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So Mario will be 720P?

I guess we won't see much games at 1080P then?

And I guess it's true Zelda is maxing out the consoles power, and therefore we can't expect much better in the future.

I love Nintendo games, and I miss playing them, but for me personally graphics are very important aswell.

I don't know what to do.

I want to play Mario, Zelda and Super Smash Bros when it comes out, but I also don't like paying 300€ in 2017 for 720P games when I love 1080P in my PS4 too much and even want more.

I think this feels more like a handheld console than a home console, which is how I'm looking it at.

But it would be a huge disappointment buying it now and finding out later that most games are light versions or simple mobile games.

Temper your expectations power wise, expect just slightly better than Wii U.

Remember that's the compromise Nintendo has opted to take in order to make a handheld ...

Mario 3D World, Captain Toad, Yoshi Wooly World all looked amazing though on Wii U, so even if we only get slightly better than those it won't be too bad.

I've accepted now that if I want better graphics and the game is multiplatform I will just buy on XB1 or PS4 Pro instead.

Nintendo have us by the balls because if we want to play Mario Odyssey, then we have no choice but to accept the trade offs graphically (even though it would be amazing to see it in 4k with HDR and temporal anti-aliasing) if we want to play it ...

It's essentially the same choice / trade we had to accept with Wii & Wii U also.
 
Temper your expectations power wise, expect just slightly better than Wii U.

Remember that's the compromise Nintendo has opted to take in order to make a handheld ...

Mario 3D World, Captain Toad, Yoshi Wooly World all looked amazing though on Wii U, so even if we only get slightly better than those it won't be too bad.

I've accepted now that if I want better graphics and the game is multiplatform I will just buy on XB1 or PS4 Pro instead.

Nintendo have us by the balls because if we want to play Mario Odyssey, then we have no choice but to accept the trade offs graphically (even though it would be amazing to see it in 4k with HDR and temporal anti-aliasing) if we want to play it ...

It's essentially the same choice / trade we had to accept with Wii & Wii U also.

I never invested in the Wii. Can you enlighten me where it stands today or did it flop?
 
I never invested in the Wii. Can you enlighten me where it stands today or did it flop?
The Wii sold extremely well, sadly however it was very much underpowered by comparison to PS3/360 and the initial momentum that drove sales from Wii Sports (a truly cross-over moment) never transpired into a strong software attachment, and because of its power inefficiency third party developers shoveled poor ports or dire casual game schlock onto the system ...

Nintendo's own games were mostly great though, however many including myself thought the motion controls that were often slapped onto any game for the sake of it, actually detracted from overall enjoyment of the device.

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Wii U suffered similar power inefficiency issue compared to rival systems especially with PS4 / XBX1 building momentum to their launches.

Once they launched, multiplatform 3rd party games began drying up as this developers skipped the console, once again leaving Nintendo to carry the console itself and we know how that turned out ....

There is the risk that Switch may suffer the same fate as the Wii & Wii U, and I imagine third party development from a multiplatform viewpoint will suffer same issues ...
 
I have a reservation at the small video store around the corner from me but didn't expect to get mine on launch day. Imagine my surprise when I got a call from THE GAME ZONE on my cell at work. Imagine my disappointment when it was to tell me that I was, in fact, not getting mine on launch day. Enjoy everyone, I have the last week in march off, hopefully I'll be joining you then.
 
Seems like day 1 patch does not fix joy-cons issues


I was somewhat dubious that it would. I thought it far more likely that it was less a signal insufficiency caused by power management and more likely caused by poor internal placement of the antenna because of all of the rubbish that had to be stuffed inside the Joy-Cons.
 
How many of you guys played and finished Zelda Spirit Tracks? I was just counting in my head which Zelda game I finished, and just thought if Spirit Track. This was one of the odd ones as it was played with the stylus. I bought a long stylus just to play this game. It took a while before I got into the game, and I was hooked and finished it in probably 2 weeks.

