 
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dogslobber said:
What if Apple sneak out a new Mini at the upcoming March Event? Are people gonna throw their non-Apple Mini replacements in the trash and buy the new one?
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Nah. It isn't so much that Apple needs a new desktop model, so much as it needs to prove that it can be counted on as a reliable producer of desktop computers. It may not be glamorous work pushing out incremental updates every few months, and it may not have the short-term profits of a big new release, but companies like Dell or HP are there with up-to-date hardware when you need it.

The next Mini would have to be a doozy to attract my attention. Not only would it need to answer the question "Is this a good machine for me today", but "Will this machine serve my needs for the next five to ten years", given the rate at which Apple has been producing updates...
 
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The non-Apple OS is simply not the handicap it used to be, dogslobber.
It seems Apple no longer has the software team it needs to build a rock solid, modern OS in a reasonable, say 2 year time frame. Anything less than that though leaves plenty of room for being content with non-Apple OS and hardware.
Seems to me, they made a huge mistake when they shifted to the mandatory once a year OS updates. No time to get things right lead to too much slop, and even the hardware suffered as they were forced to shoehorn that in around sparkly new OS gimmicks.
 
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Partron22 said:
The non-Apple OS is simply not the handicap it used to be, dogslobber.
It seems Apple no longer has the software team it needs to build a rock solid, modern OS in a reasonable, say 2 year time frame. Anything less than that though leaves plenty of room for being content with non-Apple OS and hardware.
Seems to me, they made a huge mistake when they shifted to the mandatory once a year OS updates. No time to get things right lead to too much slop, and even the hardware suffered as they were forced to shoehorn that in around sparkly new OS gimmicks.
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It is hard to express in words how much I AGREE with this. Yearly updates for no good reason except feature bloat just does not bode well for something that, if not reliable and fast, is simply useless.
 
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Partron22 said:
The non-Apple OS is simply not the handicap it used to be, dogslobber.
It seems Apple no longer has the software team it needs to build a rock solid, modern OS in a reasonable, say 2 year time frame. Anything less than that though leaves plenty of room for being content with non-Apple OS and hardware.
Seems to me, they made a huge mistake when they shifted to the mandatory once a year OS updates. No time to get things right lead to too much slop, and even the hardware suffered as they were forced to shoehorn that in around sparkly new OS gimmicks.
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Couldn't agree more. IMO this is Apple's Achilles Heel. F*$k new hardware when they can't even get their software policy right by incessantly releasing annual OS updates that leave the core of the OS with crippling Finder bugs... I'd rather see Apple sort out all the bloated garbage in macOS by sticking to a two year STABILITY plan over an annual garbage dump. What good is new hardware when an abandoned OS leaves your shiny new object with bugs you need squashed to operate it with a minimum of headaches? I'll stick to my legacy machines until they realize their priorities are backwards.
 
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I am still on Mavericks, with no complaints. Only now looking at moving to El Cap, and only now because I have a dying drive in the Mini that needs replacing, and also have been wanting for a while to do a fresh system install from scratch and clean out a few years of accumulated crap, so it's as good a time as any to move to EC and do all that in one go.

Sierra is at least a year off for me, maybe longer if EC is ticking over okay.
 
sorcery said:
Still plenty of 2012s for sale, if I need a replacement.
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calisurfboy said:
The 2012 with quad i7 still costs an arm and a leg. I don't feel its worth it at this point when you can pick up a NUC and turn it into a hackintosh with more powerful hardware while costing much less.
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It's also worth keeping in mind that those old Mac Minis are unlikely to be supported with new versions of macOS for much longer.
 
dumastudetto said:
It's also worth keeping in mind that those old Mac Minis are unlikely to be supported with new versions of macOS for much longer.
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A pretty darn capable quad core i7 should have no reason to be put out to pasture, as far as OS X goes. Apple not supporting the hardware itself, from a service perspective, sure.
 
duma wrote (in #9246):
"It's also worth keeping in mind that those old Mac Minis are unlikely to be supported with new versions of macOS for much longer."

Matters not.
So long as mine runs (and runs well as it does now), I'll keep using it with whatever OS does best.
Mine came with 10.8 on it, and I still use that as "my main OS".

On my mid-2010 MacBook Pro, I used 10.6.8 right up until I retired it in December 2016. Also ran great with nary a glitch.

Fishrrman's advice:
Use what works best for you...
 
Fishrrman said:
duma wrote (in #9246):
"It's also worth keeping in mind that those old Mac Minis are unlikely to be supported with new versions of macOS for much longer."

Matters not.
So long as mine runs (and runs well as it does now), I'll keep using it with whatever OS does best.
Mine came with 10.8 on it, and I still use that as "my main OS".

On my mid-2010 MacBook Pro, I used 10.6.8 right up until I retired it in December 2016. Also ran great with nary a glitch.

Fishrrman's advice:
Use what works best for you...
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You can certainly use older versions of the operating system, but they do have security holes and vulnerabilities. So you're taking a risk, but that's your decision of course to make.
 
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dumastudetto said:
It's also worth keeping in mind that those old Mac Minis are unlikely to be supported with new versions of macOS for much longer.
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Years ago that was good reasoning. Things have changed. Apple merged the MacOS dev team with the iOS dev team. This has led to very little progress on MacOS and no significant reason for upgrading... really since Mavericks
 
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