The old Intel model is almost 300% of Max for gaming FPS

[babyexercise]

The video shows the practical gaming fps

I don’t know how can you accept that but I cannot. There is no way to call it Max when the old version gaming fps is 300% of it. I doubt M2 Max or even M3 Max can catch it up after like 3, 4years. You deserve much better this if you bought the Max.

 

[haruhiko]

Yeah, just hold on to your Intel forever. The Max is a piece of ****.
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[metapunk2077fail]

The M1 Max is roughly equivalent to the desktop 6700 XT in most tests.

 

[tormac21]

The video shows the practical gaming fps

I don’t know how can you accept that but I cannot. There is no way to call it Max when the old version gaming fps is 300% of it. I doubt M2 Max or even M3 Max can catch it up after like 3, 4years. You deserve much better than much slower than old model if you bought the Max.

Sure, if you're buying the MacBook to be a gaming laptop, this is not acceptable and there are many MUCH better and MUCH cheaper gaming laptops that will suit you.

Not sure why this is a thing - Macs have never been about gaming. If you buy a Mac for gaming and are then disappointed.. well, that's kinda on you.

 

[Lobwedgephil]

These aren't gaming machines.

 

[babyexercise]

Sure, if you're buying the MacBook to be a gaming laptop, this is not acceptable and there are many MUCH better and MUCH cheaper gaming laptops that will suit you.

Not sure why this is a thing - Macs have never been about gaming. If you buy a Mac for gaming and are then disappointed.. well, that's kinda on you.

The point is last model is much better

 

[pshufd]

It's more a problem of software than hardware. Apple doesn't care about gaming with this model. They may care about it more in a future release. Just remember that these are Apple's first systems using their own silicon and they appear geared to software development and creatives production. Give them some time to get gaming companies onboard. Apple Silicon holds a lot of promise in that they can add custom hardware for any industry that they choose to.

I'd love to see them add hardware support for Genomic analysis - it could be a great boon to the biotech industry.

 

[ASX]

Apple compared this M1 Max with RTX 3080 mobile within their keynote. So this comparison is more than legit. I didn't know that this M1 Max is slower than a crappy AMD 5600M gpu of macbook pro 2019 .

I noticed that M1 Pro is slow. I connected mine today to a 34GP950G ultra wide screen and opened a lot of tabs in Chrome and Safari. Damn it's slowing down very hard when a lot tabs are open. My 5900X desktop and 11800h laptop are worlds faster.

 

[pshufd]

The point is last model is much better

I own an i7-10700 Windows Desktop with 128 GB of RAM and 5 TB SSD. I use it for production work because I use a program that runs poorly on macOS and doesn't run at all on my new 2021 MacBook Pro (I'm working with tech support). Use the hardware and software platform that your application runs well on. Windows laptops are really crappy as database cloud servers. Why would anyone buy such a device for that purpose?

 

[fa8362]

You can also fry eggs and bacon on the Intel. Or use it as a space heater in winter, or for a sauna in summer

 

[metapunk2077fail]

Apple compared this M1 Max with RTX 3080 mobile within their keynote. So this comparison is more than legit. I didn't know that this M1 Max is slower than a crappy AMD 5600M gpu of macbook pro 2019 .

There is nothing to back up your statement. It's utterly false. Every reviewer and every test has placed the M1 Max GPU in the ballpark of desktop GPUs like the 6700 XT or RTX 2060. It does indeed beat the mobile 3070/3080 in some apps.

 

[kwokaaron]

The video shows the practical gaming fps

I don’t know how can you accept that but I cannot. There is no way to call it Max when the old version gaming fps is 300% of it. I doubt M2 Max or even M3 Max can catch it up after like 3, 4years. You deserve much better this if you bought the Max.

Not sure if you're just trolling but I'm just going to attach this here

 

[ASX]

A 10 tflops gpu without game relevant ai features beat a 3070 and 3080 with 15-16 tflops . The only game i saw where m1 max is performing well is Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Maybe this is the game you mean.

Regardless, this M1 Pro/Max Chip is fine for apple applications. If you have this kind of apps, you have no choice, if you wont build a Hackintosh .

 

[pshufd]

You can also fry eggs and bacon on the Intel. Or use it as a space heater in winter, or for a sauna in summer

I'm inclined to use my 2015 MacBook Pro in the winter as it keeps my legs warm in my recliner.

 

[James Godfrey]

I’m still searching anything where apple says the MacBook Pro is built for gaming…. I never understand why everyone seems to be jumping on the M Pro/Max chips are sh** for gaming bandwagon when apple have never intended these machines for gaming…. Confused ?

 

[CalMin]

I don’t know how can you accept that but I cannot. There is no way to call it Max when the old version gaming fps is 300% of it. I doubt M2 Max or even M3 Max can catch it up after like 3, 4years. You deserve much better this if you bought the Max.

I haven’t watched the videos, but what I can say is that it you’re buying an M1 Pro or M1 Max for gaming, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.

Get a Dell and be happy.

 

[ASX]

Sadly it's not only gaming. It's also slow within standard apps if multiple are used. Apple compared it with Razor Blade 15 RTX 3080.

 

[tormac21]

Not sure if you're just trolling but I'm just going to attach this here

Haha so the video is just wrong then? That's hilarious.

 

[Dr.Ravencroft]

The point is last model is much better

That's actually the wrong point. Last model might be better as vast majority of games are optimised for Intel + AMD/Nvidia. Also, I don't get this obsession with playing on a Mac. No Mac is built with gaming in mind. If you're buying a Mac for gaming, you're wasting your money and time. Buy a PS5/Xbox and play to your heart's content.

 

[MauiPa]

The point is last model is much better

hahaha. what a joke, keep em coming. I'm not a gamer, and know of absolutely no one who buys Macs to game, but my basic question is was the game tested optimized for apple silicon? No, I thought not, so it is running on emulation, keyword - running. but no one would expect the results to be stellar. Think

 

[Vyse2020]

Are there many graphically intensive games that have actually been written for M1/Apple Silicon, aren’t most just running in Rosetta 2, I would imagine if that was the case they would indeed be running slower? I don’t have the time to watch a 25 minute video to see which games they used but I can’t imagine there are that many Apple Silicon optimized games out to make a definitive statement

 

[MauiPa]

I haven’t watched the videos, but what I can say is that it you’re buying an M1 Pro or M1 Max for gaming, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.

Get a Dell and be happy.

I know, more expensive, heavier, lower performance - but gaming. Oh and the games are optimized for running on Intel and windows. who knew that would even matter?

 

[MauiPa]

Sadly it's not only gaming. It's also slow within standard apps if multiple are used. Apple compared it with Razor Blade 15 RTX 3080.

hahaha, now that is funny

 

[metapunk2077fail]

Not sure if you're just trolling but I'm just going to attach this here

Yes indeed. I noticed he mislabelled his charts the day he published the video. Now we have a few people who can't see the mistake and lose their heads about it. It's such an obvious mistake.

 

[HardBall]

The video shows the practical gaming fps

I don’t know how can you accept that but I cannot. There is no way to call it Max when the old version gaming fps is 300% of it. I doubt M2 Max or even M3 Max can catch it up after like 3, 4years. You deserve much better this if you bought the Max.

These Maxtech guys are not legit laptop reviewers, they are more or less benchmark-heads that dont really understand the benches they are running or the nuiance that go into analyzing them. Their "review" generally consists of rifling through dozens of benchmarks with almost zero analysis that good outlets like anandtech or arstechnica go through. And they take into no consideration real world usage scenarios, and gives no thought on usage away from an office desk.