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So... an M2 Pro Mac (mini) with 32 GB of RAM from $1699.

Who would than buy the base Mac Studio? Why would you pay $300 for almost the same specs?
The same type of user that would go from m1 Pro to m1 Max on a MacBook Pro. More GPU cores, more I/O (especially more supported 5k/6k displays).
 
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Yes, I reckon we're more likely to get an M2 Pro Studio than we are an M2 Pro mini.

An M2 Pro mini would be enough computer for most and would put people off of buying an M2 Max Studio, whereas an M2 Pro Studio will encourage people to pay a few extra hundred over a fully loaded M2 mini.
If a Mac Studio with the M2 Pro, 32 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD costs around $1600, I'd definitely consider buying that.
 
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So... an M2 Pro Mac (mini) with 32 GB of RAM from $1699.

Who would than buy the base Mac Studio? Why would you pay $300 for almost the same specs?

While the M2 has more memory bandwidth than the M1, it's still half that of the M1 Pro and one-quarter that of the M1 Max.

I expect the M2 Max to maintain the 2x bandwidth of the M2 Pro, and if you need a lot of memory, you might benefit from a lot of memory bandwidth, as well, in which case the base M2 Max Studio might be the better option.

And if Apple keeps the current mini case, the Studio offers twice as many TB4 ports, plus two USB4 ports.
 
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If a Mac Studio with the M2 Pro, 32 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD costs around $1600, I'd definitely consider buying that.
Not gonna happen. Judging by both Mac mini and Mac Studio pricing, that's far too cheap for Apple in 2022.

$1900 - Intel Mac mini Core i5 4.1 GHz with 32 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD
$2200 - AS Mac Studio M1 Max 10/24 with 32 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD
 
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If a Mac Studio with the M2 Pro, 32 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD costs around $1600, I'd definitely consider buying that.

Apple want 200 to go from a top m1 pro the entry m1 max which is the same price as they want to go from 512 to 1tb for storage.

so basically would be the same price as entry level Mac studio.

so would be looking at 1999 still.

as Apple seems tohave increased pricing with m2 over the m1 then 1600 seems unlikely, unless also looking at being prepared to drop to one of the lower spec pro So.
 
Actually if you think about it that $200 is the difference between 8GB and 16GB while $400 is the difference between 16GB and 32GB.

Actually what? The "difference between" 32GB and 16GB is 16GB... therefore 16GB costs $400. And we were talking about the price savings from dropping from 32GB to 16GB, which again is $400 not $200 as the post I quoted said.
Apple is using high quality LPDDR5 RAM and like its "cousin" DDR5 RAM that is not cheap RAM.
It's not cheap sure, but it's nowhere close to $200 per 8GB. You can get 8GB for $56 and I'd guess Apple is paying even less than that. They are making insane profit on RAM upgrades. They could cut the cost in half and still make an incredibly healthy profit.
 
If a Mac Studio with the M2 Pro, 32 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD costs around $1600, I'd definitely consider buying that.
Wishful thinking sadly, too many people on this forum not paying attention to Apple pricing policy and just printing what they’d like to pay rather than checking out the research done by others.

It’s mentioned further up the thread but a non binned M1 pro is $200 less than the binned M1 max.

So your imaginary spec with 1tb storage would still be $2000. No more discussion required.
 
Gurman says the M2 and M2 Pro minis are coming before the end of the year in hid latest newsletter. Let’s hope he is right this time…. Very interested to see how the prices stack up versus the Mac Studio.
 
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It's not cheap sure, but it's nowhere close to $200 per 8GB. You can get 8GB for $56 and I'd guess Apple is paying even less than that.
That is assuming Apple is getting its LPDDR5 RAM from Micron which is unlikely given the M1 used a 4266 MT/s LPDDR4X SDRAM via a 128bit bus while the MT62F1G64D8CH-031 WT:B TR you presented uses a 64 bit bus. Apple is likely using the same type of bus (128-bit) with its LPDDR5 which form what has been teased out seems to be from Samsung.

Also how big is Micron's LPDDR5? The reference images is huge looking.
 
That is assuming Apple is getting its LPDDR5 RAM from Micron which is unlikely given the M1 used a 4266 MT/s LPDDR4X SDRAM via a 128bit bus while the MT62F1G64D8CH-031 WT:B TR you presented uses a 64 bit bus. Apple is likely using the same type of bus (128-bit) with its LPDDR5 which form what has been teased out seems to be from Samsung.

