This model is a pleasant surprise because (and this was not a given at all) you can get both
- the new sexy slim and light design
- the new amazing screen
- tb3 ports and 5K 60Hz external monitor
AND
- the ESC key and the F-keys
I repeat, this was not a given. Hope a similar non-touchbar model is available in the next generations as well and the touchbar never trickles down to the cheapest MBP.
This is a godsend for geeks who wanna have an "ultimate" laptop with all the keys even in linux and windows.
A maxed out one (except ssd, 512GB is enough) would be my current dream laptop for daily light workload.
Within the 2017 I hope this could be fixed by a rx480 or a 1060 as eGPUNo dedicated graphics, the only downside to that machine.
yes.Does a 16 GB RAM upgrade make sense in this model with the base CPU?
Grabbed the nTB 13" for $1250 at BB, to replace my 2013 MBA, mainly to get a better screen (the low contrast web site designs these days and tired eyes don't mix). What is funny is its darn near the same size as my wife's 11" MBA. So I look at it as the next generation MBA (with retina), and call it a nice upgrade.
I'm almost at the 5 month mark with the nTB MBP and I'm enjoying it just as much as when I got it. It still sits at my desk most of the time but the past few weeks I've had to travel a bit and have taken it for work and it's been awesome. Great battery life, fantastic screen, fast SSD, and function keys! After using it for these months I'm pleased that it has successfully replaced my 12" MB and 15" 2012 MBP and it's very refreshing to use only one Mac notebook instead of two.
$1299.99 at Best Buy is that good deal?
Depends. I swear by Apple refurbs and you can get one now for $1,269 (assuming you're talking USD). I'm in Canada and just picked one up refurb. Even though it sucks our dollar is a bit lower these days, Apple is giving us a pretty fair shake in the exchange rate. I paid $1,609 CAD for a refurb of the Oct 2016 Function Key version, which works out to about $1,200 USD at current exchange.
Curious - what do you need / use touchid for that makes it so useful? As an owner of an Apple Watch, my laptop is already unlocked with me being near it when i open the lid, so that doesn't count (for me).
$1299.99 at Best Buy is that good deal?
I believe the 1299 is for a brand new one at Best Buy; I am actually wondering spending the extra 200 for a TB one is worth it over the Best buy nTB.Get a refurb from Apple instead. For $1269, you get a refurbished computer that's been inspected tooth and nail by an Apple Tech, not some geek squad guy at BB. And if Apple finds problems, they fix them 150% before they sell the thing, so you're assured of getting a better than brand new computer with a full one-year warranty. And it's boxed back up to look factory new!! Can't beat that with a stick! I actually trust Apple reburbs more than I trust brand new. I've bought many over the years, and they've always been first class! Do it!
Not everyone has an Apple Watch you know...
I totally agree with this - the battery is simply outstanding.