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The next MacBook Pro redesign (merged)
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Actually I have a similar setup. A desktop computer along with a iPad Air 2. I don't draw, but day-to-day tasks like notes, short e-mails, calls, stream music to my audio setups and just browse. There is still a lot the iPad Pro can't do good, like editing RAW files from larger cameras. When 5G arrives and cloud computing becomes reliable and affordable, I think the iPads computing power will be challenging the use of laptops. I love the idea of using a single device with cellular access built in for all my tasks.
Gestures outsmart the mouse and keyboard in most cases except for typing. The full screen apps help you focus on a single app at a time though can't replace a multiple screen setup with large datasets, long pages of code and a preview/test window. Take a look at what kind of type of computer people are using in the chart below. The demand for desktops have been stable since the new millennium. Laptops has been trumped by tablets for the last five years. Not only taking a share, but growing as a whole. Actually doubling the amount of computers being bought globally.
Professionals are usually the last people to embrace change. As long as they are convinced desktops and laptops will be a part of the process in work, keyboard and mouse will rule business. Locale storage has to be rendered irrelevant first. I would rather invest in iCloud storage than iPad gigabytes. iCloud caters to all my devices cross-platform. Try doing that with 256GB iPad storage alone. Again access to Internet along with speed and security is really what is stopping a positive development among pro users adapting tablets. Processing power and connectivity are minor concerns in comparison.
As a single device for all round light work it is great, but owning two legacy computers (keyboard and mouse) means twice the maintenance. More backups, more settings and less time. The iPad requires zero maintenance. You set it up and it flies. Everything is in the cloud and cellular connectivity removes the requirement of having a modem with me or hunting down free wifi. I seldom get the time to do serious work on the road. I just end up jotting down comments on existing work or sketch new ideas quickly down. My business address isn't the nearest StarBucks.
I have tried writing serious code in cafes, and the result is just average and leaves me with more debugging when I get to my desktop. Better to just comment fields of code and ideas, then do everything in a single sit-down at home or the office.
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Yeah, iPad or tablets success is actually in the hands of developers, if they're able to create apps that are intuitive enough to replace traditional softwares and in most case scenarios, the app will end up being a niche app as tablet requires UI optimisation to work best. Just look at Procreate, works wonderful as a sketching device but if you want to do geometrical drawings, you'll have to look at Concepts and etc for those stuffs.
I guess Apple or Google role would be to inspire developers in the things that they can do with tablets, something that Microsoft has done really well with HoloLens during the Build conference.
I guess Apple or Google role would be to inspire developers in the things that they can do with tablets, something that Microsoft has done really well with HoloLens during the Build conference.
yes, unfortunately there is no one perfect drawing app yet and seem to need a selection to do everything I want at present. However Adobe Sketch is my current favourite.
Also you are right about the UI. I was just thinking today what a good job the guys did with shapr3d but when more features come in, they will struggle to keep it clean and efficient.
Yes, those Macbook bezels are just old & tired. The Dell XPS Infinity Edge 4k screens are just beautiful - I can't believe Dell beat Apple to market with those beauties. I'd LOVE to see something similar to that on the Macs - and I'll bet lots of customers would too! If they don't compete, they risk getting smoked by Dell XPS - they're serious machines.
Surely this depends on the case of usage?
I mean, just look at the MacBook Air. One might rightly ask why it still even exists, given Apple decided to release a Retina MacBook that is more portable, durable and better looking (subjective). Clearly, the market is still there for the MBA and Apple know it would be silly to stop producing it, even though the screen is severely outdated. It's priced incredibly well for the performance is the perfect everyday notebook. Why change what's not broken?
You could say similar things about the MacBook Pro. How many users actually max out the CPU/GPU to an extent that they can no longer work comfortably; even if the product is brand new? It is surely a very small percentage of users.
Tasks are just becoming more and more efficient.
Of course it comes down to usage. However people aren't stupid. Generally when dropping one or two grand on something people do some research or ask their friends. And it will become increasingly likely the friends will inform them the MacBooks use processors released years ago.
As to the Airs still sticking around I understand it so Apple can meet a lower price point, but its also indicative of the current Apple. Everything sticks around forever, making choices a muddled mess. I think very exact margins and price points are as important to Apple currently as is what made them Apple previously.
AMD will release new GPUs in june.
http://videocardz.com/58894/amd-radeon-r9-490x-and-r9-490-launches-in-june
Underclocked 390x chip rebranded launching at WWDC?
http://videocardz.com/58894/amd-radeon-r9-490x-and-r9-490-launches-in-june
Underclocked 390x chip rebranded launching at WWDC?
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"Mehhhh" more desktop news. As long as there aren't any R9 m470x/480/490(x)/395 rumors I highly doubt they will put something other than an iGPU in the next rMBP release...
Most mobile GPUs are underclocked desktop GPUs from previous generations rebranded.
