The next MacBook Pro redesign (merged)

[Woochoo]

There will be the one Macbook not others. Just like there was the one macbook before. They made the keyboard exactly the size of the body and went on and on about it and the proportions being in perfect harmony. etc.
The second tier will be the air replacement whether they call it that or not. It won't have core m. 3rd tier pros.

That's seems logic. But a 12" design doesn't mean there could be a 14" design with 13" form factor, and that would take the Air spot. Again, nobody knows, but they won't stop selling Airs, they will just probably not redesign 3 lines but only 2 (Macbooks and Pros).

I might be.. Who know's.

Maybe not much shows on benchmarks but I can tell the difference easily going from MBP 13 to 15. Could be partially graphics related.
I'd say there is enough of a difference on chips alone but there are more than enough other reasons to have 3 tiers.

Come on guy, you must be kidding or you don't read my answers. My first answer to you:

The only real performance gap is between 15" MBP and the 13" Macbooks

Not only because the graphic, but mostly because the 13" being dual core and the 15" being quad core. Even a 15" from 2012 is way faster than the 13" from last year.

 

[dypeterc]

Let's do MB scissor keyboard to reduce height but keep the MBP keyboard config (all small arrow keys, no funky wide Esc). Have it come down to a wedge like the MB but doesn't need to be as thin to accommodate ports and I/O. Do 1 reg USB and 1 USB-C, a TB, and card reader.

 

[ZeneticX]

Let's do MB scissor keyboard to reduce height but keep the MBP keyboard config (all small arrow keys, no funky wide Esc). Have it come down to a wedge like the MB but doesn't need to be as thin to accommodate ports and I/O. Do 1 reg USB and 1 USB-C, a TB, and card reader.

pls no MB keyboards aka butterfly switches on the MBP pls, those are a PITA to type on, hate the no feedback feeling

 

[nj-morris]

People have probably said this, but how about a design based off the 12-inch MacBook?

Ok, it may be underpowered for some, but you can't ignore how efficient it is. I mean, you can fit a hell of a lot considering the tiny form factor.

So, make it the same 13.1mm thick, shave about a pound off, but with the traditional box shape of the MacBook Pro, so you can fit more stuff in. Then, with the butterfly keyboard, the FT trackpad and a dense logic board, that would leave loads of space for the battery.

In terms of making it Pro, put a full Core i processor equipped with decent specs, add an extra USB-C port and you should be good to go. And just for finishing touches, put killer speakers and a True Tone display

Good enough?

 

[JesperA]

Good enough?

No, far from it, the laptop you describe should just be the 15" Macbook.

 

[Fmello]

I wish Apple would start making 17" Macbook Pros again.

 

[PKBeam]

I wish Apple could give me a free maxed out 2016 15" rMBP.

 

[wankey]

Function keys will become a touch screen.

 

[kanyehameha]

I wish Apple would start making 17" Macbook Pros again.

MacBook Pro Plus

 

[nj-morris]

No, far from it, the laptop you describe should just be the 15" Macbook.

Why would that not count as Pro?

 

[kanyehameha]

I wish Apple could give me a free maxed out 2016 15" rMBP.

Yea, they're insanely overpriced here in Australia

 

[cmChimera]

Why would that not count as Pro?

Because of the very large performance gap between your description and the current Macbook Pro.

 

[izzyfanto]

People have probably said this, but how about a design based off the 12-inch MacBook?

Ok, it may be underpowered for some, but you can't ignore how efficient it is. I mean, you can fit a hell of a lot considering the tiny form factor.

So, make it the same 13.1mm thick, shave about a pound off, but with the traditional box shape of the MacBook Pro, so you can fit more stuff in. Then, with the butterfly keyboard, the FT trackpad and a dense logic board, that would leave loads of space for the battery.

In terms of making it Pro, put a full Core i processor equipped with decent specs, add an extra USB-C port and you should be good to go. And just for finishing touches, put killer speakers and a True Tone display

Good enough?

I think the rMBA we have all been waiting for is what you're describing. Although I can't see them keeping the box shape.

 

[nj-morris]

Because of the very large performance gap between your description and the current Macbook Pro.

I said that it would have a full Core i processor, like the ones in the current MacBook Pro.

