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The next MacBook Pro redesign (merged)
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Not sure I get your "designs for something smaller then goes big". The only pattern I've seen on redesigns for the computer side of their business (iPhone and iPad have no bearing here) is that typically they redesign a machine about every 3 years. Since the rMBP was redesigned in 2012, it's a candidate (along with the iMac for that matter).
Maybe I'm misunderstanding your original statement, but I'm disagreeing with the idea that Apple will replace all USB-A ports with USB-C. I think it's possible to see the next rMBP (whether it gets released this year or early 2016, with or without a redesign) with a couple of USB-C ports, but still have one or 2 USB-A ports. Obviously USB-C will take over entirely at some point. New ports on a machine do not require a redesign by Apple, even on the Macbook Pro.
As I stated a moment ago, Apple doesn't redesign their machines just to accommodate new ports. Check the Macbook Pro history (and my previous post).
You're misunderstanding.
Apple breaks new ground on manufacturing on smaller devices first, then puts what they learned in bigger devices. Ie, the Macbook Air and what they learned from that they put it in the rMBP. Now what they learned from 12" MacBook Pro they will apply to the next round of rMBP.
Same thing goes for iPhone. They break new grounds on the iPhone first (TouchID, Retina, etc etc) and then they apply that to bigger products like iPads.
Apple is definitely getting rid of USB-A. Watch and see. It's too fat, it takes up a lot of space. The most space, actually. Apple already did a speed bump for a 2015 rMBP and they are about two years behind in processor and architecture. These new Skylake processors are smaller and generate less heat and eat up less energy so they are bound to go with a new chasis for the next rMBP. They want to use the new iGPUs and move away from dGPUs, but they will still have dGPUs in the next rMBP.
This what Apple is about. They finally figured out their "gig".
I agree with the "small to big" pattern for iOS devices; not so much for their computers. The most glaring example: the Retina screen came to the Pro first, hasn't and won't be implemented on the Air, and came with the re-born Macbook 3 years later. The Air got Thunderbolt several months after the Pro did, in 2011. The Air obviously was born with a unibody design in 2008, while the Pro got it later that year. The Air never even got upgraded with the first Core-i Intel processors while the Pros got them in 2010. I could go on, but my point is that the small to big pattern does not exist with Apple's computers.
And to my previous point, yes, USB-C will take over at some point. I just don't think it will replace all the USB-A ports at once on the next Pro, with or without a redesign.
This is what I'm wondering, too. I'm not as familiar with the MacBook release cycles as I am the iPhone cycles. Anyone have any thoughts on a release timeframe for a redesign?
The announced Xeon E3 v5 doesn't include Iris Pro/GT4e graphics, only HD P530. It's not the kind of processor they would include on a redesign.
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/88210/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-v5-Family#@Mobile
Siri would be software (and also not something that would have to be restricted to new hardware...unless there was a hardware functionality it relied on).
I'm thinking the 15' Pro won't get much of redesign. They really don't want to compromise performance with a complete overhaul design.. I know they've come to obsession over thin-ness/less ports and what not but with high end pro's its unnecessary to make big changes.
I see you have bought the latest and greatest rMBP. I feel your hoping more than you are predicting.
If you don't want to compromise performance, get a desktop like Mac Pro or iMac. Portability is the key in any laptop buyers mind. I have already made the move to a retina Macbook, and yes, I don't miss my retina Macbook Pro. Because I treated my 15 inch as a transportable desktop rather than a portable device. Also the dedicated GPU chips in the Macbook Pro has a long history of failures with overheating and underperforming.
I hereby welcome any diet you can give the Macbook Pro line. I want the power only if you can make it thinner and more up to date to what the new Macbook is doing. By the way, I edit 36MP RAW files on the rMB, without much of a problem. El Capitan sure was an upgrade in speed. No more hiccups on my baseline Macbook. Its like the saying about cameras, you only take pictures with the camera you take with you. The same applies to laptops.
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These aren't mutually exclusive concepts. The retina Macbook Pro was thinner and lighter than its predecessor but didn't sacrifice performance. Skylake chips would allow for a similar redesign.
Exactly. The retina MBP is a beast. I had the 2011 as well and that thing was fast too, but the rMBP is faster, thinner and a better screen. Apple likes to top themselves they like challenging the status quo.
The next redesign should definitely slim the rMBP. Here is why -
- Reduced thickness of screen taken from rMB
- Slimmer keyboard
- Move to usb C
- Higher efficiency of Skylake
which means a line with 12" MB, 13" MBP slim and 15" MBP slim (get rid of air eventually).
As much as I would like a redesign to happen with Skylake, I am doubtful. Just consider the rMB, the first rumors started appearing in october 2013! That's one and a half year before it's introduction. However, the rMB was a revolutionary product and we all know that its release was delayed many times. Still, while the new MBP may be more of an evolution of the existing line, we would have heard something by now if it was actually a new design coming with Skylake.
I'm guessing now, but if the chassis would need to be redesigned, not only for Skylake but processors 3-4 years ahead in time, this would require meetings and discussions with Intel, AMD/Nvidia, Samsung and LG (displays), battery-manufacturers, camera- and microphone suppliers possibly et.c. et.c.. Somewhere along those lines, something would've leaked. As far as I know, we haven't heard a word of new MBPs, while the word is already out on updated iMacs this autumn - and we're just talking a spec-update of the latter, most likely.
I think the current design will stay with us until maybe Q3 2016 or even Q1 2017. Skylake will probably be added in Q4 '15 or Q1 '16, but no new design as far as I'm guessing.
