The one place I'd improve my 2018 mini is the iGPU, but that's been the weak spot of minis since I got in the mini groove more than a decade ago. I just can't see splashing $2.2K (presuming 32 GPU cores) just for the graphics, when I've got a PC with a discrete GPU for what gaming and rendering I do.Thanks for freeing up a place in the queue ;-) I'm also on a 2018 mini, but feel the shortcomings of the integrated GPU quite massively in my workflow, so the Studio comes with perfect timing.
John Ternus (SVP, Hardware Engineering) said "...making our transition nearly complete, with just one more product to go, Mac Pro."
So the 2018 Intel Mac mini still on the website may be an error, there may be no more Mac mini than the Mn-series SoC model...?
They can still keep the old stuff around up until and even after the deadline. They might have a bunch of Intel boards lying around.So the 2018 Intel Mac mini still on the website may be an error, there may be no more Mac mini than the Mn-series SoC model...?
I completely understand that POV. I only recently switched to PC gaming (it's all I use the computer for, otherwise I'm Apple all the way). Nothing beats high refresh gaming, especially as someone who is into sim racing and FPS.I'm done with chasing the latest GPU tech - especially as the 4xxx series is said to bring another significant increase in power consumption over the already power-hungry 3xxx series.
Therefore the Max will more than suit my casual gaming needs (together with my PS5). Let's face it: The crazy price levels prevented many people from upgrading their GPU's, so game developers will focus on lower hardware (as that's what the majority is still using for gaming), thus rarely being able to really make use of the high end GPU's even today, let alone next gen. Unless, of course, you're a hardcore enthusiast going for 4k@240Hz+ gaming![]()
I think Apple views the mini as serving the lower end desktop market and the Studio serving the high end. As much as I'd like the M1 Pro to come, I highly doubt it will be released in the mini. I think the line up will stay unchanged until the M2 in Oct/Nov.Or offering the Mac mini M1 Pro will simply be a press release/silent update on the website at some point.
I think Apple views the mini as serving the lower end desktop market and the Studio serving the high end. As much as I'd like the M1 Pro to come, I highly doubt it will be released in the mini. I think the line up will stay unchanged until the M2 in Oct/Nov.
Well... I am not at all disappointed. Dream. Machine.This thread is going to explode in disappointment tomorrow when we find out what’s actually behind the curtain.
For the most part (but not always) Apple never fails to disappoint.
And if we do like the top tier machine, guaranteed we’ll be disappointed with its price.
Ordered!![]()
I could see that as a possibility -- that they didn't want to step on the announcement of an entirely new Mac product line, which is a real rarity, by folding a spec-bumped mini into the message, and they'll make that announcement separately via the store site.Or offering the Mac mini M1 Pro will simply be a press release/silent update on the website at some point.
As a Mac "mini" though? I mean the M1 Ultra is extremely impressive, but it's not really targeting mini users. Most in this thread wanted an upgraded mini, not necessarily a new class of desktop.Well... I am not at all disappointed. Dream. Machine.
So much for the “we designed ourselves into a thermal corner” BS storyline they gave when discontinuing the trash can MacPro - then building the jaw droppingly expensive MacPro to replace it.
Now we have this new Mac Studio computer that tears the current MacPro a new one, is even smaller than the trashcan and HAS LESS VENTILATION than the trashcan did.
If I was a MacPro user, I’d feel like I was used.
One product in the lineup I think. So I guess the Mac Pro is based on the M2?I’m really gutted for those hoping for a M1 Pro. Maybe this will make its way into the new mini. I’m quite pleased with the result, although the xmac crowd are going to be unhappy with no modularity.
The interesting point was it was the last in the M1 family. Did they say one “product” left or one “lineup”?
Will the Studio Max/Ultra be as quiet as the M1 mini? I'm thinking a little bit louder
The M1 Ultra is basically two M1 Max chips fused together. That's 20 CPU cores and 64 GPU cores. So it'll definitely produce some heat.
BUT... the cooling looks beefy. Two fans and a giant enclosure.
Big fans can turn more slowly while moving the same amount of air.
I'm sure Apple took noise into consideration when designing this system. But as usual we'll have to wait for reviews.
Within the 7.7-inch-square Mac Studio enclosure lies a groundbreaking thermal system designed to let M1 Max or M1 Ultra fly through heavy workloads at screaming-fast speeds — and stay whisper quiet.
I’m really gutted for those hoping for a M1 Pro. Maybe this will make its way into the new mini. I’m quite pleased with the result, although the xmac crowd are going to be unhappy with no modularity.
The interesting point was it was the last in the M1 family. Did they say one “product” left or one “lineup”?
Well the M1 Ultra kind of fits that range but we still have an Intel Mini so either Apple is just selling those off or something else is going to step into that position.Since everyone is playing the guessing game in regards to pricing & specs, I will just roll this out again...
Mac Studio will replace the high-end 2018 Intel Mac mini, bridging the gap between the (new smaller design) Mn-series Mac mini and the full tower Mac Pro...Mac Studio will go from a base single M1 Pro SoC model all the way up to a dual M1 Max SoC model:
- Base model - 8/14, 16/512, Gigabit Ethernet, $1499
- Fully loaded model - 20/64, 128/8T, 10Gb Ethernet, $6999
Four TB4/USB4 (USB-C) ports & two USB 3.1 Gen2 (USB-A) ports on the single SoC models..Gigabit Ethernet standard on single SoC models, upgrade to 10Gb Ethernet is US$100...Six TB4/USB4 (USB-C) ports & four USB 3.1 Gen2 (USB-A) ports on the dual SoC models..Dual Gigabit Ethernet standard on dual SoC models, upgrade to dual 10Gb Ethernet is US$200...
SoC CPU P/E GPU RAM SSD Ethernet M1 Pro 8-core 6P/2E 14-core 16GB/32GB 512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TB Gigabit/10Gb M1 Pro 10-core 6P/2E 14-core 16GB/32GB 512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TB Gigabit/10Gb M1 Pro 10-core 8P/2E 16-core 16GB/32GB 512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TB Gigabit/10Gb M1 Max 10-core 8P/2E 24-core 32GB/64GB 512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TB Gigabit/10Gb M1 Max 10-core 8P/2E 32-core 32GB/64GB 512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TB Gigabit/10Gb Dual M1 Max 20-core 16P/4E 48-core 64GB/128GB 512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TB Dual Gigabit/10Gb Dual M1 Max 20-core 16P/4E 64-core 64GB/128GB 512GB/1TB/2TB/4TB/8TB Dual Gigabit/10Gb
The presenter mentioning modularity in the build up to announcing the Studio products got me excited, but then it became clear it meant pairing the computer to the display.I’m really gutted for those hoping for a M1 Pro. Maybe this will make its way into the new mini. I’m quite pleased with the result, although the xmac crowd are going to be unhappy with no modularity.
The interesting point was it was the last in the M1 family. Did they say one “product” left or one “lineup”?