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All the heat issues with NUC and Brix will be resolved with Broadwell.

Apple IMO will make a better alternative to the competitors with Broadwell but it may lag in its introduction due to getting the Macbook and IMac the first chips.

That seems like a good possibility, but if the mini is going to lag on the lagging Broadwell that will be a long wait, so there is time for a Haswell interim step to happen this year (almost certainly).
 
That seems like a good possibility, but if the mini is going to lag on the lagging Broadwell that will be a long wait, so there is time for a Haswell interim step to happen this year (almost certainly).

Almost certainty is what this thread is based on.

Hi,

i work in an Apple Reseller and like many of you i'm waiting for the mini 2013 refresh.

From monday the two major Apple suppliers in Italy are suddenly and completely out of stock of minis. I know that this happen from time to time, but the timing is no coincidence.

Trust me, a new mini is coming next week, or at least we have solid evidence to believe it.

Further enlightenment from OP GabrieleR would be welcome…. your voice has long been missing,
 
That's a good point. I'm just not sure we'd see a $100 price reduction with only a CPU drop and HDD quality decrease. Then again, as long as it's not soldered, it might actually make sense. I see something like this as marketed to public school systems and/or developing markets where 2GB might actually be enough.

Of course, it all hinges on the release of a cheaper Mini, for which there have been no rumors... just hopeful speculation based on the iMac.


Please people, there is NO situation where 2GB is enough. NONE.
 
All the heat issues with NUC and Brix will be resolved with Broadwell.

Apple IMO will make a better alternative to the competitors with Broadwell but it may lag in its introduction due to getting the Macbook and IMac the first chips.

But what about the noise issues? NO ONE wants s small and LOUD computer.
 
I waited until the Sopranos final season started until I watched it on Netflix.

Was a nice way to watch it. I wait for the first four season of both Dexter and True Blood. Also nice way to start watching a tv show. Weeds 4 maybe 3 years before I started.
Mad Men I just started a week ago.


Waiting for the mini who cares anymore.

Well I do but hey I will pop in here one or two times a day write 1 or 2 posts. Just to see if we get this up to 2500 or more.

24 was just about over when I started. Have not started Dexter yet. Weeds about 4 years in when I started.

Waiting for the last season of Sopranos made me want to show up at HBO headquarters and hang the person responsible for making fans wait almost 2 years. I am a valuable TV watcher, do not abuse me :)

And someone had a good point about all the mini companies that have sprung up to the niche market of the mini. Of which one of the largest is server/hosting businesses. Good point.
 
But it is still a computer. Albeit a high priced one, and not a consumer level computer. So they "hate the computer business" and "never want to sell any more computers" is just not entirely accurate.

I think this is more a matter of semantics than anything else, so I will bow out gracefully.

And continue my wait for the new mini. Which will be coming and will be a complete surprise. Which, these days, is quite a feat by itself.

Speaking of semantics where do "hate the computer business" and "never want to sell any more computers" come from. The subject is not black or white. As a suppliment to iOS devices Apple can offer a couple of fairly powerful computers within a very limited range of styles and be visibly not in the computer business to the extent that Assus, Dell, HP and Lenovo are.

Additionally Apple can sell the kind of computers that lend themselves to a configured and sealed at the factory and ARM powered future. The MBA and new iMac may point to that very future.

Just sayin'
 
I'm not saying that a RAM upgrade wouldn't be the first, absolutely necessary step for anyone on here. But I don't see this targeted at Apple's regular consumer market. Read: developing market.

A 2GB Mac is as close to an unusable fashion accessory as you can get... and you think this is needed in developing markets? For someone who is really strapped for cash and can't afford an 8GB Mac it makes more sense to lose the "Mac" than the "8GB".
 
GabrieleR didn't have a scoop to begin with.
This thread is unfortunate proof that Apple retail staff know absolutely nothing about future products.

He is a reseller so he isn't Apple retail staff, but yes Apple retail staff does not have access to any information that isn't already available to the public. Part of the reason is to protect retail sales of the current selection of devices but another part is to protect the retail staff from constantly having to speculate on future releases. When I worked at Apple we got information at most the day before the product was to hit the store and usually that was limited to back of house staff. In fact most of the Apple retail staff comes to Macrumors for information.
 
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He is a reseller so he isn't Apple retail staff, but yes Apple retail staff does not have access to any information that is already available to the public. Part of the reason is to protect retail sales of the current selection of devices but another part is to protect the retail staff from constantly having to speculate on future releases. When I worked at Apple we got information at most the day before the product was to hit the store and usually that was limited to back of house staff. In fact most of the Apple retail staff comes to Macrumors for information.

