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The next MacBook Pro redesign (merged)
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There's nothing infantile with buying a competitor. That's what competition is for. If Apple's offerings are not meeting your needs or is not worth the price, you look elsewhere. As consumers, we need to vote with our wallets. Your mentality of buying and waiting for Apple no matter what only hurts consumers in the long run, and likely part of the reason Apple has little incentive to regularly update other Macs in the line up.
Wow this thread is 3 years old, let's hope it does not make 4
Phone screens aren't switched on very much, you'd probably not trigger image retention in normal usage.
You'd see it more with AMOLED - e.g. in Android phones http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-screen-burns-your-nexus-6-other-amoled-device-0159397/
I've had an AMOLED device for nearly a year, and I haven't had any ghosting issues, apart from one time in which it faded away in a matter of seconds. This issue is hugely overblown.
But it I a 'fixed' issue. I can't stress that enough. I might as well not have even brought up that example, because it was that minor. That's how much of a non-issue this is.
Plus, why would they have used it on the
Watch if they thought it had problems?Plus, why would they have used it on the
Because it is not a problem with a screen that is only turned on a couple of seconds at a time.
It isn't a fixed issue just because you say it is. If it was, we'd be seeing OLED laptops all over the place.But it I a 'fixed' issue. I can't stress that enough. I might as well not have even brought up that example, because it was that minor. That's how much of a non-issue this is.
Plus, why would they have used it on the
Articles from late last year documenting LG's intent on making OLED PC monitors.
http://www.oled-info.com/lg-display-aims-produce-oled-panels-monitors-laptops-2017
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1449729114
Looks to me like they've got a solution and are trying to mass produce it to market.
No, they are beating the Dell XPS series in a lot of comparisons. They are still the best you can buy today in my opinion, but obviously the next will be better so buying a current one so close to a redesign means a) you're losing out on all the upgrades of the 2016 model and b) resale value will be lower.
And I'm sure Apple has a relationship with LG that allows them to try out those monitors. My guess would be that they're not good enough yet, though.
Otherwise they would be all over the place, as I said.
I know that no one knows for sure, but do you think it's likely that the new rMPB will not include USB, HDMI, SD card reader? Also, do you think the keys are going be shallowed more like the rMB? Trying to decide if I should past-proof my gear and just get the 2015 model with the ports. I don't want a bunch of USB-C dongles.
Just go with the flow, unless you can't afford to upgrade a few bits or buy dongles. Its a hassle, but it is quite possible USB C (looks like) single port solution is both here to stay, and as simple as a wired solution could ever be. I don't like the hassle of yet another new connection either, but am going to embrace it anyway.
I already own a rMB and I don't care for the dongles at all. Unsightly creatures they are. I used my wife's MBA for a while and having the standard ports back was very nice. Plus, the rMB keyboard is just not as conformable to use as I thought it was at first. The older raised keys result in much more accurate typing for me.
I'm not fond of them either - nor the fact that the keyboard covers the entire width with no space. It's all squashed.
I hope they don't put the keyboard on the MBP and I doubt they will - the only reason for its creation was due to the extremely slim size of the MacBook. The MBP will be thinner but not MB thin.
Think Again!
I bought a MacBook Pro in 2007. Despite the age, it still works great! Unfortunately, the battery gave out and I need a replacement. I called Apple Support for help and was underwhelmed to say the least.
The first person I spoke with couldn't help so I asked to speak with someone who may have more resources at their disposal. The next person I spoke with came on the line with some serious attitude like "wow, your an idiot for owning such an old model so I'm going to talk to you like I would a child" sort of attitude.
She also said Apple can't help me. I let her know that with a quick search online, I found multiple places that carry a battery for my model. She essentially said "great, go for it, we can't help you."
Thanks Apple. Having been a customer for my entire working career (over 30 years) I'm really disappointed to find that you can't treat your customers with a little more respect and think a bit outside the box to solve my dilemma.
Though I was planning on buying another Apple laptop within the next 6 months, I'm going to rethink that decision and try my hardest to see what alternatives I have in doing so.
-SB
That post is 3 years old by the way! Kind of funny how he was worried about missing a big redesign back then in 2013 and we STILL don't have it in 2016. He had no idea how much time he had...
So I've heard in this forum (as well as other places) that Apple switches out the GPUs every two years. Sine its currently on AMD, I'm told the next release will include Nvidias (which I really need for CUDA).
I was hoping there would be news about a new MBP at WWDC this week, alas there was none. Whats the likelihood (everyone's thoughts on the likelihood) the next MBP will include Nvidia? What about it being released in 2016? The roundup at https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/macbook-pro/ says its likely but I'm not certain how much stock to put in it. Are these just that (rumors), or something more substantive like leaks from employees that (for legal reasons) might have to be qualified as rumors?