Legit question... Does anyone feel limited by the processing power of the current RMBP? This thing slices through anything I throw at it and I know tech should always be advancing, but I'm hoping more for a redesign than a performance overhaul.
I'll be honest with you, I am very impressed haha.... we just got a refurbished 2014 15" for our company presenter (the boss is a spare no expense type) and I have been blown away by its performance.... and honestly... it makes me question why I should hold out for the skylake refresh.... although.... tb3 will be nice
It's a great computer. Portability could be better. I want to use it everywhere. One computer to rule them all.
I'm fine with the CPU power on my mid-2012 15"rMBP quad-core i7. I don't game at all so I just need enough GPU for smooth 4k video. A mode efficient CPU would be nice for longer battery and to run quieter if the fans aren't needed as much. I really want all the other parts upgraded (some of which are available now): force-touch pad, 4k/60Hz HDMI 2, 5k DP1.3, TB3 (over USB-C?), dual-tone/low-reflective screen. I'd be happy if they dropped all ports but headphone and maybe 4-6 USB-C each supporting USB 3.1, USB2/1, TB2/3, power, DP, HDMI. From what I've read, the TB3 and DP1.3 won't be available from Intel until Kaby Lake.
Don't expect much improvement on CPU the next years as intel has announced that they use 3 iterations instead of 2. Expect lots of improvement in the GPU department instead. Nvidea and AMD already announced some powerful mobile GPUs that don't need much cooling. Hopefully, Apple will integrate them to enable faster 4K/5K+ graphics not only in the 15" model.
I hope the rumors are true that the delay with 13/15 inch refresh is for a (thinner) redesign. Otherwise Apple is leaving money on the table. Most people are waiting to upgrade to faster/newer model and who cant wait is making the switch to Win10 laptops(XPS13/XPS15)
I agree. A lot of people are getting fed up with waiting around, especially when there isn't a whole lot in the current Mac lineup to keep them there. Windows 10 has its issues, especially it comes to high DPI displays and software not optimized for them but it's getting better. I'm fortune enough to have both a rMBP and a Surface Book and on the hardware side, the Surface Book is awesome. I personally don't like it but even the new HP Spectre machine is a step in the right direction. You're finally seeing the tipping point of people looking at the current Macs and saying "Why would I spend $2,000 on a Mac when I can spend less on Windows machine that is faster, thinner and just as usable?".
I can't seriously believe that Apple wouldn't do a total redesign of the remaining Macs in the lineup. It makes zero sense to just make internal upgrades and not the physical look.
Windows 8/8.1, this is not. Microsoft is doing a great job righting the ship, even with the bumps along the way. I absolutely love my Surface Book. I miss OS X a lot sometimes (which is why I have the rMBP as well for design/development) but when I need to get onto a machine, I find myself using or at least wanting to use the Surface Book more than the Macbook Pro.
In order to achieve a bezel-less look, Dell had to move the camera to the bottom left, so when you are using it for a video call, the person you are talking to can see right up your nose. This is a totally unacceptable compromise & poor engineering.
Plus the Dell uses 16:9 panels which is also totally ridiculous on a notebook. 16:10 (the usual MBP ratio)/3:2 (Surface Book ratio) bezel-less with the camera in the correct position will tick the box.
I don't really get the obsession with insanely-thin bezels. The current MacBook Pros look very well-proportioned, in my opinion, and the black border is subtle and thin enough already.
When it gets to the point where the camera is in a silly place like on those Dells, it's definitely gone too far. I also think that the extra-large bottom bezel (to accommodate the camera) looks even worse! I like symmetry, and I'm glad that Apple does as well.
I agree with the popular opinion that the MacBook Air's bezels look terrible, though.
Consider that rumors have pointed towards the "redesign" just being a move to a similar design to the Macbook. If that's the case then it's not incredibly difficult to see why there's been no leaks lol.
Everything at the moment points to an announcement at WWDC in June. It's very likely that a new design with the MacBook (2015) design language will be coming. Wedge shaped, debuting Thunderbolt 3 for Mac, possibly dropping USB-A and maybe even MagSafe 2.
I'm expecting it to come in Silver and Space Grey, perhaps Gold as well... not so sure about Rose Gold, although I actually think a pink MacBook Pro would be pretty cool! The 9.7-inch iPad Pro looks gorgeous in Rose Gold.
As far as I recall, there were next to no accurate leaks about the MacBook Pro with Retina display in 2012, so I'm not surprised that there have been no hardware leaks to do with the 2016 redesign. Macs are produced in far lower volume than iPhones, so leaks tend to be a lot less common with them.
Thank. You. Finally someone mentions aspect ratios. The widescreen aspect ratio is a HUGE reason why I prefer my Surface Book to my rMBP. I love the 3:2 ratio on the SB. I loved it on the Chromebook Pixel as well. It makes a huge difference and makes the 16:9 ratio look strange and flat. I get that it's better for watching videos and such but that's a tiny fraction of users.
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