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In this article, I learned that: "The 2012 iMac, Mac mini, MacBook Air and Retina MacBook Pros all use the same custom SATA+power connector on their SSDs." The Apple SSD modules look more like an m.2 stick than the 2.5" retail SATA SSDs we're used to seeing, and back then they were using either a Samsung 830PM or something by Toshiba. I was completely wrong about them being Crucial M4 SSDs.

When you look at the disk info (open Disk Utility, select SSD, click Info button), do you see a TS or SM prefix?

Took a look and I see the SM prefix, specifically APPLE SSD SM256E Media, SATA.
 
After that POS iMac just came out, which nobody wants, and nobody cares about, it is very clear that the Mini is dead. Apl ju$t doesn't care about it.


Such snakiness is not really called for.

Few have the use for, and not everybody wants a car that has a huge supercharged V8 engine that can do zero to hero in the blink of an eye.

Likewise with computers. Only a few have a need for, and not everybody wants, state of the art specs to brag about.

The new, cheaper and lower performing iMac is probably all the computer that the average Joe or Jill needs. It's technology is current, and likely good for a lifetime of several years for the market segment that it is aims at, where bells and whistles and upgradability are irrelevant. They want something that looks the business, and just works.

No one has any clue right now, but I will say again that going any enclosure that is smaller than what the Mini is today is pointless. It's a desktop, not a laptop or an iOS device. Portability is not necessary. Size is only an issue when you take it from the old tower enclosure to the current size & you are trying to free up desk space or under-desk space. The current size is ideal as it can be placed anywhere & is not obtrusive at all.

If they make the Mini the size of the ATV hockey puck, upgradability will be gone because they would have to solder everything on the board.

While day to day portability is not necessary, for me (and no doubt many others) occasional transportability is important. It was the reason I got the original Mac Mini (base model) when it hit the market in 2005. It was the reason I got my second in 2009 (also base model, but increased the RAM to load Mountain Lion). And it will be the reason I get another (probably base model) in due course.

My Mini only takes a minute or to disconnect. Thrown in a backpack, it is more rugged and convenient to transport than most laptops. Then it takes only a couple of minutes to set up with a projector or any spare monitor at work.

The new Mac Pro would work for me on the transportability criteria, but I do not need that much grunt. I have neither the budget, need, nor desire to own one.

An iMac, in any form, doesn't cut it.
 
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Such snakiness is not really called for.

Few have the use for, and not everybody wants a car that has a huge supercharged V8 engine that can do zero to hero in the blink of an eye.

Likewise with computers. Only a few have a need for, and not everybody wants, state of the art specs to brag about.

The new, cheaper and lower performing iMac is probably all the computer that the average Joe or Jill needs. It's technology is current, and likely good for a lifetime of several years for the market segment that it is aims at, where bells and whistles and upgradability are irrelevant. They want something that looks the business, and just works.



While day to day portability is not necessary, for me (and no doubt many others) occasional transportability is important. It was the reason I got the original Mac Mini (base model) when it hit the market in 2005. It was the reason I got my second in 2009 (also base model, but increased the RAM to load Mountain Lion). And it will be the reason I get another (probably base model) in due course.

My Mini only takes a minute or to disconnect. Thrown in a backpack, it is more rugged and convenient to transport than most laptops. Then it takes only a couple of minutes to set up with a projector or any spare monitor at work.

The new Mac Pro would work for me on the transportability criteria, but i do not need all its grunt. I have neither the budget, need, nor desire to own one.

An iMac, in any form, doesn't cut it.

when more people have 4k screens Apple will need better cpu/gpu desktops.

very late 2014 or 2015 . is more like Apple's plan.
 
I really think that the mac mini will see a new design in october release and will be again the most less energy hunger at idle

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Apple still has " Energy Efficiency
Mac mini is still the world’s most energy‑efficient
desktop computer." But i know since haswell update the the imac is now
 
If it had been around in 2005 I would have had a decision to make, choosing between the HP Mini and the Mac Mini for my first computer.

Now, OS X just works for me, and that's that.

too bad.

