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Jambalaya

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Jun 21, 2013
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Seriously? How many years does it take to upgrade basic secs like ram, had, processor etc. c'mon. It's just not a priority for them. Look how often phones get updated.
I think it's about refresh cycle, we change our phones every 12/24 months. Look at Apples comments around TV, people keep their TV's 10 years, the refresh cycle is too slow to really be of interest to Apple, working on the ATV boxes at low sticker prices is more interesting than actual TVs. For the Mini RAM we can change ourselves, discs too. its just the processor from your list. My 2009 Mini will run Yosemite so I am happy enough
 

deeddawg

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Jun 14, 2010
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new iMac and Mac mini must arrive soon [...]
well, who has another explanation for this?

Alternate explanation:
With WWDC coming up, people delayed their purchase to see if a new version was announced. This created a pool of pent up demand. With no new Mini announced, those who were waiting then placed their orders thereby selling out stock of the resellers selling on Amazon Germany.

You could see this in the available models on the US refurb store at apple.com yesterday afternoon. Several configs available before the keynote; then afterwards they sold out one by one until eventually nothing was available.

FYI, Amazon in the US doesn't sell the Mini either, it's available from third parties, but Amazon itself doesn't sell it for some reason.

Of course it's still possible there will be a silent spec change, but I believe the pent-up-demand is the more likely explanation at this time.
 

philipma1957

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Apr 13, 2010
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new iMac and Mac mini must arrive soon:

I just checked again. amazon Germany is totally out of stock of iMacs and minis (since one or two months)

my theory:
1) amazon Germany sold iMacs and minis like crazy
2) so they are the first to be out of stock
3) apple doesn't ship current iMacs and minis with German keyboard and power socket to amazon.de anymore
4) at amazon.com iMacs and minis are also dried out
4) new mini and iMacs in the coming weeks ...

well, who has another explanation for this?

I like it and I believe it June 17th the new mini drops!
 

haravikk

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May 1, 2005
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Why June 17th?
Why any other date suggested in this thread? :D

With WWDC's chance to announce hardware gone, when is the next window where Apple would normally announce hardware? Are we stuck till September or so now?
 

deeddawg

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Jun 14, 2010
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Why any other date suggested in this thread? :D

Exactly my point. ;)

With WWDC's chance to announce hardware gone, when is the next window where Apple would normally announce hardware? Are we stuck till September or so now?

Depends. A spec change and/or price drop can occur at any time, but redesigns and significant updates tend to come out at WWDC or in the Sept/Oct time-frame. Emphasis on "tend to" since Apple generally does whatever they darn well please.

So... with no announcement at WWDC, chances are there won't be a substantive change to the mini until 3Q14 earliest. They of course could do a spec update any time as they've done with the MBA's in April and rMBP in Feb 2013.

Which is why I was curious why the focus on June 17th vs. any other Tuesday. ;)
 

fastlanephil

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Nov 17, 2007
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No new Mac Mini until new iMacs so hope for new iMacs ASAP. If no new Mac Mini after new iMacs then it's time to start worrying. :eek:
 

Yvan256

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Jul 5, 2004
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If this lack of Mac mini refresh continues much longer I'm going to buy an iMac and rip out its LCD display.
 

Jambalaya

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Jun 21, 2013
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MowingDevil

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Jul 30, 2008
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I think it's about refresh cycle, we change our phones every 12/24 months. Look at Apples comments around TV, people keep their TV's 10 years, the refresh cycle is too slow to really be of interest to Apple, working on the ATV boxes at low sticker prices is more interesting than actual TVs. For the Mini RAM we can change ourselves, discs too. its just the processor from your list. My 2009 Mini will run Yosemite so I am happy enough

The way technology changes, a year would be reasonable.
 

apfelmann

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Jul 23, 2007
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Alternate explanation:
With WWDC coming up, people delayed their purchase to see if a new version was announced. This created a pool of pent up demand. With no new Mini announced, those who were waiting then placed their orders thereby selling out stock of the resellers selling on Amazon Germany.

You could see this in the available models on the US refurb store at apple.com yesterday afternoon. Several configs available before the keynote; then afterwards they sold out one by one until eventually nothing was available.

FYI, Amazon in the US doesn't sell the Mini either, it's available from third parties, but Amazon itself doesn't sell it for some reason.

Of course it's still possible there will be a silent spec change, but I believe the pent-up-demand is the more likely explanation at this time.

I am 99% sure that Amazon.com usually sells Mac minis. I remember many times when I checked for minis that it read "sold by Amazon.com". But as I said, in the last several weeks no sign at all of minis sold directly here at amazon.com or .de

In the UK amazon has low quantities in stock, but there my guess is: apple still has some minis with UK KEYBOARD and power sockets to ship. But none with US or European power sockets ...

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The thread is like the Hotel California, you can check out but you never leave

In a happier parallel universe Mac minis are updated every month!
 

deeddawg

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Jun 14, 2010
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I am 99% sure that Amazon.com usually sells Mac minis. I remember many times when I checked for minis that it read "sold by Amazon.com". But as I said, in the last several weeks no sign at all of minis sold directly here at amazon.com or .de

In the UK amazon has low quantities in stock, but there my guess is: apple still has some minis with UK KEYBOARD and power sockets to ship. But none with US or European power sockets ...

