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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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More like the current Mac mini with more CPU and GPU cores and option for more RAM.
We all wished for better result and better Mac Mini so as a result we wished for separate event. Trust me, you wouldn't want Mac Mini updated today as it wouldn't be any good. They would just slap M2 in and probably hiked the price a little bit.
What we want is Mac Mini with M2 Pro
What we want is Mac Mini with M2 Pro
We do, but as mentioned before, if the only memory options for the M2 Pro are 16 GB and 32 GB, I'd probably buy the 24 GB M2 (or possibly even the 16 GB M2). Actually, lately I've been thinking I may just get the M2 anyway.
I'd be skeptical about there being a M2 Pro version of the Mac Mini. Heck, with today's announcement we're still waiting for a regular M2 Mini.
Short answer, though: half the point of having a M2 Pro over a regular M2 is the support for extra ports & more than one display over TB4/USB-C. It would be disappointing not to have at least 1 extra TB port (which would then qualify as TB4 by supporting dual displays).
If you try and guess the pricing: looking at a MBP 14" the difference from the base 16GB M1 Pro to the 32GB (compulsory) M1 Max is $900 ($400 of which is the "compulsory" RAM upgrade) - so, take $900 from the $2000 M1 Max studio and you get a M1 Pro Mini/Studio for $1100 - i.e. the same price as the current Intel i5 Mini which used to be the "better" Intel Mini. I wouldn't take that to the bank - but a M2 Pro Studio in the sub-$1500 range wouldn't be too implausible.
However, I'd repeat that the 2014 Mac mini went without updates for 4 years - and the 14/16" MBPs are the more important/bigger selling product for Apple & will be first in line for any M2 Pro/Max chips - so don't hold your breath for any new Mini.
Gurman said Mac Mini Pro is coming and he is very accurate. Heck, he even gave us everything for today so I almost take it for granted.
Next month (or possibly next wee) we get another press release depending on if they bundle it with Mac Pro or not. Remain to be seen
Next month (or possibly next wee) we get another press release depending on if they bundle it with Mac Pro or not. Remain to be seen
The problem we will face is the pricing. I've tested 16MBP M1 Pro with 16GB and realised that 16GB is just not enough for me. So 24GB or better 32GB but if the price of the upgrade is too much then yeah, we are in the studio territory.
OTOH, if M2 Studio is coming in spring then one might as well wait for that. So its all about pricing. Nothing more.
OTOH, if M2 Studio is coming in spring then one might as well wait for that. So its all about pricing. Nothing more.
P.s.: I hope we will get bigger screen than the lousy 27" studio disaster.
Honestly, all I would love is the old 30" Cinema Display with smaller bezels and bumped resolution. That screen was absolutely amazing and design was stunning. Hold it really well.
So give us 30" Cinema Display for the masses and then update the 32" XDR for the top users and all happy.
Current 27" Studio Display is very poor value.
Honestly, all I would love is the old 30" Cinema Display with smaller bezels and bumped resolution. That screen was absolutely amazing and design was stunning. Hold it really well.
So give us 30" Cinema Display for the masses and then update the 32" XDR for the top users and all happy.
Current 27" Studio Display is very poor value.
To be fair, Gurman has been saying the refreshed pro Macs come next month.
Yes, I plan on using a 30" Cinema Display with the M2 / M2 Pro Mac mini. I love its pixel density of 100.6 ppi, so a 201 ppi Retina version would be perfect. Apple's current choice of 218 ppi is OK, but not my preference.
The Apple Silicon Macs don't have USB drivers for brightness control of these monitors, but fortunately, people have gotten around that with MonitorControl. Hopefully that works fine with the M2 / M2 Pro Mac minis.
Well well well.... The iPad Pro 12in went up £250 (25%) in the UK (the iPhone was essentially the same price pre-increase (£950) and that went up £150). Absolute joke. I have no hope for a well-priced M2 Pro mini. It'll be £2,000 and the studio will go to £2,500.
In the US, yes. For non-US markets, probably not (see below).
I expect a fair bit of that is Apple adjusting the currency exchange rate to take into account the GBP losing around 20% of it's value against the Dollar over the past year.
