ROFL. I installed my new dishwasher last month. Bosch if your curious. It took me almost a week to figure out how to block it from talking to Mother. But maybe I should have never given it the pw to the WAP.
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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I know, right. I saw that "WiFi enabled" bit on the ad, and the first thing I thought if is they are going to find some reason to charge a monthly fee or just brick it after five years like my printer.
It's a big negative for me. What benefit is a dishwasher connecting to the internet anyway?
It's a big negative for me. What benefit is a dishwasher connecting to the internet anyway?
One thing I was curious about there’s no way to tell the m4 & m4 pro apart by looking at them outside , nothing says m4 pro
Going by this comparison video at 4:40
In the distant future when buying used,it might get confusing
With the m2 & m2 pro mini you can tell by the ports in the back
Unless the video is incorrect
Going by this comparison video at 4:40
In the distant future when buying used,it might get confusing
With the m2 & m2 pro mini you can tell by the ports in the back
Unless the video is incorrect
M4 vs. M4 Pro
The guy said the M4 Pro feels slightly heavier, but otherwise they are exactly the same.
This has always been the case with the Intel Mac mini as well, they're all the same design.
If anybody needs a thunderbolt 4 hub ,Newegg on eBay has one for $58
3 Thunderbolt 4 ports and one usb A port
Most of the ones I’ve seen are over $100 , either this is a good deal or this hub sucks
I ordered one
3 Thunderbolt 4 ports and one usb A port
Kensington SD2600T Thunderbolt 4 Hub K34036NA | eBay
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Most of the ones I’ve seen are over $100 , either this is a good deal or this hub sucks
I ordered one
Anyhow, this is a better view of the bottom. They both just say "Mac mini".
Interesting. That's pretty cheap. It has the same list of ports, and the layout is similar to many of the others like my Plugable, but is a bit more different than the others. It should be noted that the others with the common layout are all based on the Intel reference design. This one may be a different design, but could also be based on the Intel design, so whether it sucks or not remains to be seen. Mind you, mine came with an HDMI dongle, and I bought mine 2 years ago. Glad to see prices declining.If anybody needs a thunderbolt 4 hub ,Newegg on eBay has one for $58
3 Thunderbolt 4 ports and one usb A port
Kensington SD2600T Thunderbolt 4 Hub K34036NA | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Kensington SD2600T Thunderbolt 4 Hub K34036NA at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!www.ebay.com
Most of the ones I’ve seen are over $100 , either this is a good deal or this hub sucks
I ordered one
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No, on Intels the ports were identical. The different ports is something Apple started with the Apple Silicon models. IMO it was a little silly to have different numbers of ports for different models, good riddance.
I plan to put the hub under my desk ,so ports front and back don’t bother me, but “Intel design” ? Is that bad ? Are there apple silicon design hubs ?
Yes you are correct. I was confused by the Apple Silicon ones.
No. "Intel Reference Design" was good, because it was designed by Intel itself to use its own chipset. This ensured maximum compatibility and consistency.
There is no such thing as an Apple Silicon external Thunderbolt 4 hub. However, other companies do make other chipsets.
120+ USB4 / Thunderbolt 4 Hubs & Docks compared (January 2024)
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Here are some comments from that article about these hubs on Macs:
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MacOS lacks support for multi stream transport (MST), so many docks will only work with 1-2 distinct monitor outputs even if there are 3+ monitor ports. And in many cases, you’ll need at least one of the monitors connected to a TB4/USB4 port rather than HDMI or DP. Some docks include DisplayLink-powered HDMI and DP which will work OK on Mac, but with added lag/latency.
Mac systems tend to work better with PCIe-based Ethernet from Intel and Aquantia/Marvell rather than USB-based solutions from RealTek and ASIX. More info: https://khronokernel.github.io/macos/2021/11/22/PCIE-ETHERNET.html
In the past, MacOS implemented device certification checks via hard-coded lists in the IOThunderboltFamily kernel extension which disabled features on uncertified docking stations. Apple updates the lists via MacOS updates – so if you ever have issues with a Dock, you may need to update to the very latest MacOS revision and latest dock firmware. Some uncertified devices may not have full functionality unless console commands are entered manually.
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Anyone with M4 Mac Mini 24gb - could you please run Cinebench benchmarks pls (CPU, GPU etc) and Geekbench GPU (OpenCl, Metal)? I've returned mine and now I have M4 Pro 24gb so would like to see the difference.
Would greatly appreciate it. Thank you
Would greatly appreciate it. Thank you
I got the hub today, and all I can say is that is working fine with the M4 Pro, I decided to put the hub on my desk instead of under and I hate that I have to bend the Thunderbolt cable, I understand they made this hub and most hubs with laptops in mind but I hate that the host port is in the front.If anybody needs a thunderbolt 4 hub ,Newegg on eBay has one for $58
3 Thunderbolt 4 ports and one usb A port
Kensington SD2600T Thunderbolt 4 Hub K34036NA | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Kensington SD2600T Thunderbolt 4 Hub K34036NA at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!www.ebay.com
Most of the ones I’ve seen are over $100 , either this is a good deal or this hub sucks
I ordered one
Heh. I cleaned up my desk, reorganized my files, consolidated my drives and tested my system, and it's absolutely clear I do NOT need to upgrade my M1 16 GB Mac mini. Here is my memory usage with a typical set of apps open:
Sometimes I do multitask more with a bit more compressed memory usage, but it's really uncommon for me to see a swap file of any significant size, unless I'm doing something out of the ordinary for me.