Wind Waker which I bought twice (GameCube and again on the Wii U) and twice I couldn't get into it :(

Wow look at that, the iPad auto corrected and properly capitalized GameCube and Wii U.
 
How many of you guys played and finished Zelda Spirit Tracks? I was just counting in my head which Zelda game I finished, and just thought if Spirit Track. This was one of the odd ones as it was played with the stylus. I bought a long stylus just to play this game. It took a while before I got into the game, and I was hooked and finished it in probably 2 weeks.

Wind Waker which I bought twice (GameCube and again on the Wii U) and twice I couldn't get into it :(

Wow look at that, the iPad auto corrected and properly capitalized GameCube and Wii U.

I've played and completed every Zelda game released, including the infernal CD-i trilogy.
 
3 weeks is a blink of an eye compared to the last time I turned on either of mine!

Therapy will do little for those who are hanging out here :p

I will hold out for Best Buy. Have some rewards and giftcards to burn. I have to believe they'll have extra units there calling out for me as I walk by tomorrow :)

I was going to call in the morning

Can't do midnight releases and the like in my old years :)
 
So you're disappointed in visual fidelity of Breath of the Wild?
I think it looks good, same as Mario, but when looking closely I can see imperfections. Maybe not a big deal but it gives me doubts as to the future of the console and it's games.

How good will they be in 5 years when we are also playing PS5 and Scorpio? And I know it's not meant to compete against them, but it will become obsolete and dated way faster because it has tablet graphics and those others will have 1080P and 4K graphics.

I thought Uncharted 1 looked AMAZING when I first got it. After playing Uncharted 4 and then Uncharted 3 I couldn't believe the difference.

Temper your expectations power wise, expect just slightly better than Wii U.

Remember that's the compromise Nintendo has opted to take in order to make a handheld ...

Mario 3D World, Captain Toad, Yoshi Wooly World all looked amazing though on Wii U, so even if we only get slightly better than those it won't be too bad.

I've accepted now that if I want better graphics and the game is multiplatform I will just buy on XB1 or PS4 Pro instead.

Nintendo have us by the balls because if we want to play Mario Odyssey, then we have no choice but to accept the trade offs graphically (even though it would be amazing to see it in 4k with HDR and temporal anti-aliasing) if we want to play it ...

It's essentially the same choice / trade we had to accept with Wii & Wii U also.

Yeah, I'm not sure what to do. Nintendo opts for tablet hardware (a 720P screen and only 32GB of onboard storage! Plus a normal size battery) which is VERY cheap for them to get and then they ask same price or more as a PS4 and Xbox One S. They are smart. They will have big profits with each console sold I'm sure, which will keep them in that business, and they force us to buy it to play those games we love.

I don't ask for PS4 performance, but c'mon, 720P games in dock mode in 2017? If Mario is indeed 720P that's a shame. I'm sure most games will opt for 720P too and we won't see too much 1080P games, and if that is the case I don't see much appeal to buy the Switch for games apart from the ones from Nintendo.
 
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I've played and completed every Zelda game released, including the infernal CD-i trilogy.
Likewise (though I only bought two for my CDi) and for shame actually got some twisted enjoyment out of the Philips CDi as for it's time the animations and sound whilst laudable now, was really ahead of the game back then ...

Played pretty much all of the Zelda's that were available to me and there are only 2 which I have never finished being Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. Both ran out of steam for me within half a dozen hours ... And I HATE with passion the grafted on wiggle controls for attack and such.

I re-bought TP on GameCube after hating the Wii controls however replaying the first 6 hours or so felt like a chore rather than enjoyment, and even with TP HD remaster I had same block. That game just leaves me cold and by God I've given it enough chances at this stage ........

I would like to see Skyward Sword without motion control and some of its early 'filler' content revised so it's more paced rather than plodding ....
 
