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Dave245

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Considering they announced the 12" Macbook refresh and the 8GB standard for the Macbook Air, i'm thinking that the Macbook Pro will be getting a substantial upgrade at WWDC, why else would Apple leave out he Macbook Pro and silently update the other 2. Also with Apple moving the WWDC keynote to the much larger Bill Graham Civic building i'm thinking it might be a bigger event than usual (IOS is on it's 10th iteration).
 

Oppenheim

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I just hope the magsafe survives, but the hope is looking slim!

And please not the Macbook One keyboard!

MagSafe? That is like 8 years old now.

The design would have to be totally re-done for a new lighter machine.

We are looking forward to a new machine that's lighter, has better battery and a new OS that's incredibly energy efficient.

Long life + USB-C is what we'll see.

MagSafe is finished.

What I would like to see is a USB-C mag wire.
 
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MagSafe? That is like 8 years old now.
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What I would like to see is a USB-C mag wire.

it's actually 10 years :)

rather than usb-c, which is a waste of ports in a laptop, i'd imagine something like the smart connector of the ipads, flush to the case, attaches magnetically and stays in position.
basically like the magsafe, only without the recessed port. i can dream right?
 

nj-morris

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They did, but they also removed the optical drive, which was huge. The 12" Macbook is that thin because it requires no fans and is running a set of processors that are low wattage. The 15" can't do either of those things.

Don't get me wrong, I think your idea that Apple will thin out the Macbook pro is correct, we're only disagreeing as to the degree of how thin the notebook would be. I'm thinking something as thin or barely thinner than the Macbook Air's thickest point. If it's thinner than that, I'll be impressed.

Another idea: build in a smaller, quiet and efficient fan. And as I say, I'm not really an expert on the processors, so I'm not sure how they could solve that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

Apple has done things like this before. I'm hoping that they could do something like that again.

And also, the MacBook Pro is as thick as the thickest point of the Air:
 

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WiseAJ

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I just hope the magsafe survives, but the hope is looking slim!

And please not the Macbook One keyboard!

I actually really like the new keyboard on the MacBook. I hope they add it to the Pros since I can't see myself ever buying a MacBook.

it's actually 10 years :)

rather than usb-c, which is a waste of ports in a laptop, i'd imagine something like the smart connector of the ipads, flush to the case, attaches magnetically and stays in position.
basically like the magsafe, only without the recessed port. i can dream right?

That's a really nice dream.
 
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Uni Grad

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Another idea: build in a smaller, quiet and efficient fan. And as I say, I'm not really an expert on the processors, so I'm not sure how they could solve that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

Apple has done things like this before. I'm hoping that they could do something like that again.

And also, the MacBook Pro is as thick as the thickest point of the Air:

I think that the new MBPs will retain their box shape, however, they will probably be as thin as the new Macbook (at its thickest point). I see that as a possibility going by what theyve done previously and digitime rumors.
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it's actually 10 years :)

rather than usb-c, which is a waste of ports in a laptop, i'd imagine something like the smart connector of the ipads, flush to the case, attaches magnetically and stays in position.
basically like the magsafe, only without the recessed port. i can dream right?

**** man...that really is genius. They shouldve done that for the new Macbooks.
 

cmChimera

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Another idea: build in a smaller, quiet and efficient fan. And as I say, I'm not really an expert on the processors, so I'm not sure how they could solve that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
I'm willing to bet that they could get slightly thinner than the Air, but not as thin as the new 12" Macbook.

And also, the MacBook Pro is as thick as the thickest point of the Air:
It's not though. The Macbook Pro is 0.71 inches thick, while the Macbook Air is .68 inches thick. It's close though. Close enough to make me think they could get thinner than that number.
 

toddzrx

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They did, but they also removed the optical drive, which was huge. The 12" Macbook is that thin because it requires no fans and is running a set of processors that are low wattage. The 15" can't do either of those things.

Don't get me wrong, I think your idea that Apple will thin out the Macbook pro is correct, we're only disagreeing as to the degree of how thin the notebook would be. I'm thinking something as thin or barely thinner than the Macbook Air's thickest point. If it's thinner than that, I'll be impressed.

What I have a hard time seeing is a tapered design for the Pro. A lot of forum posters keep asking for that, but I don't see how that's possible given the power requirements and desired battery life of the Pro. Like you said, I think we might see a marginally thinner frame than the current ones, but that's about it.
 

nj-morris

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I think that the new MBPs will retain their box shape, however, they will probably be as thin as the new Macbook (at its thickest point). I see that as a possibility going by what theyve done previously and digitime rumors.

True. I suggested that earlier on (see below). I'm starting to think that cmChimera might be right in that they wouldn't be able to fit a Pro into that body though. But knowing Apple, it could be possible.