And believe me I really prefer apple, but the game has become windows 7 and mac osx in my house. As I have must do work in windows 7.

My house was 100% mac from 2002 to 2011
 
Hey there is a Mini coming, only it's from Hewlett Packard:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/elite-products/elitedesk-800-mini.html

You can even get it with Windows 7! That's like Apple offering Snow Leopard.

We have some EliteDesk 800s at work. They can be had with up to Haswell 3.4 i7 quads, support 32GB RAM, have four USB2 and four USB3 ports, three-year warranty and HD 4400. Depending on the case they have various configurations of PCIe. I've been looking at them for a while. So far my 2012 mini has been a great W8.1.1 machine.
 
We have some EliteDesk 800s at work. They can be had with up to Haswell 3.4 i7 quads, support 32GB RAM, have four USB2 and four USB3 ports, three-year warranty and HD 4400. Depending on the case they have various configurations of PCIe. I've been looking at them for a while. So far my 2012 mini has been a great W8.1.1 machine.
Hmm,

Certainly intriguing, sounds like a config that Apple would do well to emulate.

How's the 4400? I'm still a big fan of discrete GPUs, but I know there are limitations in this kind of a machine.
 
Hmm,

Certainly intriguing, sounds like a config that Apple would do well to emulate.

How's the 4400? I'm still a big fan of discrete GPUs, but I know there are limitations in this kind of a machine.

4400 will do ok graphics with just a step above 4000. It will not do graphics for
UHD of the future so you would be buying 1 year old technology as opposed to 2 year old technology of the current Mini.
 
What, and miss out on your versions? You can do the songs, go for it! I can't be the only one with a bad brain ^d^d^d^d^d^d^d creative bent. I will offer this:

You picked a fine time to leave me Tim Cook
'Cause I need to replace
My G4 PowerBook
I want me a Mini
But I can't get any
By Apple I have been forsook
You picked a fine time to leave me Tim Cook.

OK, against my better judgment if I had any, to the tune of George Benson's "On Broadway:"

"On Broadwell"

They say the mini may not come till Broadwell
(or Skylake)
They say the 2012 will do just fine
But when you want to fly X-plane
Those HD graphics are just lame
You turn the settings down till you’re nowhere

They say the mini will be great on Broadwell
(or Skylake)
But waiting so long just gives me the blues
Cause how ya gonna take that ridge
When all you got is Ivy Bridge
And i5 Ivy Bridge won’t even hyperthread

They say that I won’t wait so long for Broadwell
(or Skylake)
I’ll build a gaming PC, they all say
But they’re dead wrong, I know they are
I can’t even make an avatar
And I won’t quit till I’m a star on Broadwell
(or Skylake)
 
OK, against my better judgment if I had any, to the tune of George Benson's "On Broadway:"

"On Broadwell"

They say the mini may not come till Broadwell
(or Skylake)
They say the 2012 will do just fine
But when you want to fly X-plane
Those HD graphics are just lame
You turn the settings down till you’re nowhere

They say the mini will be great on Broadwell
(or Skylake)
But waiting so long just gives me the blues
Cause how ya gonna take that ridge
When all you got is Ivy Bridge
And i5 Ivy Bridge won’t even hyperthread

They say that I won’t wait so long for Broadwell
(or Skylake)
I’ll build a gaming PC, they all say
But they’re dead wrong, I know they are
I can’t even make an avatar
And I won’t quit till I’m a star on Broadwell
(or Skylake)
Sadly, you just missed the Tonys.

Certainly a familiar tune with the Mini.

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That HP certainly looks good but it seems it doesn't have a HDMI port.
Can't say that I'm in love with HDMI,
works fine on my TV, but I get better results with MiniDisplayPort and DVI on my Desktop.

I have to use HDMI with one of my Wacom Cintiqs and it's not an inspiring experience.
 