 

[PTLove]

I said that it would have a full Core i processor, like the ones in the current MacBook Pro.

The Pro needs to have far more than 2 USB ports as total connections. The point of the Pro is to be a mobile workstation. Its not to be a ultra portable.

 

[nj-morris]

The Pro needs to have far more than 2 USB ports as total connections. The point of the Pro is to be a mobile workstation. Its not to be a ultra portable.

I know a lot of people that have the Pro, and they definitely care about portability. Why not have both portability and productivity?

Plus, I'm not sure if I've seen anybody using a laptop with 3 or more things plugged in at once. At least not within the past few years. 2 should be enough for most. If not, just get an adaptor.

 

[H.Finch]

Any chance for a Pro without fans/moving parts?

This would be my dream personally... I'm really dying to go back to a laptop with external display instead of an iMac + Air... (I love slimming down my products) .... But the only Apple product that ever died on me was my 2006 Macbook Pro... (overheated motherboard/fan issue while in clamshell mode).

 

[nj-morris]

Any chance for a Pro without fans/moving parts?

This would be my dream personally... I'm really dying to go back to a laptop with external display instead of an iMac + Air... (I love slimming down my products) .... But the only Apple product that ever died on me was my 2006 Macbook Pro... (overheated motherboard/fan issue while in clamshell mode).

Not for the next few years, no. The Pro still uses powerful internals, resulting in a lot of heat generated. The best we can hope for is a quiet, super efficient fan.

 

[617aircav]

This is my next computer.

 

[H.Finch]

Thanks for the reply Morris! Sad, but your probably right...

Any numbers of how often the moving parts/fans cause Macbook Pro's to die on people? Maybe I was just unlucky back then, but one can rationalize that a device without moving parts will probably cut down the potential hardware errors by 80+ %.... Although, that’s just my gut feeling... No iDevice ever died on me in 8 years and I've been through some...

 

[PTLove]

I know a lot of people that have the Pro, and they definitely care about portability. Why not have both portability and productivity?

Plus, I'm not sure if I've seen anybody using a laptop with 3 or more things plugged in at once. At least not within the past few years. 2 should be enough for most. If not, just get an adaptor.

Then buy the base Macbook? What doesn't it offer that you need? Id think a 14" MB with a 15W processor is doable.

I often see people trying to make the macbook more like a Pro, or a Pro more like a Macbook. I never understood this. Different people have different needs, Apple shouldn't consolidate these use cases.

 

[cmChimera]

I said that it would have a full Core i processor, like the ones in the current MacBook Pro.

"Full Core i processor" isn't a descriptive statement. There are many different variants of Core i, some of which are more powerful than others, and run at different temperatures and wattages. The U series and the H series are very different, but they are both "full Core i". I'm saying you can't stick the 15 inch's processor and fans in the chassis of a 12" Macbook (sized at 15") and expect it not to be terrible.

Apple can surely shrink the chassis a bit, but your description would be way too much.

 

[nj-morris]

"Full Core i processor" isn't a descriptive statement. There are many different variants of Core i, some of which are more powerful than others, and run at different temperatures and wattages. The U series and the H series are very different, but they are both "full Core i". I'm saying you can't stick the 15 inch's processor and fans in the chassis of a 12" Macbook (sized at 15") and expect it not to be terrible.

Apple can surely shrink the chassis a bit, but your description would be way too much.

Ok, I'm not a MacBook expert, but didn't Apple slim the MacBook Pro down loads before when they released the Retina MacBook? Any power sacrifices there?

 

[zhaf]

I wish Apple would start making 17" Macbook Pros again.

There's still that chance that Apple make the 15" with thinner bezels and turn it into a 16". It's not 17" but it's half way there.

 

[cmChimera]

Ok, I'm not a MacBook expert, but didn't Apple slim the MacBook Pro down loads before when they released the Retina MacBook? Any power sacrifices there?

They did, but they also removed the optical drive, which was huge. The 12" Macbook is that thin because it requires no fans and is running a set of processors that are low wattage. The 15" can't do either of those things.

Don't get me wrong, I think your idea that Apple will thin out the Macbook pro is correct, we're only disagreeing as to the degree of how thin the notebook would be. I'm thinking something as thin or barely thinner than the Macbook Air's thickest point. If it's thinner than that, I'll be impressed.