So, the new Mac mini is just a case of want, not need. But that's OK. My M4 24 GB 10 GbE is coming tomorrow!
Sometimes I do multitask more with a bit more compressed memory usage, but it's really uncommon for me to see a swap file of any significant size, unless I'm doing something out of the ordinary for me.
So, the new Mac mini is just a case of want, not need. But that's OK. My M4 24 GB 10 GbE is coming tomorrow!
I think I'll go for M4 24gb 256gb too. Tried the base M4 and now I have M4 Pro and I'm just disappointed with the M4 Pro to be honest. Loud in some cases, expensive in other so the value is truly with the base M4 model.
Will test the M4 Pro for few more weeks to see if I really need it but most likely its going back.
Funny as I originally wanted M3 Mac Studio Max. Kinda saved myself a lot of money here
Will test the M4 Pro for few more weeks to see if I really need it but most likely its going back.
Funny as I originally wanted M3 Mac Studio Max. Kinda saved myself a lot of money here
Heh. I cleaned up my desk, reorganized my files, consolidated my drives and tested my system, and it's absolutely clear I do NOT need to upgrade my M1 16 GB Mac mini. Here is my memory usage with a typical set of apps open:
View attachment 2449556
Sometimes I do multitask more with a bit more compressed memory usage, but it's really uncommon for me to see a swap file of any significant size, unless I'm doing something out of the ordinary for me.
So, the new Mac mini is just a case of want, not need. But that's OK. My M4 24 GB 10 GbE is coming tomorrow!
I 'needed' the base model.Heh. I cleaned up my desk, reorganized my files, consolidated my drives and tested my system, and it's absolutely clear I do NOT need to upgrade my M1 16 GB Mac mini. Here is my memory usage with a typical set of apps open:
View attachment 2449556
Sometimes I do multitask more with a bit more compressed memory usage, but it's really uncommon for me to see a swap file of any significant size, unless I'm doing something out of the ordinary for me.
So, the new Mac mini is just a case of want, not need. But that's OK. My M4 24 GB 10 GbE is coming tomorrow!
256 wouldn’t cut it for me. I’m already over 200 GB on the M1. I suppose I could move some more stuff around but it’d be compromising too much so I went with 512 GB.I think I'll go for M4 24gb 256gb too. Tried the base M4 and now I have M4 Pro and I'm just disappointed with the M4 Pro to be honest. Loud in some cases, expensive in other so the value is truly with the base M4 model.
Will test the M4 Pro for few more weeks to see if I really need it but most likely its going back.
Funny as I originally wanted M3 Mac Studio Max. Kinda saved myself a lot of money here
This show you don't need more RAM, but only you can tell if you need a faster machine. Depending on how you use your machine, the 10 GbE might make the biggest difference.Heh. I cleaned up my desk, reorganized my files, consolidated my drives and tested my system, and it's absolutely clear I do NOT need to upgrade my M1 16 GB Mac mini. Here is my memory usage with a typical set of apps open:
View attachment 2449556
Sometimes I do multitask more with a bit more compressed memory usage, but it's really uncommon for me to see a swap file of any significant size, unless I'm doing something out of the ordinary for me.
So, the new Mac mini is just a case of want, not need. But that's OK. My M4 24 GB 10 GbE is coming tomorrow!
To be honest, I don't need more speed either.
I thought I'd get into some very basic video editing, but I ended up getting LumaFusion for M4 iPad Pro instead so I've done it on that, and it turns out I don't use it much anyway. For other stuff like OS navigation, surfing, various other apps, My M4 iPad Pro sometimes seems a touch faster than this M1 Mac mini, but the experience is actually pretty close speed-wise overall IMO. I'd guess if the M4 is a 9.5 for that stuff, the M1 is still an 8.5.As for 10 GbE, my network is actually only Gigabit, but I've separated one Ethernet run from my modem which can be used to directly access the modem with my 1.5 Gbps cable internet service (which actually sees 1.9 Gbps at the modem). My current NAS is Gigabit-only too, but I don't use my NAS much either these days, since I just use external SSDs for my data now. Truthfully I would be totally fine with 1 Gbps down for internet service. More useful to me could be faster uploads since I use iCloud, but my current cable residential internet service maxes out at 50 Mbps.
(200 Mbps is available to business users, but the cost is extremely high.) A competing provider has fibre with 1.5 Gbps down / 940 Mbps up, but we also have TV and I hate the way their TV service is setup so I've stayed away for now.An another note, I'm curious if Apple has fixed the memory leak in Photos. I had this problem where if I tried to export the entire Photos Library (which is nearly 700 GB), it'd use up the RAM and then eventually crash. I don't think having more RAM here would have helped, because it used way, way more RAM than that. If they fixed it though, I'm sure a 16 GB machine would be totally fine. (There are third party apps that can do this function without using much memory.)
Even for me. I need at least 3TB but I refuse to pay Apple’s prices so I’ll get external.
Same here. Thunderbolt 4 / USB 4 enclosure ordered. I'm waiting for a sale on a decent 4 TB SSD, but luckily Black Friday is coming soon. In the meantime I have my 2 TB Samsung T7 Shield.