I don't think it's a good idea logistic wise for Apple to release the new iPhone and Macs together. iPhone releases are always big and messy, especially when it's a new number not just adding an "s" (like from 5s to 6 instead of 6 to 6s). And releasing an highly anticipated Mac computer product at the same time will be a challenging task even for Apple's supply chain, logistic, and retailer channel resources.
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I don't think it's a good idea logistic wise for Apple to release the new iPhone and Macs together. iPhone releases are always big and messy, especially when it's a new number not just adding an "s" (like from 5s to 6 instead of 6 to 6s). And releasing an highly anticipated Mac computer product at the same time will be a challenging task even for Apple's supply chain, logistic, and retailer channel resources.
They are growing at a faster rate because they started much lower. Once they start reaching for the same performance regions as Haswell progress will be much harder.
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At the core iOS and OS X are identical. It's just the GUI that is different.
Form all the rumours and various threads I've managed to read, but not all. I started to get this picture.
What if the OLED leak is actually hiding an OLED screen for the new upcoming MBP, a very clever deflection.
The way I see the OLED strip in the development cycle is thus, where a roll out of this tech on the MBP platform will help them establish the perfection of it when it comes to be deployed for iPhone 8. If you look at the rumoured strip it's nothing else than an OLED with TID button on it, which is essentially what the iPhone 8 is rumoured to be. It will have a larger screen.
Why not go for Full screen now as well? The Pro range is alway top of the range price wise, people will pay for a (perceived) better screen tech as that's the pro market.
So why not roll out the tech on the MBP range as Apple can use this time to tweak it's systems, establish suppliers source and tool up and work on getting the cost price of OLED down so when the iPhone 8 comes around everything is optimised and profitable the Apple way but without raising retail prices.
if OLED screens are going to appear, it has to be they'll appear on the PRO machines first based on the above logic it makes sense right?
What will this do to battery life, great things if you have a thinner body and less space for battery. So why not OLED now? Perhaps this is the best kept secret? The OLED strip an indirect play off a a full MBP OLED screen roll out.
Also I was thinking about the hinge. What if it was more than that. What does it indicate.
Is it the case that an OLED screen can be made thinner because by it's very nature OLED is generally lighter (please correct me if I am wrong here but if I remember OLED is lighter) and thus you can use such a hinge, save more weight and gain better power consumption keeping performance to expected or better levels?
I really do think if APPLE is going to try OLED the MBP range would be the one to start with.
Further note to my thoughts. I really don't look at other laptops so I'm not familiar with how common OLED screens have become in laptops. I know they are common now in other smartphone models. I had an android Super AMOLED S5 Mini and the iPhone 6s screen of the same resolution is a better screen hands down. Not all OLED is the same calibre like any tech, there are levels to the quality. `I would expect APPLE would want to excel enough to surpass expectations at this juncture.
What if the OLED leak is actually hiding an OLED screen for the new upcoming MBP, a very clever deflection.
The way I see the OLED strip in the development cycle is thus, where a roll out of this tech on the MBP platform will help them establish the perfection of it when it comes to be deployed for iPhone 8. If you look at the rumoured strip it's nothing else than an OLED with TID button on it, which is essentially what the iPhone 8 is rumoured to be. It will have a larger screen.
Why not go for Full screen now as well? The Pro range is alway top of the range price wise, people will pay for a (perceived) better screen tech as that's the pro market.
So why not roll out the tech on the MBP range as Apple can use this time to tweak it's systems, establish suppliers source and tool up and work on getting the cost price of OLED down so when the iPhone 8 comes around everything is optimised and profitable the Apple way but without raising retail prices.
if OLED screens are going to appear, it has to be they'll appear on the PRO machines first based on the above logic it makes sense right?
What will this do to battery life, great things if you have a thinner body and less space for battery. So why not OLED now? Perhaps this is the best kept secret? The OLED strip an indirect play off a a full MBP OLED screen roll out.
Also I was thinking about the hinge. What if it was more than that. What does it indicate.