OK, against my better judgment if I had any, to the tune of George Benson's "On Broadway:"

"On Broadwell"

They say the mini may not come till Broadwell
(or Skylake)
They say the 2012 will do just fine
But when you want to fly X-plane
Those HD graphics are just lame
You turn the settings down till you’re nowhere

They say the mini will be great on Broadwell
(or Skylake)
But waiting so long just gives me the blues
Cause how ya gonna take that ridge
When all you got is Ivy Bridge
And i5 Ivy Bridge won’t even hyperthread

They say that I won’t wait so long for Broadwell
(or Skylake)
I’ll build a gaming PC, they all say
But they’re dead wrong, I know they are
I can’t even make an avatar
And I won’t quit till I’m a star on Broadwell
(or Skylake)

Beautiful! To be performed soon by the Mini Sad Debacle Choir?
 
Sadly, you just missed the Tonys.

Certainly a familiar tune with the Mini.

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Can't say that I'm in love with HDMI,
works fine on my TV, but I get better results with MiniDisplayPort and DVI on my Desktop.

I have to use HDMI with one of my Wacom Cintiqs and it's not an inspiring experience.

I think the HDMI is a main appeal of those using the mini as a HTPC though.
 
While day to day portability is not necessary, for me (and no doubt many others) occasional transportability is important. It was the reason I got the original Mac Mini (base model) when it hit the market in 2005. It was the reason I got my second in 2009 (also base model, but increased the RAM to load Mountain Lion). And it will be the reason I get another (probably base model) in due course.

My Mini only takes a minute or to disconnect. Thrown in a backpack, it is more rugged and convenient to transport than most laptops. Then it takes only a couple of minutes to set up with a projector or any spare monitor at work.

The new Mac Pro would work for me on the transportability criteria, but I do not need that much grunt. I have neither the budget, need, nor desire to own one.

An iMac, in any form, doesn't cut it.

Everything you described can be accomplished with a MBP or MBA...with the added convenience of being able to work without having to lug around or track down a monitor, power brick, keyboard, or mouse. While I can see you or maybe someone else with a specialized need taking the Mini on the road on a regular basis, I hardly think that the engineers at Apple should be taking that 1% of 1% into consideration. If you need something portable, they have a portable solution. The Mini is not, and should not be viewed as a portable solution. It should be seen as a compact, mid-tier power, affordable, entry-level desktop solution.
 
Now that Dr. Dre is with Apple. I'm better, his new album "Detox" and the updated Mac Mini will both be released the same day.
 
Everything you described can be accomplished with a MBP or MBA...with the added convenience of being able to work without having to lug around or track down a monitor, power brick, keyboard, or mouse. While I can see you or maybe someone else with a specialized need taking the Mini on the road on a regular basis, I hardly think that the engineers at Apple should be taking that 1% of 1% into consideration. If you need something portable, they have a portable solution. The Mini is not, and should not be viewed as a portable solution. It should be seen as a compact, mid-tier power, affordable, entry-level desktop solution.

Arrant, narrow-minded, bumptious, tosh.

I am far from unique or specialised in occasionally transporting a Mac Mini. That was one of the main reasons I got one back in in 2005….

I replaced the first, with another base model in 2009. It was not as an "upgrade". It was more cost effective than repairing the original Mini when the HDD failed and the power supply was dicky.

The 2009 will in turn will be repaired, or replaced with whatever Mini is current, when it wears out. I want a computer, not a "solution".

Let's lay to rest the myth that the Mini is an "entry level computer". It is all the computer many people need. The Mini can be upgraded to quite a high spec, should requirements dictate. Not enough? Then there is the Mac Pro, which is also quite transportable.

Not everybody wants bragging rights to the latest and highest specs. A computer that does the job, and can easily transported occasionally is exactly how I view my Mini.

Not everybody wants a delicate, poncey scrap of a laptop to tote from class or office to cafe.

Away from my desk, or classes, I want nothing to do with computers, or being be on line in any way. I seldom even carry a mobile phone. If I do, it is a basic Nokia with a monotone screen.

Tracking down a monitor is not a problem. Away from my home I usually use my Mini hooked up to a projector (which takes about as long set up as a laptop). Finding a monitor would be easy should I need one.

If I move back to my own country, as I could well do in the next year or so, I would just take the computer and get the peripherals I need when I get there.
 
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