The Mac Pro is going to be released (according to Apple) in December, so I think it's quite likely that we'll see a silent refresh for the Mini alongside or near its release.
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Two different animals,
Mac Mini - a consumer product that would have had its best shot of great sales if it was released in September or October. As it stands now, what will occur is that many people will return the Mini's they bought, thus mitigating any small increase in holiday sales due to the new mini. From a retail perspective there's little justification financially for rushing this out the door 2 weeks before Christmas.
nMP - a business product for professionals that costs a lot of money. Its in Apple's best interest to make this available prior to the end of the year since many businesses need to use up their budgets before their fiscal end of year (and many businesses and professionals use the calendar year as their fiscal year).
I disagree. The fact of the matter is that there will be a Mac Pro released very soon, and I see absolutely no reason why it would be better to release the Mini next year rather than alongside the Mac Pro this year.
It's not even a top seller. It's a small, niche system which if not discontinued (and I hope it isn't) will likely receive a silent refresh. And if they release it now they may pick up on some holiday sales, rather than none at all early next year.
Yep, all will be revealed soon enough.We have 10 days till Christmas and 16 days till the end of the year so only time will tell
The Mini has such a small market and niche its' survival is questionable in my opinion. I don't see it fitting Apples game plan of no consumer upgradeability.
I for one hope it will be refreshed and still be upgradeable but I do not see it being retooled.
[[ The fact of the matter is that there will be a Mac Pro released very soon, and I see absolutely no reason why it would be better to release the Mini next year rather than alongside the Mac Pro this year. ]]
What is the time frame a buyer has to return an Apple product, no-questions-asked?
Is it 30 days?
If that's the case, Apple probably is not going to introduce any new products until 30 days after December 25th.
I've been predicting on this board for a number of months now, as to when the next Mini will be released. I figure late January, more likely February some time.
What is the time frame a buyer has to return an Apple product, no-questions-asked?
Is it 30 days?
If that's the case, Apple probably is not going to introduce any new products until 30 days after December 25th.
I've been predicting on this board for a number of months now, as to when the next Mini will be released. I figure late January, more likely February some time.
The Mac Pro is a speciality computer for people in a industry which needs the computing power. If they release a Mac Mini with it it would eat into the Pro's sales, it doesn't make sense and is wishful thinking.
Cannot see it happening although I am waiting, so I strongly believe next year it is.
Cannot see it happening although I am waiting, so I strongly believe next year it is
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[QUOTE;18503740][[ The fact of the matter is that there will be a Mac Pro released very soon, and I see absolutely no reason why it would be better to release the Mini next year rather than alongside the Mac Pro this year. ]]
What is the time frame a buyer has to return an Apple product, no-questions-asked?
Is it 30 days?
If that's the case, Apple probably is not going to introduce any new products until 30 days after December 25th.
I've been predicting on this board for a number of months now, as to when the next Mini will be released. I figure late January, more likely February some time.[/QUOTE]
Again.
The 2013 iMac will probably need a Thunderbolt 2 upgrade before a new Mac Mini sees the light of day. Apple could do this with a silent update or wait until Broadwell. If Apple waits for Broadwell then the Mac Mini may not see an upgrade until new iMacs are announced. If this is the case then I would say late May 2014 at the earliest to early fall 2014.
What is the time frame a buyer has to return an Apple product, no-questions-asked?
Is it 30 days?
If that's the case, Apple probably is not going to introduce any new products until 30 days after December 25th.
I've been predicting on this board for a number of months now, as to when the next Mini will be released. I figure late January, more likely February some time.[/QUOTE]
Again.
The 2013 iMac will probably need a Thunderbolt 2 upgrade before a new Mac Mini sees the light of day. Apple could do this with a silent update or wait until Broadwell. If Apple waits for Broadwell then the Mac Mini may not see an upgrade until new iMacs are announced. If this is the case then I would say late May 2014 at the earliest to early fall 2014.
What's a consumer product and what's a professional/business product? There's no question that every Mac sold fits into both categories.... the issue is simply in what ratios they sell into those categories.
If we're looking at a spectrum across Mac desktop models, the iMac best fits into the consumer slot while the Mac Pro best fits into the professional/business slot. Anecdotal evidence suggests the mini lies somewhere in between.
As for this notion a simultaneous nMP and mini release could harm nMP sales, it doesn't make too much sense, IMHO. If a buyer opts out of a computer that costs anywhere from three to 10 times the other then they really didn't need or were considering the higher priced one anyway.
maflynn's argument isn't wrong; it was just not expressed with perfect clarity. The Mac mini (like most Apple products) is a consumer electronics item and ipso facto will not be released during the peak holiday shopping season because that would be disruptive to sales. The Mac Pro is not a consumer electronics item, so it can be released during the peak holiday shopping season -- though it seems likely that the December release will be nominal, with serious availability only in early 2014. We'll see.
Rubbish.
We have 10 days till Christmas and 16 days till the end of the year so only time will tell
Apple will redesign the Mac Mini. This is the reason of the existing delay. Iris Pro + Haswell processors may appear in the new Mac Mini between Q1 and Q2 2014.
We should calm down and wait...
The only problem...it won't be cheaper...
The Mini isn't just a consumer product; it's also Apple's only server. And as has been revealed, companies developing iOS apps oftentimes have hundreds of racked Minis, such as Facebook, although the exact numbers and how many companies do this is unknown, but it's feasible this use case of the Mini is not insubstantial. The Mini is oddly enough a decent server because of it's form factor relative to all other Mac options which use up much more space.
In other words, the Server Mini and the Mac Pro do not actually overlap markets; the new Mac Pro is more about rendering than networking, and isn't actually competitive from a compute/dollar standpoint, nor a size standpoint. Four $1200 Minis (the inevitable high end i7 option) will likely have significantly more compute resources in total (something like 14,000 x 4 on Geekbench, around 56,000 total) compared to one Mac Pro (over 33,000).
In other words, the Server Mini and the Mac Pro do not actually overlap markets; the new Mac Pro is more about rendering than networking, and isn't actually competitive from a compute/dollar standpoint, nor a size standpoint. Four $1200 Minis (the inevitable high end i7 option) will likely have significantly more compute resources in total (something like 14,000 x 4 on Geekbench, around 56,000 total) compared to one Mac Pro (over 33,000).
If anyone can do it... it's Apple LOL.
But I think it's a valuable part of the Mac lineup. It's the lowest cost, and also flexible in the sense you can add your own peripherals and displays.
If market size is the key factor for survivability, there wouldn't be a nMP coming out. And considering the mini's market segments go much beyond consumers, Apple almost has to keep upgrade-ability in the mini's design. The spectrum of mini buyers is quite a bit different than the iMac or any of the MBPs.
I want the Mini refresh too. I am far from an expert on Apple. I hope it happens real soon and its upgradeable. If it is that important of a tool for servers and app developers it will be around for a long time. I don't think the consumer market is that strong for them but what the heck do I know. I'm just a retired old man. I retract my earlier statement.
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And one other thing. If it is that important for servers and app developers wouldn't that make it more of a business machine and therefor could be refreshed with the nPro? Only wishful thinking.
So how about that new Mac mini? I trusted you, now I can never trust randoms on the internet ever again!
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2013/12/18/apples-new-mac-pro-will-available-order-tomorrow-priced-2999/
Mac Pro has released for taking order but no sign of Mac Mini's refresh
Mac Pro has released for taking order but no sign of Mac Mini's refresh
