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What can I say? It does look generic to me. :rolleyes:

And nowhere did I 'slam' it.

Also, that horizon game isn't really the point. But I don't see anything remotely resembling stuff like SmashBros, Splatoon, Mario 2d + 3d, MKart, Pikmin, that Toad game , Mario Maker etc pp on neither of the other two consoles (speaking AAA kind of polish here not indie). So I do think focusing on the hardware aspects is missing the point.

It's all about the games for me at this point. Hardware is so 2000s ;)
 
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So as well as Zelda BOTW and Bomberman R on cartridge, i am planning on purchasing from the eshop day 1

I am Setsuna
Fast Racing RMX
Snipperclips (if it can be played solo)
Shovel Knight - Treasure trove


Hardware wise I went with

The Grey Switch
Pro Controller
Nintendo / Hori Case
Nintendo screen protector

128gb Class 10 U3 micro SD.
 
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I've gone with:

Grey Switch console
1 2 Switch (in a weird turn of events I'm now so excited for this!)
Zelda BOTW
Already got my 128GB SD card ready
SnipperClips should be day 1 but now I want the neon joycon bundle with the SnipperClips download code in it...
I do want Fast RMX but not sure...
And I really want Bomberman.
I need to pick up a hard case.

My damn wallet.
 
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It's one day of frustration but really is just #first-world-problems is it worth writing a letter for ? ...

On bright side you'll have it this Saturday so the wait is coming to an end and we have had a long wait for BOTW will one extra day be too traumatic ...
True. I am supposed to be saving it until my son's birthday in April anyways....
 
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Been watching some reviews and mostly positive except for IGN, but they do make some interesting points, mainly about performance and longevity of the console.

I'm thinking if I should buy it this Friday or wait. After seeing the IGN review I'm having doubts.
 
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Been watching some reviews and mostly positive except for IGN, but they do make some interesting points, mainly about performance and longevity of the console.

I'm thinking if I should buy it this Friday or wait. After seeing the IGN review I'm having doubts.

The reviews I've seen have all gone out of their way to qualify the praise to be apply most to the device as a handheld, whilst quietly expressing some doubt about its chops as a home console. I've also seen more than few absurd ones that have tread perilously close to advising people to pick it up because it's a 'unique piece of hardware'. :rolleyes:
 
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Been watching some reviews and mostly positive except for IGN, but they do make some interesting points, mainly about performance and longevity of the console.

I'm thinking if I should buy it this Friday or wait. After seeing the IGN review I'm having doubts.

Kinda surprised at their score. The IGN Nintendo voice chat is my go-to podcast cause of Jose and Peer, and I thoroughly enjoyed the podcasts when Matt,Mark&Craig were the Nintendo team there.

Thus far, the only concerning things I've read in reviews is the drop in FPS in Zelda in console mode and the 'de-sync' joy-con issue. Hopefully all that gets ironed out in the day one patch.

Eurogamer's review mentioned that it's on par with the Shield TV, and they managed to get GCN games via emulation to run on the shield in 1080p at 30fps. Giggedy!!
 
Kinda surprised at their score. The IGN Nintendo voice chat is my go-to podcast cause of Jose and Peer, and I thoroughly enjoyed the podcasts when Matt,Mark&Craig were the Nintendo team there.

Thus far, the only concerning things I've read in reviews is the drop in FPS in Zelda in console mode and the 'de-sync' joy-con issue. Hopefully all that gets ironed out in the day one patch.

Eurogamer's review mentioned that it's on par with the Shield TV, and they managed to get GCN games via emulation to run on the shield in 1080p at 30fps. Giggedy!!
Actually I'm not too surprised by the hardware score itself, we all know that it is overall a compromised console hardware wise. There simply isn't any point denying that. It's what myself and others have been saying since the unveiling of the Switch and even running up to it ...

(Outside of that, the kickstand seems to be a common point hardware wise that all reviewers are pointing out is not great build quality wise).

But reality check time, we all know that this is a machine of compromise whether it be underpowered in dock mode as a home console, with what seems half-baked solution to online gameplay (any new console hardware device that is from outset reliant on third party hardware to deliver a solution to something like online voice chat and multiplayer lobby creation has a major flaw) or in its Tablet mode with the short battery life, no street pass and small fiddly button layout on the joy-cons (not to mention it's current Bluetooth desync issue) ...

Factor in the high price for hardware and accessories and the tiny 32gb internal storage and yes, it is when considered entirely on it's hardware merit alone a 6.7 / 10 (indeed that might be generous).

And yes, it does look like from a hardware power POV, the switch is being maxed out day 1 with Zelda at 900p, so we shouldn't expect too much future evolution of game fidelity as the device is already pushing it's limits. It explains why footage analysis shows Mario Odyssey is running maxed at 720p with no anti-aliasing and same for Splatoon 2. Wii U port MK8 is running 1080p but no anti-aliasing either ...

