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The next MacBook Pro redesign (merged)
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I'm going to need you to understand that the term "pro" is extremely vague and can be applied to countless professions.
I guess with the release of the new Magic Keyboard, Apple is looking to save space and have a uniform keyboard design across all of it's product lines. Therefore, we could see a thinner rMBP which is perhaps even lighter. If the 13 rMBP can shave off around 200g, it would be roughly the same weight as the 13 MBA whilst having a smaller footprint.
This charming lady is comparing the 4K UHD Dell with the current rMBP 2015
The IGZO 4k on the Dell push too much saturation. The video clearly demonstrates that even though it pushes more pixels than the current rMBP, the Dell screen lose colour depth and pops the palette too high to see the nuances in the image. Even though I would prefer 4K in the next Macbook Pro, I still consider quality more important than pixel count. Apple carries this philosophy in their iPhone line, where the pixel count is modest both in camera and display.
Lenovo Y50 UHD is a computer with a 4K IPS display, but the reviews aren't praising the display. Also runs with a slower refresh rate. Only 48 hz, even in lower resolutions.
Apple can in fact be the first to deliver 4K IPS displays to laptops with 60hz. The Skylakes 530 graphics controller is at least capable of delivering it. So in a way, they can innovate and introduce something completely new in the following months.
The IGZO 4k on the Dell push too much saturation. The video clearly demonstrates that even though it pushes more pixels than the current rMBP, the Dell screen lose colour depth and pops the palette too high to see the nuances in the image. Even though I would prefer 4K in the next Macbook Pro, I still consider quality more important than pixel count. Apple carries this philosophy in their iPhone line, where the pixel count is modest both in camera and display.
Lenovo Y50 UHD is a computer with a 4K IPS display, but the reviews aren't praising the display. Also runs with a slower refresh rate. Only 48 hz, even in lower resolutions.
Apple can in fact be the first to deliver 4K IPS displays to laptops with 60hz. The Skylakes 530 graphics controller is at least capable of delivering it. So in a way, they can innovate and introduce something completely new in the following months.
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One thing on my wishlist, which is something Apple did in around 1993, but has since forgotten.
I want a discrete GPU in a dock! everyone is doing cartwheels about MS doing this in the keyboard, which is cool, but I'd actually prefer it in the dock like Apple did with their old Duo line. By putting it in a dock, we could actually have a workstation-class GPU. And really, the dock is where I need it. I'm OK with integrated graphics, when I'm on the go. But I'd love to support multiple huge displays when I'm docked.
This is why I'm returning my rMBP in favor of the new iMac. The rMBP is fast enough, but doesn't support enough external displays. Whoever offered me workstation-class graphics from a dock will get my business.
I want a discrete GPU in a dock! everyone is doing cartwheels about MS doing this in the keyboard, which is cool, but I'd actually prefer it in the dock like Apple did with their old Duo line. By putting it in a dock, we could actually have a workstation-class GPU. And really, the dock is where I need it. I'm OK with integrated graphics, when I'm on the go. But I'd love to support multiple huge displays when I'm docked.
This is why I'm returning my rMBP in favor of the new iMac. The rMBP is fast enough, but doesn't support enough external displays. Whoever offered me workstation-class graphics from a dock will get my business.
The rMBP 2015 with AMD supports two 4k monitors or a single 5k monitor. I prefer one large monitor (30"+) instead of multiple small ones. GPUs in a dock is a nice idea, but with the space that such a case will take up along with cabling would lead me to build a dedicating gaming system instead.
The Surface Book is clever, but doesn't engage me. It is simply too much. Apple is about doing one thing really great, instead of creating cannibalising products that try to fit every segment.
Laptops will never be workstations, still portable devices will satisfy 99% of the market. I am a fan of the desktop, still I don't think the power it packs get utilised on a daily basis without gaming in ultra settings in extreme resolutions. It's really a matter of how we deal with the heat from the GPU and how much space is available to do so in the actual form factor.
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If you can wait, wait. Skylake alone, without any redesign, will be worth it, especially GPU side.
It's going to be hard to market a newer rMBP as a "pro" device if they start gutting it like Apple does. Unless something really changes soon, the form factor is limited to the internals.
Also good to know that Apple does not offer full Metal support for machines with switching graphics. This really sucks as a dGPU rMBP owner. This could mean that a rMPB with only integrated graphics might run El Capitan snappier than one with a better GPU.
This might be especially noticeable when running a 5K monitor.
Yet another clue to support the rumor that Apple is dropping switching GPUs from their laptops.
As much as I love software updates like Metal, optimisation only goes as far as the hardware is capable. I wouldn't want to spread uncertainty regarding 5K performance without any benchmarks. The screen from Dell is the only display offering this resolution, and I think the market is too small. It is probably in the 0.001% or even less. I can't find any documentation on performance with a Google search except for the article under.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/what-its-like-to-live-in-5k/
I will definitely exchange my rMBP 2015 M370X laptop before 5K becomes the norm. I see some reddit users with two 4K screens on their computer and they seem happy with the performance. If you're economy halts your decision to buy, you should get another job or simply a cheaper computer. Future proofing is both expensive and foolish.
You should worry about 5K if you are buying a 5K monitor with the computer, else its just a waste of thoughts.
rMB 12" should only run at 1920x1200 max. If you are serious about using external monitors with extreme resolutions, the only choice is desktops or the rMBP with M370X.
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Well, I don't need the dedicated graphics and I'll mostly be using it for my computational engineering calculations. I'm not sure if you're familiar with matlab and Aspen Hysys but those will be the programs I'll be using most of the time. I have an old school MacBook that has been working OK. However, that thing is a lot slower than the new MBPs and a hell of a lot heavier.
Would the Skylake processors significantly increase the performance during my calculations? I was looking at a few videos of the MBPs benchmarks and they really haven't increased a lot over the past two years. I'm not sure if the Skylake processors are going to be groundbreaking and blow the current processors out the water or not.
CPU specific improvements will be minimal from Skylake. On the order of 10% or so. It's really the GPU that gets improved this time around, as well as power efficiency and bringing new technologies to the table. If you need a computer now, buy it. If you want a computer now, it is likely that the next update will be a big one overall, with the current machines seeming fairly dated in retrospect, although it will probably still be a bit of a wait.
Yeah, I think I just want a new computer. I'll probably just wait a little while. I have a company laptop that I can use but I hate carrying around property that's not mine.
If they go with the wedge design, I can't help but wonder how it will be considered different then a MBA/MB
I think a new design may be in the works, this next generation but I fear that apple will roll out a thinner laptop with less ports and call that innovation.
I think a new design may be in the works, this next generation but I fear that apple will roll out a thinner laptop with less ports and call that innovation.
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