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unwrapped mac cider skyrim

I have played a bit of the game in OSX on my imac with a Radeon 4850 512mb. I can't help but think the game would play better under windows 7. I have windows 7 installed through boot camp, but I couldn't find a working version of Skyrim on any of the torrent sites. I know the version I am playing on mac is essentially a full version of the game with a wrapper, so I am curious to know if I remove the wrapper would the game play normally in windows 7. Before I go and waste a double layer dvd I thought I should ask and see if anyone knows if it will work or not.

Thanks in Advance...
 
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Huntn said:
Don't think MR supports piracy talk, if that's what it is...

He just mentioned torrents but what's he is asking is the copy he already has and is using in OSX is wrapped in cider, if he were to remove the wrap would it work properly in Windows 7.

I have no experience with cider wrapping but I don't see why not if it was a legit windows version before and you didn't mess with anything other than just adding cider.
 
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He just mentioned torrents but what's he is asking is the copy he already has and is using in OSX is wrapped in cider, if he were to remove the wrap would it work properly in Windows 7.

And you think his cider copy is legit :rolleyes:
 
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HabSonic said:
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He just mentioned torrents but what's he is asking is the copy he already has and is using in OSX is wrapped in cider, if he were to remove the wrap would it work properly in Windows 7.

And you think his cider copy is legit :rolleyes:

Lol who am I to question that. ;)

He wasn't asking for help downloading or using torrents or anything so he's in the clear! Lol
 
Still playing the game on the imac. Odd thing seems to have happened. I have an arrow stuck in my face. When I take the armor off it is still there. It has been there for about an hour of play time. It doesn't really effect anything and I can only see it in third person mode, but still quite queer.
 
Still playing the game on the imac. Odd thing seems to have happened. I have an arrow stuck in my face. When I take the armor off it is still there. It has been there for about an hour of play time. It doesn't really effect anything and I can only see it in third person mode, but still quite queer.

1. Press ~ to get to console.

2. Type: sexchange — This will change your character's gender, kind of an amusing effect.

3. Type it again to go back to normal. Or don't type it again, if that's your preference. The first one clears the arrow out.
 
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He just mentioned torrents but what's he is asking is the copy he already has and is using in OSX is wrapped in cider, if he were to remove the wrap would it work properly in Windows 7.

I have no experience with cider wrapping but I don't see why not if it was a legit windows version before and you didn't mess with anything other than just adding cider.

Not to cast aspersions, it's just when I hear "torrent" I think "pirate", but I realize this is not always the case. There are legit torrents out there. :)
 
I have played a bit of the game in OSX on my imac with a Radeon 4850 512mb. I can't help but think the game would play better under windows 7. I have windows 7 installed through boot camp, but I couldn't find a working version of Skyrim on any of the torrent sites. I know the version I am playing on mac is essentially a full version of the game with a wrapper, so I am curious to know if I remove the wrapper would the game play normally in windows 7. Before I go and waste a double layer dvd I thought I should ask and see if anyone knows if it will work or not.

Thanks in Advance...

Suprisingly, works in windows. The game plays much better as well. In OSX I have it set at 1280x800 Ultra and the game is a bit choppy. In Windows 7 1920x1200 Ultra the game runs steady at just under 60fps according to fraps (like 52-57 to be exact).
 
Being arrested for walking through an open door is strange and must be a glitch. I've not had that happen to me, although I have been arrested for picking a lock to enter a residence. Usually my intent is to roust someone out of bed to talk to them about a quest. ;) My impression is that in Skyrim a guard must see you, but I'm not sure about that. In Oblivion, I used a "no psychic guards" mod because it seemed no matter what if you lock picked a residence, a guard appeared out of no where to arrest you.

If you are sneaking and the crosshair turns from an eye to a horizontal line, you can pick the lock without getting in trouble with the guards outside. The only problem lies that some people in the house you just entered may not speak with you to advance your mission, rather they get angry and yell, "you need to leave...NOW."

I had an funny thing happen when I broke into a house in Dawnstar. There were guards outside, but I decided to pick my way in anyway. When I got inside, a guard was jammed right between me and the closed door, with the whole "you have committed crimes...blah blah blah". With no witnesses, I just took him out right there, cleaned out the house and left nervously whistling while I walked out. :D
 
I like having company that acts as my tank, which Lydia does. I'm sure you know the mechanics, but I save before every big fight, and the only time Lydia has died was when I accidentally hit her with a spell. The spell does not kill her outright, but the mob beating on her does kill her. No fight I've faced so far was so difficult that I could not stand a re-do. Recently I reset her specs and she holds up better in fights.. It is silly, but I like having a companion and I am attached to her.

Maybe you're right! I actually am starting to feel guilty having her hang around home doing nothing instead of out adventuring. :p Ok, that's it. When I play tonight, Lydia & I are going out on a battle-date!

p.s. How do you reset her specs?


Being arrested for walking through an open door is strange and must be a glitch. I've not had that happen to me, although I have been arrested for picking a lock to enter a residence. Usually my intent is to roust someone out of bed to talk to them about a quest. ;) My impression is that in Skyrim a guard must see you, but I'm not sure about that. In Oblivion, I used a "no psychic guards" mod because it seemed no matter what if you lock picked a residence, a guard appeared out of no where to arrest you.

I thought so too - I didn't think you could just wander into a 'private area', but in Understone Keep, that's what happened to me. Since then, I've become Thain (or whatever the title is) and can go anywhere unhindered. Still weird..

AFAIK, regarding the guards seeing you, if you're sneaking and "Hidden", you're ok.