But the reason any of us who are actually picking this up for remains consistent and that's to play those first party Nintendo titles at the end of the day. We're not buying them for it being the best tablet device or powerful home console, because it's neither of those things from a hardware standing. But what it is, is the only platform we are going to see the future batch of first party games developed on. Because of that many of us are willing to see past or overlook the hardware shortcomings.

If Mario Odyssey and Zelda, Metroid, animal crossing, captain toad, pikmin and such were also launching on Xbox 1 and PS4 Pro, then indeed the hardware would then become a very contentious factor and we would likely buy those games on other hardware if they provided improved graphics, frame rates and a more robust online service. But we can't....

We have to compromise our hardware expectations in order to play those titles (nintendo gives us no other choice) and we do so in the hope that those first party games will provide us with a fantastic game.

If it turns out that future game quality veers closer to Wii U's Star Fox than Zelda BOTW quality, then we will have a problem with the hardware and software ....

Until then the hardware, is secondary to the software. And that's where and why I have been hesitant the most, simply by the lack of first party announcements ....

Hopefully E3 as I've said before brings more game announcements.

If it turns out I've bought a Switch for a mere handful of games, well I've wasted far worse money wise on gaming. (Considering how much I must have spent on Skylanders figures alone each for each new game in the franchise would likely pay for 3 switches alone) ....
 
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Kinda surprised at their score.

Thus far, the only concerning things I've read in reviews is the drop in FPS in Zelda in console mode and the 'de-sync' joy-con issue. Hopefully all that gets ironed out in the day one patch.

Personally, I don't care much about IGN. They always seem heavily biased towards majority/mainstream opinions and don't judge stuff on an individual basis.

Anyway, that joycon issue I guess will be ironed out pretty soon - but Zelda is basically a wiiU port so I wouldn't count on the technical problems being patched out (nor to take it as a benchmark for the capabilities of the switch).
That said, I believe Bloodbourne for example was quite choppy at times as well and people still had no problem to utterly enjoy it - so for me personally it isn't the one and only criteria whether to enjoy a game or not.

For me the decision would be easy: Do I want to play Nintendo first party games? If yes, then I'd buy their console. Also, what others described as gimmickly I'd call inventive - offTV play is awesome and unique, playing FPS (or RE4) with motion controls is awesome and unique, creating my very own Mario levels via touchpad is awesome and unique..it may not be for everybody but I'm rather glad we have a competitor that tries to (re-)invent a niche.

If I hadn't my WiiU already (and/or much moer time to play games in the first place) I'd get a switch without a blink but now I just buy Zelda for the WiiU and wait what happens in the next 1-2 years I guess. Maybe there is a hardware revision in 2019 or so then I'll be ready.. ;)
 
Zelda reviews pouring in.
'A breathtaking masterpiece' was my favourite summary so far. :D

I just love how Nintendo can consistently do this with their bigger games.
Never have I ever felt that their AAA output will be anything short of fantastic. I have so much faith in them as a company from a software perspective, and still do from a hardware one too. For better or worse! (Wii U...)

Sure, the Switch has its shortcomings, but so does every console especially at launch.

A lot of the problems that people are mentioning in their Switch reviews are things that can be ironed out and rectified.
People often forget that the PS4 and Xbox One launched without features that the previous gen had had for years.
Madness.

My fondest gaming moments are all on Nintendo consoles. Particularly the DS which had some amazing games and experiences all down to the hardware. Another Code, Hotel Dusk, Elite Beat Agents.
I'm hoping Nintendo will have a success on their hands with the Switch and we can get some more unique experiences that i'll have just as fond memories of.

I will always put my faith in them as I buy into the experiences their games give me. And frankly nothing comes close.

Tonight is the true Christmas Eve!
1 DAY TO GO. HYPE IS IN OVERLOAD.
 
Reviews are amazing, but I expected nothing less for Zelda, its exactly my point that the 6.7 out of 10 for hardware review from IGN is neither here nor there, as its the first party titles like this that we will make purchase decision on... I am waiting for a video on Switch / Wii U comparison version to see how they hold up to each other.


1,2 Switch on the other hand is exactly as expected ... a meh! party game that will be long forgotten in a months time.
 
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I am waiting for a video on Switch / Wii U comparison version to see how they hold up to each other.

Tell me once you've found and watched it! :D

I decided to get it on the WiiU for now - but would like to know the differences between digital download and disc version. Obviously I'd prefer the disc version because...physical ftw!...but if the downloaded version is much snappier I might take that one.
 
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There's no difference between the digital and physical editions, of course. Why whould there be? Its not like the internal drive is running at 3Gbit/s reads.

The WiiU version is lacking some ambient sounds, and is running at a lower resolution, compared to the Switch version.

Ars Technica reviewed Zelda to be just about the best in the series. That's a nice thing to hear.
 
