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Have you gotten used to the notch?

  • Yes, I don't notice it anymore.

    Votes: 119 53.4%
  • It bothers me sometimes.

    Votes: 26 11.7%
  • I hate it all the time.

    Votes: 34 15.2%
  • It will go down as one of Apple's worst design compromises ever.

    Votes: 25 11.2%
  • What's a notch?

    Votes: 6 2.7%
  • I am glad I have more screen area because of it

    Votes: 46 20.6%

  • Total voters
    223

BigBen2493

macrumors regular
May 10, 2016
225
52
They could have left a little bit of bezel on the top and bottom (symmetrical) having enough room for Face ID and even a smaller version of Touch ID, it would have flown off shelves in either LCD or OLED form. It was just a dumb design choice by Apple and the longer they take to admit it to themselves its just going to hurt them long term. I don't think I could go to Android at this point mostly due to privacy concerns, but the Galaxy S9 is exactly what I would have wanted to see from Apple.
Love the S9 design but its Android :(
 
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PeytonT123

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Oct 17, 2018
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I like it much more than the old design. And I actually think it looks cool, in a weird way it kinda emphasizes how big the screen is, since it stretches all the way past the earpiece.
 

BigBen2493

macrumors regular
May 10, 2016
225
52
I like it much more than the old design. And I actually think it looks cool, in a weird way it kinda emphasizes how big the screen is, since it stretches all the way past the earpiece.
That's why im thinking about the 8, no notch
 

SquireSCA

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Dec 5, 2008
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Atlanta, GA
Which phone do you have?

XR 128gb. Came from a Galaxy S9+, but have had many iPhones and Androids over the years... Moto, Pixels, Nexus, Samsung, OnePlus, Essential...

Today, Android has a lot more polish, it's far more flexible and intuitive to use than iOS, its more customizable... Want to change the icons or font? Don't like the way things look? Install a free launcher from the app store and completely change how the phone looks, works and feels... The phone adapts to you, rather than you being forced to adapt to it. That's the primary difference, in a nutshell...

I am back on the XR because I wanted an Apple Watch. While Android clearly has the better phones, they still haven't gotten the watch right, so for me wanting the watch, the iPhone is "good enough" to justify the switch, even with the small handful of annoyances and limitations...
 

OriginalAppleGuy

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Sep 25, 2016
968
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iOS hasn’t changed much over the years, android is light years ahead of where it was and is well past iOS in most regards.

Not with security. I'll agree there have been improvements. But iOS is still the most secure of the two. You can argue the importance of that, but it's extremely important to me. Also, hardware battery life can be an issue with Android devices. Not by my opinion but a guy I worked with who kept going back and forth as he was our guy responsible for testing new technology. It wasn't until maybe the S9 that battery life stopped being an issue and he kept it longer than any other Droid device before switching back with the X.
 

SquireSCA

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Not with security. I'll agree there have been improvements. But iOS is still the most secure of the two. You can argue the importance of that, but it's extremely important to me. Also, hardware battery life can be an issue with Android devices. Not by my opinion but a guy I worked with who kept going back and forth as he was our guy responsible for testing new technology. It wasn't until maybe the S9 that battery life stopped being an issue and he kept it longer than any other Droid device before switching back with the X.

The larger platform, will always be the primary target for hackers. If you want to deliver your digital payload where it will do the most damage, will you go after the platform that has 86% of the market, or the one with 14% of the market?

This argument has been around for decades... Claiming that Macs don't get hacked like PC's did. Yeah, well, when everyone has a PC, that's where you are gonna focus your efforts on... Macs didn't get as much virii for the same reasons that ugly people got a lot less STD's, because nobody wants to bang them... haha

Apple does have great battery life. No argument. Some Androids do, some don't.

Apple has great cameras... Not the best, but better than most of us will ever need.

But the OS is still clunky and there are a lot of things that have been "industry standard" that Apple still hasn't caught up to yet... And it's not because Apple can't... They have the engineering might to do whatever they want, but they time and time again focus on form over function. Why give you what you want, when they can wait two years till people are clamoring for what their Android friends have, and then give it to you via forcing you to upgrade to a new device?

People think I am hating on Apple. I am not though. Right now my tablet, phone and watch, are all Apple, as is the case with my wife... I prefer Android for several valid reasons, but I go back and forth on the platforms over the years... But I can objectively list what I like and dislike about each platform. I can be plenty negative on Android, and have...