Thanks.
 
All the heat issues with NUC and Brix will be resolved with Broadwell.
I'm not so sure about that; granted Broadwell will run cooler, but the Brix NUCs have some pretty horrible cooling, even if Broadwell does cut heat by the full 60% that is claimed, poor cooling will still result in poor performance as it's forced to slow down to avoid cooking itself.

I am of course very excited about the possibility of a passively cooled Mac Mini, but only if Apple do it right; e.g - use the whole case as a great big heat-sink so it can run full speed for prolonged periods if you need it to, either that or running passively most of the time, but with a fan for backup just to make sure for higher workloads or hotter environments.
 
A 2GB Mac is as close to an unusable fashion accessory as you can get... and you think this is needed in developing markets? For someone who is really strapped for cash and can't afford an 8GB Mac it makes more sense to lose the "Mac" than the "8GB".

So perhaps I've been spoiled by machines with 8+ GB RAM recently. My 2009 MacBook runs Lion just fine on 2GB and is a perfectly capable "guest" computer - internet, video streaming, office work - though admittedly it has a SATA3 SSD. Didn't realize just how unusable MacOS X has become with only 2GB - and frankly, it's a little disappointing.

Regardless, the idea was a brainstorm. It still seems feasible for a price and component reduction ala the iMac, and the 1.4GHz i5 is not as unusable as some on this forum have implied.
 
So perhaps I've been spoiled by machines with 8+ GB RAM recently. My 2009 MacBook runs Lion just fine on 2GB and is a perfectly capable "guest" computer - internet, video streaming, office work - though admittedly it has a SATA3 SSD. Didn't realize just how unusable MacOS X has become with only 2GB - and frankly, it's a little disappointing.

Regardless, the idea was a brainstorm. It still seems feasible for a price and component reduction ala the iMac, and the 1.4GHz i5 is not as unusable as some on this forum have implied.

For what it's worth, I would much sooner settle for an 1.4GHz i5 than for 2GB of RAM. My main machine at home is a dual core 0.7GHz Celeron with 8GB of RAM and a cheap SSD. Perfectly fine for web browsing, managing my podcasts, playing 1080p video, encoding CDs to FLAC etc. And not afflicted by any of the UI slowness I endure on "better" machines that I am exposed to in my work environment (e.g. i5 with 2GB RAM and spinning disk).
 
For what it's worth, I would much sooner settle for an 1.4GHz i5 than for 2GB of RAM. My main machine at home is a dual core 0.7GHz Celeron with 8GB of RAM and a cheap SSD. Perfectly fine for web browsing, managing my podcasts, playing 1080p video, encoding CDs to FLAC etc. And not afflicted by any of the UI slowness I endure on "better" machines that I am exposed to in my work environment (e.g. i5 with 2GB RAM and spinning disk).


0.7GHz? :eek::eek:

You mean 1.7Ghz, ?! ;)
 
0.7GHz? :eek::eek:

You mean 1.7Ghz, ?! ;)

Sorry, it turns out I was just confused. I Checked the data sheet and it's 2.13GHz but I could have sworn /proc/cpuinfo said something below 1GHz last I checked it. Maybe it was throttled down?

Anyway, it's a cheaper-than-cheap Celeron, so when taking into account everything else and not just the clock frequency this is a much weaker processor than an 1.4GHz i5.
 
Needed a new machine and couldn't be bothered waiting for the conjecture to pan out (it's already way overdue) so just bought a new current Mini for way less than RRP, that way if/when the new one is released I won't feel so down :D
 
Needed a new machine and couldn't be bothered waiting for the conjecture to pan out (it's already way overdue) so just bought a new current Mini for way less than RRP, that way if/when the new one is released I won't feel so down :D

Rest assured that it will not be obsolete for several years, just as Mini's as far back as 2009 will be able to run Yosemite, and most apps.

Meanwhile, I'll toddle off and rest assured that when I wake at dawn in a few hours, it will be Tuesday
 
Speaking of semantics where do "hate the computer business" and "never want to sell any more computers" come from. The subject is not black or white. As a suppliment to iOS devices Apple can offer a couple of fairly powerful computers within a very limited range of styles and be visibly not in the computer business to the extent that Assus, Dell, HP and Lenovo are.

Additionally Apple can sell the kind of computers that lend themselves to a configured and sealed at the factory and ARM powered future. The MBA and new iMac may point to that very future.

Just sayin'

I was embelishing on your "Between their hardware updates recently, iWork, and now Aperture, how much more will it take to convince people they don't want to be in the computer business anymore. "

You must admit, that is a fairly strong statement :)
 
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