I'm guessing now, but if the chassis would need to be redesigned, not only for Skylake but processors 3-4 years ahead in time, this would require meetings and discussions with Intel, AMD/Nvidia, Samsung and LG (displays), battery-manufacturers, camera- and microphone suppliers possibly et.c. et.c.. Somewhere along those lines, something would've leaked. As far as I know, we haven't heard a word of new MBPs, while the word is already out on updated iMacs this autumn - and we're just talking a spec-update of the latter, most likely.
I think the current design will stay with us until maybe Q3 2016 or even Q1 2017. Skylake will probably be added in Q4 '15 or Q1 '16, but no new design as far as I'm guessing.
What makes you believe Apple has not seen processor roadmaps from Intel already or been in discussions with component manufacturers? No one but apple knows when the next redesign will hit. I'm sure the engineers are hard at work on future prototypes. I vote for them to make this as quickly as possible to compete with the Dell Xps line.
Absolutely nothing has leaked as far as I'm aware! Have you been around at MacRumors for any length of time? The first aluminum iMac was rumored long ahead of it's release. The unibody MacBook Pro was, too. The Retina MacBook Pro was rumored almost a year ahead (although people expected it to be a 15" MacBook Air). The plans of the rMacBook was, as I said, leaked as early as October 2013. Probably many others as well, these are just from my memory having frequented this place since 2007.
The same goes for iPhones, the first iPhone 6 design was leaked in march/april 2014 and I actually held a perfect mock-up model in my hand in july 2014 while visiting the US. The same goes for iPads, the iPad Pro was first rumored in early 2014.
As there are many more parties involved in producing a rMBP, Apple can double-down on secrecy all they like, but things always end up on here anyway. No, Apple are not the only ones who know about their future computer-lines. Where do you think Ming Chi Kuo and all others receive their info from? I'm pretty sure it's not directly from Apple.
Have you maybe heard of that little place in China called Fox-something? Was it Foxco... Yes Foxconn!
Oh.. And guess what, there is this factory called Quanta Computer which produces Apples new MacBooks, oh and just ahead of its production start, we received this rumor in december, but yes I'm sure that was just a coincidence...
https://www.macrumors.com/2014/12/22/12-inch-macbook-air-mass-production-early-2015/
No. Apple are not the only ones who would know. Unless of course, a new MBP was only in its first stages of development.
What about the Mac Pro? Did we hear about it too? Also the rMB was a giant iPad or a retina air but no real leaks...unless you consider Ming C. From Wall StreetAbsolutely nothing has leaked as far as I'm aware! Have you been around at MacRumors for any length of time? The first aluminum iMac was rumored long ahead of it's release. The unibody MacBook Pro was, too. The Retina MacBook Pro was rumored almost a year ahead (although people expected it to be a 15" MacBook Air). The plans of the rMacBook was, as I said, leaked as early as October 2013. Probably many others as well, these are just from my memory having frequented this place since 2007.
The same goes for iPhones, the first iPhone 6 design was leaked in march/april 2014 and I actually held a perfect mock-up model in my hand in july 2014 while visiting the US. The same goes for iPads, the iPad Pro was first rumored in early 2014.
As there are many more parties involved in producing a rMBP, Apple can double-down on secrecy all they like, but things always end up on here anyway. No, Apple are not the only ones who know about their future computer-lines. Where do you think Ming Chi Kuo and all others receive their info from? I'm pretty sure it's not directly from Apple.
Have you maybe heard of that little place in China called Fox-something? Was it Foxco... Yes Foxconn!
Oh.. And guess what, there is this factory called Quanta Computer which produces Apples new MacBooks, oh and just ahead of its production start, we received this rumor in december, but yes I'm sure that was just a coincidence...
https://www.macrumors.com/2014/12/22/12-inch-macbook-air-mass-production-early-2015/
No. Apple are not the only ones who would know. Unless of course, a new MBP was only in its first stages of development.
+1. The new 15" XPS looks amazing with that thin bezel and carbon/aluminium case...And packs quite high-end hardware (Broadwell, M9x0 nVidia). I'd rather stay with Apple but if that XPS is as good as it sounds I might end-up testing that for a while.
The current rMBP models must surely be the last of their case designs. Over 3 years old now for the 15" rMBP and now that the 12" rMB is out they look positively archaic, not to mention gargantuan!
I love the rMBP's power but it's time for an update. I don't think I'll even mind the move to USB-C so long as they include enough of them! No skimping on ports please Apple!
Oh and a bigger trackpad, less bezel, space grey model and much better graphics!
I love the rMBP's power but it's time for an update. I don't think I'll even mind the move to USB-C so long as they include enough of them! No skimping on ports please Apple!
Oh and a bigger trackpad, less bezel, space grey model and much better graphics!
Some of you are really grasping for straws here.
Not applicable, the Mac Pro is:
a) Produced in extremely small quantities compared to the MacBooks.
b) Produced in the US, making it easier for Apple to control leaks.
c) Was introduced before mass-production started, hence the delays.
Last but not least, we actually did hear about the Mac Pro. In a sense. We knew long ahead that Apple were going to start production of a new computer model in the US. Most rumors pointed towards this being a new Mac Pro.
Now tell me, what have you heard of the new MBPs? Or any rumors of new laptops from Apple for that matter? Please, do tell. (I don't consider speculation and wishful thinking to be credible rumors BTW).
I'm waiting patiently to replace my 13" rMBP with something lighter, so I'm eager as well, but have been on here long enough to know better.
I'm not saying an October-update is completely ruled out but I'd be very, very surprised if it was a redesign.
Apple will redesign with skylake. When this computer releases is a mystery. But I'm positive it will be a redesign. We heard about the Retina Macbook Pro in advance because of HiDPI images being hidden in OS X. As for the design itself though? We were pretty clueless until about a month in advance. So sure, come Early 2016 and we haven't heard a thing, we can talk. But right now I remain confident that there will be a redesign when Apple releases its next Macbook Pro.
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