Absolutely that is the reason, but that doesn't help Europeans who are seeing prices rocketing for new Apple products with almost zero benefit over the previous versions (M2 vs M1, iPads, somewhat iPhones). Why upgrade or buy the new product? There isn't a good reason to.
Fair points. I was considering replacing my 2018 12.9" with the M1 model last week when Amazon put it on sale for $300 off because even if Apple held the line on the M2's price, it wasn't worth the $300. Also why I bought the 2021 AppleTV 4K a few weeks ago when it was $80 off even with the new model released today rumored to drop at the time.
@gusping - I don't know all that much about iPads, but are those M2's purely a new chip and no redesign in there, or is there more to it in terms of a redesign?
The reason I ask is that I noticed there was a £250 difference between the M1 and M2 Macbook Air's which naturally had that full redesign included. With no redesign, I wonder what the bump will be for M2. Naturally, you then have to factor in that these machines are the base spec (8gb/256 storage etc) and upgrading to 1TB/16GB is £600, and the potential 1TB/24TB with M2 would add £800 to your bill.
So with M2 on board, that would take the current Mini to £949 at base spec, so a somewhat common upgrade (that I've seen mentioned here) would go up to to 1TB/16GB - and that would set you back £1,549, with the full 24GB being £1,749. Much like the M2 Macbooks and the M1 Macbook Pros, that does bring you somewhat close to the £1,999 starting price of the Studio. I'm not a pricing expert, nor do I know what Apple are shooting for here, so this is just an observation on what the uptick might be when it eventually comes.
The reason I ask is that I noticed there was a £250 difference between the M1 and M2 Macbook Air's which naturally had that full redesign included. With no redesign, I wonder what the bump will be for M2. Naturally, you then have to factor in that these machines are the base spec (8gb/256 storage etc) and upgrading to 1TB/16GB is £600, and the potential 1TB/24TB with M2 would add £800 to your bill.
So with M2 on board, that would take the current Mini to £949 at base spec, so a somewhat common upgrade (that I've seen mentioned here) would go up to to 1TB/16GB - and that would set you back £1,549, with the full 24GB being £1,749. Much like the M2 Macbooks and the M1 Macbook Pros, that does bring you somewhat close to the £1,999 starting price of the Studio. I'm not a pricing expert, nor do I know what Apple are shooting for here, so this is just an observation on what the uptick might be when it eventually comes.
I will be keeping my 2018 12.9 Pro until at least 2024 when the rumoured OLED iPads hopefully launch. I suspect it'll be £1,500, in which case I may just run my iPad into the ground. It's just a glorified web browser to me anyway.
The pricing does make me revisit my Mac upgrade choice. 1) Keep my 2018 i7 mini for another 1-2 years, 2) buy the studio for £2k before the price changes, or 3) run the mini into the ground and switch to my gaming pc full time (any excuse to get that 4090). Decision decisions...
It's the same iPad just with the M2 chip and wifi 6E. Same display and camera hardware. The iPad does detect the Apple Pencil when it is with 12mm of the display now, whatever that's worth (nothing I suspect).
I'm running a 2017 iPad Pro, and I too will wait until OLED arrives. Plus it will likely get a landscape camera, and function keys on the keyboard. Ironically, the 10th generation iPad has both the landscape camera and the function keys on the keyboard.
I chose to do much the same.
If you plan to stay with macOS, I'd buy the Studio while it is "cheap", frankly.
At the moment my 2020 iMac 5K is the perfect machine for my macOS and Windows needs, but when it comes time to get a dedicated Windows machine for work and a dedicated Mac for everything else, I am going Mac Studio.
Similar boat. I’d like a Mini or an iMac and I’ve got a little time so was keeping an eye on what the situation with M2 is. It’s replacing an (almost) run into the ground Air for hobbyist music production. To your point I would be tempted with M1 if the upgrade for audio isn’t that much. I heard the M2 does have some fancy bits and pieces that are good for graphics. The main thing is that faster processors & more ram can be useful for sample libraries. Hmmm…
Main upgrade on M1 -> M2 is better GPU performance (40-45% increase iirc). CPU is circa 11% single core, nearer 20% multicore. Not much in it, especially if for a hobby.