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I don't ask for PS4 performance, but c'mon, 720P games in dock mode in 2017? If Mario is indeed 720P that's a shame. I'm sure most games will opt for 720P too and we won't see too much 1080P games, and if that is the case I don't see much appeal to buy the Switch for games apart from the ones from Nintendo.

That's essentially what I've resigned myself to with the switch ....
 
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Likewise (though I only bought two for my CDi) and for shame actually got some twisted enjoyment out of the Philips CDi as for it's time the animations and sound whilst laudable now, was really ahead of the game back then ...

Played pretty much all of the Zelda's that were available to me and there are only 2 which I have never finished being Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. Both ran out of steam for me within half a dozen hours ... And I HATE with passion the grafted on wiggle controls for attack and such.

I re-bought TP on GameCube after hating the Wii controls however replaying the first 6 hours or so felt like a chore rather than enjoyment, and even with TP HD remaster I had same block. That game just leaves me cold and by God I've given it enough chances at this stage ........

I would like to see Skyward Sword without motion control and some of its early 'filler' content revised so it's more paced rather than plodding ....

Skyward Sword was rubbish, with or without the motion controls. The quintessential bad prequel: sluggish pace; shoehorned retconning plot; flinching, half-baked mechanics (Stamina fruit? Really?); absurdly bad character design (Bohmenian girl power Zelda, hipster gender-confused jester demon, Tremors monster as designed by Jim Henson); and a world seemingly devoid of anything to see or do, above or below the cloud layer, that wasn't utterly perfunctory. It really was the first time I realised that the Nintendo of my childhood was dead.
 
Nintendo needs to stop making handheld flagship consoles.

Make a living room console that rivals or exceeds ps4 and xbox. Keep making Nintendo only games and opening up the esrb ratings. Let other developers make games for the console as well. Add a dedicated online experience for those people that love playing online.
 
Played pretty much all of the Zelda's that were available to me and there are only 2 which I have never finished being Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. Both ran out of steam for me within half a dozen hours ... And I HATE with passion the grafted on wiggle controls for attack and such.

I re-bought TP on GameCube after hating the Wii controls however replaying the first 6 hours or so felt like a chore rather than enjoyment, and even with TP HD remaster I had same block. That game just leaves me cold and by God I've given it enough chances at this stage ........
I couldn't get into twilight princess myself, but I got my son into it and he actually finished it, although he's a complete minimalist lol. It is the only amiibo I actually opened, out of my collection of 20 or so, to unlock that last "dungeon". That wolf amiibo unlocks wolf link in BOTW. Too bad he only completed like 15 of the caves, so not many hearts are saved on that amiibo.

So, who is lined up right now for the midnight launch? I'm out, enjoy your Switch :)
 
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Nintendo needs to stop making handheld flagship consoles.

Make a living room console that rivals or exceeds ps4 and xbox. Keep making Nintendo only games and opening up the esrb ratings. Let other developers make games for the console as well. Add a dedicated online experience for those people that love playing online.

No.

I for one am happy that Nintendo has the courage to take such bold risks with their hardware, cause lord knows Sony and Microsoft don't have the balls to do it; they're happy to subsidize higher specs and thats about it... and conforming to that narrow mindset is pretty darn boring and depressing.

Nintendo's risks might not pay off for them every time; no one has a 100% record in the industry. But I sure am glad that there's still one gaming company(oddly enough the oldest one in the biz now-a-days, from a pretty conservative country as well), which is willing to think out of the box and take such big bold risks.

IMHO

EDIT>> And i say that as someone who owns a PS3 and appreciates the amazing graphics.

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I couldn't get into twilight princess myself, but I got my son into it and he actually finished it, although he's a complete minimalist lol. It is the only amiibo I actually opened, out of my collection of 20 or so, to unlock that last "dungeon". That wolf amiibo unlocks wolf link in BOTW. Too bad he only completed like 15 of the caves, so not many hearts are saved on that amiibo.

