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The No Touch Bar 13 Macbook Version

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justabirdy

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Those that have had theirs a while: What's been your experience with throttling?


Debating between a 2.4/16GB/512GB or a entry level 15". Can't justify the price for the touch-bar 13".
 
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Abaganov

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would going for the CPU upgrade would mean some hit to battery life?
anyone here with the i7 upgrade can report about this?
 
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budfoot

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justabirdy said:
If anything it would improve battery life. More performance at the same power draw as the 2GHz part and a slightly faster GPU.
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I maxed out the non-tb (cpu/memory) and only 512 on the hard drive space. I regularly get 12-13 hours of battery life with normal usage.

Pretty much everything I do is in AWS or "the cloud"... so a lot of browsing with safari and a lot of iterm windows all over the place.


Although last night I did fire up a vmware image of kali and my battery estimate definitely changed.
 
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Wowereit

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justabirdy said:
Those that have had theirs a while: What's been your experience with throttling?


Debating between a 2.4/16GB/512GB or a entry level 15". Can't justify the price for the touch-bar 13".
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As long as you aren't stressing the GPU at the same time, there is literally zero throttling.
 
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Abaganov

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budfoot said:
I maxed out the non-tb (cpu/memory) and only 512 on the hard drive space. I regularly get 12-13 hours of battery life with normal usage.

Pretty much everything I do is in AWS or "the cloud"... so a lot of browsing with safari and a lot of iterm windows all over the place.


Although last night I did fire up a vmware image of kali and my battery estimate definitely changed.
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Thats incredible numbers! thanks for that
 
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Trixs

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David58117 said:
I have the Non-touchbar base.

I don't use Ableton, but I put Logic Pro X and about 150GB of NI VSTs on it.

Most of my stuff is lighter orchestration, and it seems fine for it. In Logic Pro X, there's a Helena Beat project with 80 tracks I believe, and it performed fine. The CPU percent idle got maybe high 60s at the most, while mostly being in 70s idle. Memory pressure was green and about 1/3rd full.
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I was considering trading my non-TB in for a TB, depending on the reviews, but I don't think I'll do that now.

Battery life has been just phenomenal. Using it conservatively (brightness on 1 bar, keyboard backlight off) and just browsing, I was able to go through 2 work days on it, with about 5-6 hours of use on it per day. By the end of the second day, I had high 30% battery life.

It's pretty snappy, I don't think performance between the two would be that drastic or noticeable in everyday use.
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How do you work with 1 bar of brightness?
 
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BBD90

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Just put my order in for one.

Base CPU
512 SSD
16 GB Ram
AppleCare
Space Grey

Says delivers 25-29 what are the chances of it getting here sooner :) .
 
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BBD90 said:
Just put my order in for one.

Base CPU
512 SSD
16 GB Ram
AppleCare
Space Grey

Says delivers 25-29 what are the chances of it getting here sooner :) .
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May take a look at bhphoto.com if you want it sooner... they have a decent selection in stock.
 
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HoosBruce

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Abaganov said:
Very nice video man, you have great voice for this kind of stuff, keep it going! liked and subscribed
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Thanks! Hopefully I'll be able to keep it up and eventually upgrade from shooting with an iPhone and a $15 mic haha.

Thanks for subscribing I've got another video coming tomorrow
 
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Pyali

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Was messing around in final cut pro x and compressor on my base 13" non-TB for an hour or two yesterday and didnt throttle. It did get pretty toasty though
 
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math kitchen

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Is here any one has experience or idea of how using 5k 60hz displaying would be on this non-TB 13 inch pro?
I just purchased yesterday and will buy LG 5k display when it is available in December.

Spec info in Apple website says this will support and definitely tb3 has huge bandwidth but
do you think it will run seamlessly for everyday light uses like web browsing, light programming and photo editing,
watching video clip and so on?

Also, do you think the laptop will be very hot when it is connected to 5k external display?
 
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Hung_Solo

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Have had mine for over two weeks now and my battery life takes a hit when watching videos that require flash but that is obviously expected. I'm not a heavy user but I do have multiple tabs in safari open, iTunes open, Google Chrome open to do work-related tasks that only works in Chrome, etc and it has ran like a champ since I've had it. When doing more minimal tasks like surfing the web I get a very solid 9-10 hours of battery life. I also have the LG 27UD88 4k monitor and have had no problems using it in clamshell mode with a Logitech wireless keyboard and Logitech MX Master mouse setup.

Very happy with my purchase.
 
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justabirdy

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Hung_Solo said:
Have had mine for over two weeks now and my battery life takes a hit when watching videos that require flash but that is obviously expected. I'm not a heavy user but I do have multiple tabs in safari open, iTunes open, Google Chrome open to do work-related tasks that only works in Chrome, etc and it has ran like a champ since I've had it. When doing more minimal tasks like surfing the web I get a very solid 9-10 hours of battery life. I also have the LG 27UD88 4k monitor and have had no problems using it in clamshell mode with a Logitech wireless keyboard and Logitech MX Master mouse setup.

Very happy with my purchase.
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How is scrolling lag in Chrome and UI stutter/lag in general? Seriously considering the same setup as you (2.4GHz/16GB/256GB). Was debating the Touch-Bar 13, but the CPU/GPU combo don't seem like a big upgrade over the non-touchbar model.
 
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Hung_Solo

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justabirdy said:
How is scrolling lag in Chrome and UI stutter/lag in general? Seriously considering the same setup as you (2.4GHz/16GB/256GB)
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I have not noticed any scrolling lag or UI lag when using Chrome. My MBP does get warmer when using Chrome but I know that it uses more power/resources then Safari.
 
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colorfuel

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WickedPorter said:
My numbers are from 4.0.1 (64 bit), the rest of the numbers are coming from what appears to be a variant of 4.0.x 64 bit.
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Hi again,

So I've been running Geekbench 4.0.1 on my i7 2.2Ghz 2015 MBA. As expected, single-core scores about match those of the i5 2016 nonTB model, Multi-Core scores are a bit lower (more or less 3%) Maybe due to better HT-handling on Skylake.

My scores are 3770/7007.

It means Skylake has about 10% more power since the i5 runs ar 2.0Ghz vs. 2.2Ghz i7 (both beeing 15W Cpus).

Of course the GPU in this Broadwell chip is alot worse than the 540 on the Skylake chip.
 
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