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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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You said your wife's needs were minimal but you are hesitant to buy her a MB Air because it's underpowered? Does she need an i7 with dedicated graphics to look at Facebook? I'm confused.
How triggered would everyone get if this thread got locked at 9,999 posts?
We're all just constantly triggered that the mac mini is dead and mac itself will become a legacy thing soon.
Yes, I buy for long term, I don't turn over computer inventory in the house every other year. That is why my 2012 15" cMBP with 16 gigs RAM and SSDs is the PERFECT machine for me. It will still be chugging on non gaming tasks for years to come. A Maxed out Air would be good, but the Apple tax is way out of proportions, compared to when I bought my cMBP.
Perhaps what I am looking for, will NEVER be built by Apple again. And I'll eventually have to accept it, like I just have with the Mac Mini.
Air needs to get a screen from this decade.
I'm just pointing out options for people that want something more powerful and quiet.
I have a 2013 11" MacBook Air with the i7, 8gb and 512gb SSD and still love it. Unless it dies, it should meet my needs for a few more years. The screen is not cutting edge but it's just fine and a reasonable compromise for a computer that is incredibly portable and powerful with great battery life. More pixels would not do anything for me, the dot pitch is already very high on the 11" screen. Would I buy one today? Maybe not, but it's a great little computer that can run powerful software.
It's kind of funny that many of the people complaining here also boast about how they keep their computers for many years. So you want to spend between $500 to $1000 every 8 years… no wonder Apple doesn't think it's worth their while to cater to this market.
I go all the way back to 1978 with Apple, when I got an Apple ][. Got my first Mac in 1985. It sucks, but Apple isn't the kind of cool company it was in the past. Now they are one of the biggest companies in the world and the darling of Wall Street. Their stock is owned by "widows and orphans" and probably your pension plan as well. Recently the stock hit new highs.
I really dislike Tim Cook and the direction the company has taken. But "it is what it is". He runs the company to keep Wall Street happy and they can make more money with annual iPhone upgrades. Hopefully their computers will continue to get some attention, even if the updates aren't as frequent as we would like. I don't think they will get rid of the Mac or stop development of MacOS. They are not going to sell it to someone else or turn it into open source software. And they aren't going to buy some box from HP and put their logo on it.
So I guess you just have to bail and move to Windows or Linux if you are so upset over the state of the Mac. And if you do, be sure to keep coming back to this thread,whining about how terrible Apple is and how you could do a better job of running the company.
It's kind of funny that many of the people complaining here also boast about how they keep their computers for many years. So you want to spend between $500 to $1000 every 8 years… no wonder Apple doesn't think it's worth their while to cater to this market.
I go all the way back to 1978 with Apple, when I got an Apple ][. Got my first Mac in 1985. It sucks, but Apple isn't the kind of cool company it was in the past. Now they are one of the biggest companies in the world and the darling of Wall Street. Their stock is owned by "widows and orphans" and probably your pension plan as well. Recently the stock hit new highs.
I really dislike Tim Cook and the direction the company has taken. But "it is what it is". He runs the company to keep Wall Street happy and they can make more money with annual iPhone upgrades. Hopefully their computers will continue to get some attention, even if the updates aren't as frequent as we would like. I don't think they will get rid of the Mac or stop development of MacOS. They are not going to sell it to someone else or turn it into open source software. And they aren't going to buy some box from HP and put their logo on it.
So I guess you just have to bail and move to Windows or Linux if you are so upset over the state of the Mac. And if you do, be sure to keep coming back to this thread,whining about how terrible Apple is and how you could do a better job of running the company.
Apple's business model is focused towards millennials and not in the past. Desktop computers are not a concern and require more investment for little return. The OS is only maintained with little in the way of innovation.
Millennials only require laptops, cell phones and maybe a tablet.
Most of us here are of an era that has past that were participants in the PC wars of old which no longer exist.
M$ft won with Windows 10 and Apple won with IOS.
Millennials only require laptops, cell phones and maybe a tablet.
Most of us here are of an era that has past that were participants in the PC wars of old which no longer exist.
M$ft won with Windows 10 and Apple won with IOS.
My daughter and son in law are millenials. Upgraded my 2012 base mini with 16gb and external SSD and gave it to them for Christmas to replace their 10 year old iMac. They are just thrilled with it. Awhile ago I asked if they wanted laptops and they had zero interest. But they do love their iPhones and iPads. In their minds, a "computer" is something with a big screen that you use while sitting at a desk.
I'm sure they would have been even happier with a new iMac, but the Mini was a cheaper option for Santa Claus.