So, make it the same 13.1mm thick, shave about a pound off, but with the traditional box shape of the MacBook Pro, so you can fit more stuff in. Then, with the butterfly keyboard, the FT trackpad and a dense logic board, that would leave loads of space for the battery.
 

Uni Grad

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What I have a hard time seeing is a tapered design for the Pro. A lot of forum posters keep asking for that, but I don't see how that's possible given the power requirements and desired battery life of the Pro. Like you said, I think we might see a marginally thinner frame than the current ones, but that's about it.

I think if we do see a tapered design...it will be extremely subtle - like the Surface Book.
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Not for the next few years, no. The Pro still uses powerful internals, resulting in a lot of heat generated. The best we can hope for is a quiet, super efficient fan.

I think they might use a liquid cooling system found in recent phones and tablets...the correct term would be heat pipe cooling. This would the make the Pro a fanless/no-moving-parts device.
 

nj-morris

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I think they might use a liquid cooling system found in recent phones and tablets...the correct term would be heat pipe cooling. This would the make the Pro a fanless/no-moving-parts device.

Good point. But I don't think that it's enough for a phone, as the Galaxy S7 for instance has been reported to heat up despite the liquid cooling. You think it will be enough for a high end laptop?
 

PTLove

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I think if we do see a tapered design...it will be extremely subtle - like the Surface Book.
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I think they might use a liquid cooling system found in recent phones and tablets...the correct term would be heat pipe cooling. This would the make the Pro a fanless/no-moving-parts device.

They would still need the fan to exhaust the heat. Heatpipes are very good at moving heat around, but they dont make it disappear. Something has to cool it off.
 

Uni Grad

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They would still need the fan to exhaust the heat. Heatpipes are very good at moving heat around, but they dont make it disappear. Something has to cool it off.

Well I was referring to Acer's fanless heatpipe cooling mechanism...where its essentially a loop that relies on phase changes and cooling mechanisms that are powered by the internal heat. Therefore, not needing a fan at all. Though, I personally cannot assess its functionality; from what I've read ...despite being a bit warm, it does its job well. Obviously, it wont be able to thermoregate the quadcore CPUs, however a 15 W dualcore might be do-able.
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Good point. But I don't think that it's enough for a phone, as the Galaxy S7 for instance has been reported to heat up despite the liquid cooling. You think it will be enough for a high end laptop?
In my answer above, I' m referring to Acer's new fanless liquid cooling mechanism which thermoregulates the i7 cpu. So if Acer can liquid cool the i7 processor, Im sure Apple can do way better...or atleast that.
 
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nj-morris

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In my answer above, I' m referring to Acer's new fanless liquid cooling mechanism which thermoregulates the i7 cpu. So if Acer can liquid cool the i7 processor, Im sure Apple can do way better...or atleast that.

I believe you. I was just basing my statement on what I know.
 

Trahearne

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In my answer above, I' m referring to Acer's new fanless liquid cooling mechanism which thermoregulates the i7 cpu. So if Acer can liquid cool the i7 processor, Im sure Apple can do way better...or atleast that.
i5 and i7 can mean 15W dual-core (some configurable to 7.5W TDP), 28/35W dual-core and 47W quad-core. In Acer's case, it could be a 15W dual-core processor configured for 7.5W so that it can be fanless.

The need of a fan is dictated by the law of physics, I... suppose?
 

journeyy

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I think the 13" MBP could switch to the 15W CPUs. With the improved GPU of the Kaby Lake generation it should still be powerful enough and will allow a slim&light notebook. 28W would be reserved to the 15" MBP
 

JamonBull

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I am upgrading from my late 2013 15" MacBook Pro to whatever Apple's 2016 offering is. What do you think the likelihood is of Touch ID in a redesigned MacBook Pro and a True Tone display?
 
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nicovh

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I am upgrading from my late 2013 15" MacBook Pro to whatever Apple's 2016 offering is. What do you think the likelihood is of Touch ID in a redesigned MacBook Pro and a True Tone display?

This is my guess:

Likelihood of Touch ID, 25% chance

Likelihood TrueTone display 66.6%

I personally believe a TrueTone display would be so amazing on a laptop. Since an iPad is used in the places & environment as laptops, I think it's a logical and beneficial move to implement such a feature.
As for Touch ID, I don't really know.
 

Seed101

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if apple downgrades the 15" to dual core, XPS 15 sales will skyrocket.

They wouldn't do that would they?
I'm holding off to see what apple come up with...a dual core 15 would be nuts given the 13 is dual core, right!?!?
 

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If they do a dual core mbp15 they would announced both at march event since the cpu were already available. So 100% chance quad core
 

Wowereit

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They won't switch to dual core for the 15".
If they do, there isn't any Apple notebook left to deserve the Pro moniker and there wouldn't be any mobile quad core in Apple's lineup anymore, which would result in huge backfire from the professional community.

If they stop producing quad core notebooks, I'm probably not the only one who would instantly switch to a combination of Windows and Linux.
 
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