I was hoping there would be news about a new MBP at WWDC this week, alas there was none. Whats the likelihood (everyone's thoughts on the likelihood) the next MBP will include Nvidia? What about it being released in 2016? The roundup at https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/macbook-pro/ says its likely but I'm not certain how much stock to put in it. Are these just that (rumors), or something more substantive like leaks from employees that (for legal reasons) might have to be qualified as rumors?
You can find parts on ifixit.com, great site I've gotten great battery service form them when I got one that was under performing based on design spec (MBP 2010) they sent another, when that went the same they sent me another. I left it at that even if the third battery didn't perform it was fine. No idea how they make a buck but that was awesome service.
What do people think about the chances of (all on the 15"):
4K or wide-gamut display? It wouldn't have to be OLED - the latest iMacs have really nice high-resolution, relatively wide gamut LCDs (they have been full sRGB for years, and the latest version is P3, a digital cinema standard similar to Adobe RGB). I'd love to see a P3 display (and the 9.7" iPad Pro even has one).
32 GB RAM? Of course it would be an upgrade, and Apple might charge several arms and legs for it! Having it available would make a big difference for pro photo and video work.
2 TB drive space? Another pricy upgrade for sure...
If none of the above appear, I could actually see the new model being a downgrade...
Skylake is a 10% speed boost - not a big deal (maybe also 10% in battery life largely due to improved idling, on a machine that already has superb idle power consumption).
Polaris is a big GPU boost (on the one model that gets it)
BUT
It looks almost certain that we lose all ports other than USB-C. This means dongles for every standard peripheral, which is a pretty significant downgrade. My best example is that reading an SD card from my camera (one of the most common things I do on my computer) goes from "stick it in the side" to "attach a dongle, then attach a second peripheral to the dongle, then put the card in the second peripheral" (neither B+H nor Newegg yet show a direct-attach USB-C SD reader - there are one or two for Micro SD only, plus a couple of CFast or XQD readers that also read SD, but are larger and connect via cable). Using a projector goes from "attach it to the HDMI port" to "find the dongle, hope it isn't broken (because it's too new for University IT to have a backup), then worry about two connections coming loose". Thunderbolt storage (other than the very newest TB3 drives) needs a $100 active adapter. Every dongle needs a backup, because the darn things break all the time.
At least to me, dongles aren't worth it for Skylake alone - and Polaris would have to be pretty impressive to compensate for them... A smaller, lighter computer doesn't matter to me - the 15" rMBP is hardly a monster. If it picks up 4K, or improvements in RAM and drive limits, that starts to be worth dealing with the dongles.
4K or wide-gamut display? It wouldn't have to be OLED - the latest iMacs have really nice high-resolution, relatively wide gamut LCDs (they have been full sRGB for years, and the latest version is P3, a digital cinema standard similar to Adobe RGB). I'd love to see a P3 display (and the 9.7" iPad Pro even has one).
32 GB RAM? Of course it would be an upgrade, and Apple might charge several arms and legs for it! Having it available would make a big difference for pro photo and video work.
2 TB drive space? Another pricy upgrade for sure...
If none of the above appear, I could actually see the new model being a downgrade...
Skylake is a 10% speed boost - not a big deal (maybe also 10% in battery life largely due to improved idling, on a machine that already has superb idle power consumption).
Polaris is a big GPU boost (on the one model that gets it)
BUT
It looks almost certain that we lose all ports other than USB-C. This means dongles for every standard peripheral, which is a pretty significant downgrade. My best example is that reading an SD card from my camera (one of the most common things I do on my computer) goes from "stick it in the side" to "attach a dongle, then attach a second peripheral to the dongle, then put the card in the second peripheral" (neither B+H nor Newegg yet show a direct-attach USB-C SD reader - there are one or two for Micro SD only, plus a couple of CFast or XQD readers that also read SD, but are larger and connect via cable). Using a projector goes from "attach it to the HDMI port" to "find the dongle, hope it isn't broken (because it's too new for University IT to have a backup), then worry about two connections coming loose". Thunderbolt storage (other than the very newest TB3 drives) needs a $100 active adapter. Every dongle needs a backup, because the darn things break all the time.
At least to me, dongles aren't worth it for Skylake alone - and Polaris would have to be pretty impressive to compensate for them... A smaller, lighter computer doesn't matter to me - the 15" rMBP is hardly a monster. If it picks up 4K, or improvements in RAM and drive limits, that starts to be worth dealing with the dongles.
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