Tell me once you've found and watched it! :D

I decided to get it on the WiiU for now - but would like to know the differences between digital download and disc version. Obviously I'd prefer the disc version because...physical ftw!...but if the downloaded version is much snappier I might take that one.

It does strike me as strange that none of the reviews posted on YT are saying whether they are Wii U or Switch, which leads me to believe so far they are all switch. I wonder if the Wii U version is still under 'embargo'.

I'm sure Digital Foundry will be doing a comparison as well as tech analysis on both, but likely that will be in the next day or so, and by then most of us hungry zelda nuts will have picked up a copy regardless of whether Wii U or Switch for the differences to change our purchase decision ...
 
There's no difference between the digital and physical editions, of course. Why whould there be? Its not like the internal drive is running at 3Gbit/s reads.

Hmm..interesting. You are sure about that? Always thought games installed 100% on the internal hdd are a bit snappier (less long loading times for example). I have only ZombiU in both versions but never really compared them - maybe the only difference is the absence of the disc drive noises.
 
The WiiU version is lacking some ambient sounds, and is running at a lower resolution, compared to the Switch version.

According to some comparison videos that were based on earlier build of Wii U between the two showed differences also in lighting, draw distances and noticeable ansiotropic filtering differences. But again this was unfair comparison as two different builds, so it will be interesting to see regardless what the finished differences are (outside or resolution) if any.
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Hmm..interesting. You are sure about that? Always thought games installed 100% on the internal hdd are a bit snappier (less long loading times for example). I have only ZombiU in both versions but never really compared them - maybe the only difference is the absence of the disc drive noises.

Yeah for example Xenoblade Chronicles X had a later option to install 12gb to your HDD in order to explicitly speed up the loading of the game compared to it being just on the disc. So HDD clearly had some speed benefits.

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Well if this video is legit, then the Wii U & Switch versions are pretty much identical bar the small resolution boost ...

If you have a Wii U, looks like you can safely pick up its version and wait for price drop and more games on Switch.

 
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Yes, draw distance is supposedly better on the switch.

Wrong thread but I'd also like to know if performance on the WiiU in offTV mode is different as well :p
 
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Yes, draw distance is supposedly better on the switch.

Wrong thread but I'd also like to know if performance on the WiiU in offTV mode is different as well :p

From the comparison video above, draw distance looks the same to me, even texture work looks identical. The only difference I can see is the small resolution boost difference (more aliasing on the Wii U version, but not dramatic) .


Off TV mode should make no difference for Wii U.
 
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From the comparison video above, draw distance looks the same to me, even texture work looks identical. The only difference I can see is the small resolution boost difference (more aliasing on the Wii U version, but not dramatic) .


Off TV mode should make no difference for Wii U.

Thanks. I don't really care anyway - I have enough faith in Nintendo that they don't publish a (super important) AAA title which is nigh unplayable anyway. Game seems to be amazing - now I just need time to play, lol.
 
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Zelda looks outstanding. Good launch title!

If I were Nintendo, I would have canned the Wii U version to boost Switch sales! :D
 
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I think i'd prefer to see a seamless 720p30 on the switch than an occasionally choppy 900p experience. I'm not too fussed about the resolution personally, but frame rate dips is something i would notice. I'm hoping the day1patch can fix that via a driver update or something.

Regarding the kickstand.... While I know many reviewers have mentioned it(negatively). I'll wager that it was made 'flimsy' on purpose, because they probably expect people to mishandle it, so at least this way, it's easier to reattach. IMHO.

Cheers
 
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Zelda looks outstanding. Good launch title!

If I were Nintendo, I would have canned the Wii U version to boost Switch sales! :D
That would've "forced" me to buy a Switch for sure :D Nintendo needs some of that courage Apple has to pull such a move lol.

Another Zelda masterpiece. As I mentioned before I've never gotten into any open world type game before. It just seems to me much time is wasted with aimless wandering about, and IGN's review more or less confirms as much - "I’ve been running around for over 50 hours and I still have plenty of mysteries left to track down and lots of wonderfully crafted puzzles to solve" - right in the opening paragraph of the review.

If Best Buy happens to have a Switch on the shelf tomorrow, I'll pick it up along with Zelda. If not I'll just buy the Wii U version.
 
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As I mentioned before I've never gotten into any open world type game before. It just seems to me much time is wasted with aimless wandering about, and IGN's review more or less confirms as much - "I’ve been running around for over 50 hours and I still have plenty of mysteries left to track down and lots of wonderfully crafted puzzles to solve" - right in the opening paragraph of the review.

This is basically me.
I hate not having a path to follow in video games. And it's the very reason why I've never completed a Zelda game despite playing them all apart from the SNES ones and Majora's Mask.

I get far, but get stuck, get bored, turn off and don't go back to it.

I know BOTW is the first big 'open world' Zelda which means I will probably give up even earlier. :p
I don't want to this time though. With all of these reviews, how can I not force myself to get into this and see it to the end?! I can't miss a masterpiece!!
 
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