I honestly don't know Amazon's history with the mini. They're sometimes weird with stuff. It could as easily be Amazon's stock manager didn't have information on what Apple was doing and reduced stock leading up to WWDC, even letting them go to a stock-out condition.

I'm not trying to argue any particular position other than there's no real evidence of anything. Maybe Amazon knows something (or Apple is out of stock), or maybe Amazon decided to reduce stock for some reason we don't know. There are multiple logical explanations.

BTW, both the DE and UK Apple stores show shipping in 24 hours for mac minis:
http://store.apple.com/de/buy-mac/mac-mini
http://store.apple.com/uk/buy-mac/mac-mini

So at least Apple claims to have some stock... :cool:

EDIT: looks like DE store has refurb mini's still, though UK store is out as is the US.
http://store.apple.com/de/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_mini
 

Micky Do

macrumors 68020
Aug 31, 2012
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The current Mini is a bargain

I agree that the 2012 Mini "ought to be good enough for anyone" today. But if I buy a computer today I do it to run software comfortably on it in 2018-19, and the chance of that coming true would be greater on a 2014 Mini than the 2012 Mini.

Regarding Intel messing up the Broadwell timeplan, that does not change the fact that Haswell exists and Apple has chosen not to use it in the Mini.

However, I do realize that Apple has other priorities than satisfying every wish from the likes of me. The margins from selling the 2012 Mini for 2012 prices in 2014 must be pretty good. Who knows, maybe they make more money this way despite losing some customers who want current hardware.

It looks like OS X 10.10 will run on Core 2 Duo which came to the Mac Mini over five years ago, and iMac earlier. There are some apps (Aperture, for instance) for which more recent hardware is recommended, but most will run on the older models.

Based on history, a Mac you buy today should be good for several generations of OS X updates. I would not worry that the current Mini will be obsolete by 2018 - 19.

Where I am, at least, the 2012 Mac Mini is a much better deal now than it was in 2012.

Based on inflation running at about 8% where I am, it is pretty good that the current Mini is still selling at the 2012 price (19,900 baht)……

And it now comes with iWork loaded, so is ready to use, whereas previously productivity software was an added cost.

A new Mac Mini now would set me back about three week's pay, and be ready to use.

My base model 2009 Core 2 Duo Mini (23,500 baht) cost me about a month's pay with added the cost of iWork (5,000 baht). An extra 4 GB of RAM and Mountain Lion were extra costs (4,000 baht) incurred in 2012. Over 5 years old now, it will still be good to go with Yosemite.

My original 2005 Mini (26,500 baht) was more than a month's pay for just the computer, and I forget how much it was to licence the apps it came loaded with.
 
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He would be left with all the necessary componets.

You can build a custom case on your own and install the componets in it.
Even though it has a proprietary you can connect your own screen via the ports on the back!

Never saw something like that, but I image it would be awesome, great idea Yvan256 :D
Because the current iMac parts are so small, it would make a very small htpc machine.

Using a third-party cooler would also dramatically improve temperatures and silence-factor of the mac!

p.s: your links shows the 2009 model, the current is much more elegant to take apart because it has less parts: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Intel+27-Inch+EMC+2639+Teardown/17828
 

jayeskreezy

macrumors 65816
Mar 3, 2005
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+1 People are whiny. I wanted a new mac mini but I liked a lot of the software changes they made.

I'm not sure how expressing discontent was whiny, but here's my full rant. Personally, I'm never a quick adapter to Apple's software changes and tbh I could care less about the software OS as long as it WORKS. I don't need the latest and greatest software (in fact I dont even use Mavericks and I still use an early version of ios7). I'd hardly say expecting a hardware upgrade after 2 years is being whiny in the tech world.

Just because I own an Apple computer doesn't mean I'm a fangirl. Stop being sheep and allow people to have their own opinions about a company without calling them names because they disagree with your Apple worship. I've used Apple computers since the late 80s when we had Apple IIe computers in school and the reason I use them is because of the overall product.

It's a fact that Apple hasn't been the same since Jobs passed away. I guess you liked the iPhone 5c too huh? If I and others in this thread are disappointed-shut up and let us be. We're not alone-a quick google or twitter search can show you just how many people also thought it was disappointing.
 

apfelmann

macrumors 6502
Jul 23, 2007
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I'm not sure how expressing discontent was whiny, but here's my full rant. Personally, I'm never a quick adapter to Apple's software changes and tbh I could care less about the software OS as long as it WORKS. I don't need the latest and greatest software (in fact I dont even use Mavericks and I still use an early version of ios7). I'd hardly say expecting a hardware upgrade after 2 years is being whiny in the tech world.

Just because I own an Apple computer doesn't mean I'm a fangirl. Stop being sheep and allow people to have their own opinions about a company without calling them names because they disagree with your Apple worship. I've used Apple computers since the late 80s when we had Apple IIe computers in school and the reason I use them is because of the overall product.

It's a fact that Apple hasn't been the same since Jobs passed away. I guess you liked the iPhone 5c too huh? If I and others in this thread are disappointed-shut up and let us be. We're not alone-a quick google or twitter search can show you just how many people also thought it was disappointing.

TRUE!
Somehow, Tim Cook can't hide the fact, that he was and always will be a numbers guy! For example, when he thanks the developers at the beginning of the keynote, it seems what's really going through his mind is: "Thanks for all the money your apps bring into APPLE's pockets!"
 
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