But it seems that the "my team" mentality is firmly in place here, and anything negative towards Apple is attacked or dismissed. Why? If we don't voice our concerns or issues, who will? How will things get better?
 

tromboneaholic

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Jun 9, 2004
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The larger platform, will always be the primary target for hackers. If you want to deliver your digital payload where it will do the most damage, will you go after the platform that has 86% of the market, or the one with 14% of the market?

Were the rules different when iOS had a larger market share than android?
 

SquireSCA

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Were the rules different when iOS had a larger market share than android?

I don't know, that was well over half a decade ago and I don't know that smartphones were in the crosshairs as much as they are today. Apple hasn't been the majority of the market in a looooong time.

Maybe I am the weird one, but I have never gotten hit with a virus... In all my years online, going back to 1200 baud modems dialing into local BBS's in the late 1980's, to now... after having downloaded countless TB of files and data on Windows machines... I have never really been significantly impacted by a virus... Once in a blue moon a website trips my anti-virus and it removes it for me, and that's about it...
 

jmmo20

macrumors 65816
Jun 15, 2006
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My main issue with the notch is not so much its presence, but rather the UI compromises taken because of the notch.

Things like the carrier name I can live without - but I cannot get over the fact I never know whether silent mode or Bluetooth headphones are on or not..!!! in my opinion the icons should be condensed a little more to allow for more icons
 

SquireSCA

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My main issue with the notch is not so much its presence, but rather the UI compromises taken because of the notch.

Things like the carrier name I can live without - but I cannot get over the fact I never know whether silent mode or Bluetooth headphones are on or not..!!! in my opinion the icons should be condensed a little more to allow for more icons

That's a good point. People keep saying that the notch increased the screen space. Nope, it carved out a section of the notification bar, so I can no longer tell the other details like you pointed out... or display the battery percentage, to let me know exactly how much battery life I have left... Things like that...
 

jmmo20

macrumors 65816
Jun 15, 2006
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That's a good point. People keep saying that the notch increased the screen space. Nope, it carved out a section of the notification bar, so I can no longer tell the other details like you pointed out... or display the battery percentage, to let me know exactly how much battery life I have left... Things like that...

yes but you see.. I don't think battery % is all that important or vital to know every single moment, but whether your phone is in DND mode or not? I was expecting a call yesterday and I kept missing hte call, only to notice DND was on!
 

timeconsumer

macrumors 68020
Aug 1, 2008
2,135
2,173
Portland
XR 128gb. Came from a Galaxy S9+, but have had many iPhones and Androids over the years... Moto, Pixels, Nexus, Samsung, OnePlus, Essential...

Today, Android has a lot more polish, it's far more flexible and intuitive to use than iOS, its more customizable... Want to change the icons or font? Don't like the way things look? Install a free launcher from the app store and completely change how the phone looks, works and feels... The phone adapts to you, rather than you being forced to adapt to it. That's the primary difference, in a nutshell...

I am back on the XR because I wanted an Apple Watch. While Android clearly has the better phones, they still haven't gotten the watch right, so for me wanting the watch, the iPhone is "good enough" to justify the switch, even with the small handful of annoyances and limitations...
It’s the Apple Watch and iMessage which keeps me using iOS. Other factors as well but mostly the two I’ve mentioned.

To be more on topic: I’ve been using a XR for approximately two weeks now. I moved from an iPhone 7 Plus to this. The notch is there but I don’t really notice it. I would prefer it didn’t have it, but it’s fine. I don’t watch a lot of video on my phone and use it primarily in portrait mode, so for me it is fine.
 

SquireSCA

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It’s the Apple Watch and iMessage which keeps me using iOS. Other factors as well but mostly the two I’ve mentioned.

To be more on topic: I’ve been using a XR for approximately two weeks now. I moved from an iPhone 7 Plus to this. The notch is there but I don’t really notice it. I would prefer it didn’t have it, but it’s fine. I don’t watch a lot of video on my phone and use it primarily in portrait mode, so for me it is fine.

Yeah, I have no use for iMessage, I turned it off and just use standard SMS and MMS.

The watch is great, and despite a few annoyances, I am enjoying the XR. Great phone for the money.
 
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