So, who is lined up right now for the midnight launch? I'm out, enjoy your Switch :)

I played through TwilightPrincess twice on the Wii. This was during the drought in the Wii's latter years. Thoroughly enjoyed it both times.... was actually contemplating picking up the GCN version, which is horizontally flipped(I think).
 
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Personally I've decided to buy one in the coming weeks. is it the most powerful console? No, but it is the far the most powerful handheld with the option to play at home and chill that's awesome.

As far as I'm concerned Bomberman, Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda, hopefully Pikmin, new Banjoo Kazooie ..Are more than enough known quality games for me to be satisfied for at least the end of 2017.

It's nice knowing that I can just put out my Switch and play Mario Kart and Zelda on the train how awesome is that? I'm not interested in the online stuff just playing and having fun will be awesome without worrying about DRM online connection requires or rmt crap..A lot of third parties are known for.

My only real fear is storage so a 128gb and a Powerbank are must haves I guess.
 
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I will be getting mine in a week or two. Haven't been this excited for a Nintendo console in years. Hopefully my MBP 13 charger can charge this at a decent rate since that's the only charger I carry when I travel nowadays :cool:
 
So Mario will be 720P?

I guess we won't see much games at 1080P then?
BotW is a direct Wii U port, so it may explain why it runs at 900p docked, compared to the WiiUs 720p. On the other hand, Splatoon 2 and MK8 both run at 1080p as far as reports have come in so far, so I expect Super Mario to also run at 1080p.

I never invested in the Wii. Can you enlighten me where it stands today or did it flop?
The Wii was a huge hit, selling a tad over 100 million units, putting it in the all time top 5 console sales list. Only the PS and PS2 sold more, if we exclude portables.

And since Nintendo earned money on every Wii they sold (Forbes estimated this to be around 6$ per unit for the early sales, which would undoubtedly be higher later on in its lifetime), they made a huge pile of money, and that's not even counting software sales or add-on licenses (For which a butt load was also produced).

I played through TwilightPrincess twice on the Wii. This was during the drought in the Wii's latter years. Thoroughly enjoyed it both times.... was actually contemplating picking up the GCN version, which is horizontally flipped(I think).
It is. Link was traditionally left handed, but since most people are right handed, they flipped everything for the Wii release, so Wii-mote waggling wouldn't be too ackward.

Skyward Sword was rubbish, with or without the motion controls. The quintessential bad prequel: sluggish pace; shoehorned retconning plot; flinching, half-baked mechanics (Stamina fruit? Really?); absurdly bad character design (Bohmenian girl power Zelda, hipster gender-confused jester demon, Tremors monster as designed by Jim Henson); and a world seemingly devoid of anything to see or do, above or below the cloud layer, that wasn't utterly perfunctory. It really was the first time I realised that the Nintendo of my childhood was dead.
I really liked SS. It wasn't the best Zelda, but it has some lovely elements and puzzles. And I for one really liked the bad guy, and the portrayal of Zelda.
 
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I initially purchased the Switch for my younger brother who is a massive fan, but I have to admit that the reception Zelda has been getting has me interested.
 
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I've accepted now that if I want better graphics and the game is multiplatform I will just buy on XB1 or PS4 Pro instead.

I don't know what to do with multiplatform. The PS4 version will probably be superior, but the switch is portable. I'm leaning towards the switch because of this, but it's definitely not going to replace my PS4.
 
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MRU's stash !!!

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BotW is a direct Wii U port, so it may explain why it runs at 900p docked, compared to the WiiUs 720p. On the other hand, Splatoon 2 and MK8 both run at 1080p as far as reports have come in so far, so I expect Super Mario to also run at 1080p.
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Splatoon 2 runs at 720p docked, not 1080p currently.

Mario Odyssey is also based on all footage shown so far and using pixel counting running at 720p. Digital Foundry already did the analysis.

Both run without any anti-aliasing to mask jaggies / shimmer.

Only MK8 has hit 1080p.



 
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