Mac revenue is still 22 billion dollars a year (and falling). No company is going to dump that.
http://m.crn.com/news/mobility/3000...-first-drop-in-annual-revenue-in-15-years.htm
http://m.crn.com/news/mobility/3000...-first-drop-in-annual-revenue-in-15-years.htm
It's maximizing the longevity of the computer, for the $$$ you spend. Take both into consideration, and it makes perfect sense.It's kind of funny that many of the people complaining here also boast about how they keep their computers for many years. So you want to spend between $500 to $1000 every 8 years… no wonder Apple doesn't think it's worth their while to cater to this market.
You replace phones more often that 8 years. Your great experience convinces others to get off the cheapo PC treadmill. You become a vocal advocate for the brand. Etc...
I used to do all of those. Got many family and friends to switch to Mac.
/iPhones. So while I don't buy as frequently, WAY man more Macs have been purchased, THANKS to my prostalitizing the brand. But not any more.
That's what called being penny wise, and pound foolish. Which is all Apple understands these days. They'll eventually learn, since you can't write iOS apps in iOS.
Like you, my first Apple was in 1979. Almost 40 years of Apple, and you wonder why passions run a little hot? I thought you would understand.So I guess you just have to bail and move to Windows or Linux if you are so upset over the state of the Mac. And if you do, be sure to keep coming back to this thread,whining about how terrible Apple is and how you could do a better job of running the company.
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Oh I completely understand. But all the whining in this thread just gets really old.
It's a Mac Mini thread, with a machine that hasn't been updated in 3 years, which was even a downgrade from the version 2 years before that.
Why would you expect anything but anger, angst and whining towards Apple?
I was really looking froward to an updated Mac mini, for my son, for the last couple of years. Money in hand, even with the anti-consumer glue/solder uses in everything now. But Apple has chosen to have the mini grow old and be a horrible value. It's very disappointing, especially when you see the myriad of designs on the PC side.
As I said earlier in the thread, I'm grateful for a good deal on a late-2013 iMac, which has enough inside to last several years. You chided me earlier for NOT buying enough Macs, when this is a good example of Apple simply not offering what people want - see nearly 10k posts about it, in this thread alone. My signature is pretty darn accurate, I'd say.
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You haven't noticed that macs have changed and you can't do that anymore?It's kind of funny that many of the people complaining here also boast about how they keep their computers for many years. So you want to spend between $500 to $1000 every 8 years… no wonder Apple doesn't think it's worth their while to cater to this market.
Even if your numbers are a bit exaggerated, people used to buy a mac for $2k and it had a resale value of 67%-33% after 3-7 years.
Now, resale value of 4 year old mac with soldered ssd is about ZERO.
Oh, why I don't like that? Can you guess?
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I was thinking of the Mini. Here in the US it starts at $500 and the top of the line model with a big SSD is something like $1500. But did you also notice the "smiley" at the end of my comment?
I am not at all happy with the current Mini, I have the base 2014 model for an iTunes server and it's fine for that, but otherwise it's pretty sad. I also have a 2012 quad core which is great, I wish they would offer a new equivalent to that but I doubt it will ever happen. Personally I never consider resale value when I buy a computer, I run them right into the ground and have never re-sold them. Sometimes I give them to family and friends however.
I understand the anger and frustration, and I guess people just need to vent. But the situation seems pretty clear. It's like your old girlfriend is now a big movie star and rarely returns phone calls. It sucks, but it's not so hard to figure out. It will make you angry and bitter if you dwell on it but it won't change anything.
That's a funny coincidence, because the Mac mini "getting old" is exactly what we're whining about.
I think 99% of the angst and frustration would dissipate if Apple would let us know what's in the works.
I am not expecting them to release information on the latest and greatest or next big thing, but they can certainly let us know that they're going to upgrade the mini with a faster processor and USB 3.1, etc. Instead were left in the dark, high and dry, and frustrated.
Upgrades to the processor, memory, or hard drives does not have to be kept a big secret that needs its own presentation. If Apple would just give its customer some idea about what's going to be updated, it would help many potential customers plan their next purchase and alleviate some of the frustration.
I think you have a poor business model when you relegate your customers to buying used, something temporary, or keep them guessing and hoping updates and/or new products are in the works.
Exactly.
That's exactly what I just did. My old Mac Mini just died & I bought the next model up from what I had on eBay cuz there was no way I was going to buy the maligned 2014 3 year old Mac Mini.
So Apple lost me as a customer. That sale could have been theirs and now I'm out of the computer buying loop for another 5 years.
I did the same thing, considered a maxxed out 2014 mini but a used 2012 quad was cheaper and also 50% faster. But it seems crystal clear to me. Apple just doesn't particularly care about customers like us. I don't think it's malicious, they just have other priorities now, like hundreds of millions of people in China that want an iPhone and how that will affect their share price. And by not telling us their plans for the mini, they keep their options open.
They are presently losing market share on phones in China because China's product manufacturers are making just as good of phones as Apple and much cheaper.
They are losing market share of Macs because they don't update them on a timely biases.
How come the most valuable company in the world can't do both those things at once though?