Also how big is Micron's LPDDR5? The reference images is huge looking.
They use 2 chips, 2x 64 is 128.
 
Either way price increases in the UK are likely again.
Yup, especially after today.


The pound has fallen to a record low against the dollar as markets react to the UK's biggest tax cuts in 50 years.
In early Asia trade, sterling fell close to $1.03 before regaining some ground to stand at about $1.07 on Monday morning, UK time.


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Good luck, my British friends...

On a selfish personal note, here's hoping prices stay the same in Canada, with the M2 replacing the M1, instead of the M2 becoming a higher tier model.
 
Yup, especially after today.


The pound has fallen to a record low against the dollar as markets react to the UK's biggest tax cuts in 50 years.
In early Asia trade, sterling fell close to $1.03 before regaining some ground to stand at about $1.07 on Monday morning, UK time.


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Good luck, my British friends...

On a selfish personal note, here's hoping prices stay the same in Canada, with the M2 replacing the M1, instead of the M2 becoming a higher tier model.
At this rate, the Mac Studio will be cheaper than the M2 Pro mini (if it comes out soon). That'd make my mind up for me.
 
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On a selfish personal note, here's hoping prices stay the same in Canada, with the M2 replacing the M1, instead of the M2 becoming a higher tier model.
Hmm... Maybe Apple will raise prices 5% in Canada. 0% would be good, but I'm not optimistic. I'm hoping it's not 10% though.

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That 20% UKP drop is eye opening, and it doesn't even include the last few days.
 
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At this rate, the Mac Studio will be cheaper than the M2 Pro mini (if it comes out soon). That'd make my mind up for me.
If the Mac Studio gets updated with M2-series chips as well, it all matters which one with 32 GB of unified memory and a 1 TB SSD costs more before I make my decision. As long as it's somewhere between the M2 Pro-Max and has the specs I mentioned, that's all I need.
 
What does "binned" mean in this context?
There are 3 M1 Pro SoC

8 CPU/14 GPU
10 CPU/14 GPU
10 CPU/16 GPU

The Max comes as

10 CPU/24 GPU
10 CPU/32 GPU

People are referring to the 10/24 Max as Binned and the 10/32 as the Non-Binned.

So is a Binned Max 10/24 to a nob-binned 10/16 Pro is what referring to
 
So Gurman is now saying that Apple may not hold an October event, instead releasing all the new product via Press Release.

If everything is just getting a mild refresh via SoC upgrade and no new features, this makes sense as there is no reason for press to fly out to Apple Park just to see the same thing, visually.

IMO, it also implies that Apple is only going to bump the current Mac mini from M1 to M2 and keep the same chassis.

 
So Gurman is now saying that Apple may not hold an October event, instead releasing all the new product via Press Release.

If everything is just getting a mild refresh via SoC upgrade and no new features, this makes sense as there is no reason for press to fly out to Apple Park just to see the same thing, visually.

IMO, it also implies that Apple is only going to bump the current Mac mini from M1 to M2 and keep the same chassis.
I hope you're wrong, but the pessimist in me says you're probably right. :confused:
 
At this rate, the Mac Studio will be cheaper than the M2 Pro mini (if it comes out soon). That'd make my mind up for me.
Well, bear in mind that Apple could just re-align prices on ALL products at the next Mac event. They did this in 2016 after the Brexit vote in the UK when iMacs noticeably went up 20% with no spec bump.

If Apple are looking at last minute pricing policy having looked at like FX rates for the next 12 months they may well have decided to bump the price of everything in the UK and possibly in the Eurozone too.

It's going to become obvious that they will have to do this because they can't have an M2 mini be more expensive than a Mac Studio when specs are levelled up as best as they can be.

So Gurman is now saying that Apple may not hold an October event, instead releasing all the new product via Press Release.

If everything is just getting a mild refresh via SoC upgrade and no new features, this makes sense as there is no reason for press to fly out to Apple Park just to see the same thing, visually.

IMO, it also implies that Apple is only going to bump the current Mac mini from M1 to M2 and keep the same chassis.
There may still be an Apple event if they decide to showcase the Mac Pro (or Mac Ultra as that appears to be becoming the top of the range parlance for Apple lately).

In that case they would do all the presentation stuff for the shiny new product and then immediately afterwards they then do a press release for everything else. It would be the kind of event where Apple name their price for the new top of the range. I would expect the range re-pricing to then occur.
 
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Seems like the US dollar is holding well, while European currencies are continuing to weaken. Seems like Apple products are going to get really expensive in Europe going forward..not good.
 
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