Is it the case that an OLED screen can be made thinner because by it's very nature OLED is generally lighter (please correct me if I am wrong here but if I remember OLED is lighter) and thus you can use such a hinge, save more weight and gain better power consumption keeping performance to expected or better levels?
I really do think if APPLE is going to try OLED the MBP range would be the one to start with.
Further note to my thoughts. I really don't look at other laptops so I'm not familiar with how common OLED screens have become in laptops. I know they are common now in other smartphone models. I had an android Super AMOLED S5 Mini and the iPhone 6s screen of the same resolution is a better screen hands down. Not all OLED is the same calibre like any tech, there are levels to the quality. `I would expect APPLE would want to excel enough to surpass expectations at this juncture.
Despite Tim Cook's promise to "double down on secrecy" in 2012, we'd probably have heard more about this by now, whether from an analyst or supplier leak. But OLED displays have started to appear in laptops, so it's not completely out of the range of possibility. Dealing with image retention remains an issue, though.
I've never witnessed image retention on any phone screen. Is it that bad a technical problem. However if so maybe they've solved it?
Your phone screen is REALLY good OLED because it's a smaller size. The higher the size, the lower the quality. (It's a rough rule, there are differences. Obviously all OLED displays in the same series will be the same quality.)
Funny thing I found this thread looking up the issue - here, https://www.avforums.com/threads/do-oled-tvs-suffer-screen-image-retention-burn.1913131/
Makes a very good point and reminds me that I was in a electronics shop yesterday and forgot that a lot of the new models TV makers are rolling out lots of super huge screens right now that are OLED based. Image retention is something that nearly every screen tech has suffered from, eh screen savers anyone?
The full motion video/cable input seems to be fine in a TV Shop. In fact the screen are fairly awesome. So what's the real problem here?
Real world the tech seems to be more than ready and is available to buy from multiple brands.
Further to that I have a 7 year old plasma TV and when I think about it it does suffer from some image retention but film and motion are thoroughly enjoyable to view. In fact they don't suffer the "soap opera" ghosting effect form the other TV that had higher frame rates with some frame inbetweenign done on the fly which made for ghastly viewing.
I think all these technologies have their initial weaknesses which are overcome by engineering overtime. Sure I remember losing a pixel or two on a LCD panel at one point was nothing to write home about, you got use to it and manufactures had competing tables as who had less pixel death on average, but that's a problem I haven't seen since the very early 00's and did that stop LCD flat panel taking over the market, no way did it and there were many other issues with LCD's having less colour gamut that CRT, but that's like a different universe at this point.
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OLED will never come on MacBooks until they fix burn in. On a desktop, the dock bar, or the menu bar are static items, areas that are more likely to experience burn in. On a phone, everything is static. You press an app frequently.
Right now, IPS LED-backlit LCD displays are a mature tech. It's the perfect time to buy products with these, as you won't experience any problems. Im sure I can say the same about OLED in 6 or 7 years.
Right now, IPS LED-backlit LCD displays are a mature tech. It's the perfect time to buy products with these, as you won't experience any problems. Im sure I can say the same about OLED in 6 or 7 years.
Been following this for long enough. Just didn't have anything to add. Of course there are those who would know much more than me and didn't say that I was 100% right either.
But oh well. We'll see what happens tomorrow. I'll either be happy or disappointed.
As much as want a full OLED display with this update, I really think we would have heard more about potential suppliers for OLED displays and their ramp up if they were really going that route. Maybe the OLED display is going to be available in a later refresh. My guess is just not this time, unfortunately.
Arghhhhhhh!!! Again, Nothing yet!!! Maybe in the next few minutes, but we are running out of time for a substantial announcement. I am waiting, yet again!! I have had my $$ set aside for nearly 3 years for a new MacBook Pro. Discretionary purchase. Still waiting 
It's like dying for a new car, but each new model year does not bring the model redesign you have been dying to buy
It's like dying for a new car, but each new model year does not bring the model redesign you have been dying to buy
Hey, if it means we get an OLED display, I'm more than happy to wait.
That said, I seriously doubt we'll get an oled display
That said, I seriously doubt we'll get an oled display
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