Why on Earth would they arrest you for entering the Shrine of Talos? I wonder are you aligned with the Stormcloaks?

Don't want to post spoilers, but there's a certain quest that triggers this. However, even once you complete the quest, every single time you return to the Shrine, the same event plays out again.

When someone hands you a quest and says it's marked on the map, the best thing would be to untrack all quests except the one you just got and see if one of those marker arrows appears on the map?

Often, there is no quest. For instance, if you talk to a mercenary, and they "give" you one of their jobs; they simply mention there's something to be done nearby, but there's no quest/objective, and the name of the location doesn't appear on-screen.

On another note - I wonder what would happen if you tried to 'mess up' the quests by killing a main character, such as Ulfric Stormcloak, early in the game. Is he invincible? Or very hard to kill? Or do lots of quests become unavailable?

One more annoyance too - there's one quest where you're trying to get someone out of a prison. I was able to sneak into the fort in question, but even though I wasn't seen, the quest immediately failed once I entered. Eh? How? Seems a bit random.
 
On another note - I wonder what would happen if you tried to 'mess up' the quests by killing a main character, such as Ulfric Stormcloak, early in the game. Is he invincible? Or very hard to kill? Or do lots of quests become unavailable?

Essential characters are invincible. You can get their health down to a sliver, but it will remain there.
 
With no witnesses, I just took him out right there, cleaned out the house and left nervously whistling while I walked out. :D

Did that generate a bounty on your character?

Maybe you're right! I actually am starting to feel guilty having her hang around home doing nothing instead of out adventuring. :p Ok, that's it. When I play tonight, Lydia & I are going out on a battle-date!

p.s. How do you reset her specs?

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I thought so too - I didn't think you could just wander into a 'private area', but in Understone Keep, that's what happened to me. Since then, I've become Thain (or whatever the title is) and can go anywhere unhindered. Still weird..

AFAIK, regarding the guards seeing you, if you're sneaking and "Hidden", you're ok.



Don't want to post spoilers, but there's a certain quest that triggers this. However, even once you complete the quest, every single time you return to the Shrine, the same event plays out again.

Whoever asked, take note! :)



Often, there is no quest. For instance, if you talk to a mercenary, and they "give" you one of their jobs; they simply mention there's something to be done nearby, but there's no quest/objective, and the name of the location doesn't appear on-screen.

While I would not bet my life on it, my impression is that all awarded jobs appear under the "misc" portion of the journal/quest page.

On another note - I wonder what would happen if you tried to 'mess up' the quests by killing a main character, such as Ulfric Stormcloak, early in the game. Is he invincible? Or very hard to kill? Or do lots of quests become unavailable?

That might be fun to test! :)

One more annoyance too - there's one quest where you're trying to get someone out of a prison. I was able to sneak into the fort in question, but even though I wasn't seen, the quest immediately failed once I entered. Eh? How? Seems a bit random.

If it involved a Stormcloak, I don't get that. I did not sneak in, but fought my way in and no problems with automatic failure. Even if I got killed, (which I did twice), I just reloaded the last save.
 

Thanks! But I'm playing on a console (I know.. I know..) so that's not an option. I'm planning on building a "PC console" for attaching to my TV, but for now I guess I'm stuck with wimpy friends.

While I would not bet my life on it, my impression is that all awarded jobs appear under the "misc" portion of the journal/quest page.

Most, but not all. For instance, I don't think the jobs the mercenaries give you appear in the quest log. Though I wouldn't bet my life on it either..

That might be fun to test! :)

Exactly! Unfortunately, someone said it's explicitly prevented in the game, essential characters are invincible. It's understandable - as a developer I can imagine just how difficult it would be to handle every such situation; and the number of permutations you'd have to handle in the quests and dialogue.

If it involved a Stormcloak, I don't get that. I did not sneak in, but fought my way in and no problems with automatic failure. Even if I got killed, (which I did twice), I just reloaded the last save.

Possibly, a quest that's triggered in Whiterun where someone has been arrested/detained and you agree to help find him. I think there's an option of either diplomacy or violence, I chose diplomacy but I don't know how to pass that quest, any attempt to go in and look around is an immediate quest (or sub-quest) failure - though I am given the option of fighting my way in instead.
 
Thanks! But I'm playing on a console (I know.. I know..) so that's not an option. I'm planning on building a "PC console" for attaching to my TV, but for now I guess I'm stuck with wimpy friends.

Sorry to hear that... you'll just have to persevere. ;)

Exactly! Unfortunately, someone said it's explicitly prevented in the game, essential characters are invincible. It's understandable - as a developer I can imagine just how difficult it would be to handle every such situation; and the number of permutations you'd have to handle in the quests and dialogue.

At least until you reach the quest to...... :)

Possibly, a quest that's triggered in Whiterun where someone has been arrested/detained and you agree to help find him. I think there's an option of either diplomacy or violence, I chose diplomacy but I don't know how to pass that quest, any attempt to go in and look around is an immediate quest (or sub-quest) failure - though I am given the option of fighting my way in instead.

So you are not speaking of Thorald Gray-Mane? Because my impression is that in that quest whether you sneak in or fight in, the end result is a fight to get him out of where he is being held.
 
Did that generate a bounty on your character?

I believe it did add bounty, but I had just completed something and didn't feel like restarting from a previous save. I just gave all my stolen items to my companion and then paid the bounty.

Money in this game has not really been an issue for me. I found one of the best ways to make cash is through alchemy. For a long time, I collected ingredients whenever I could, and was storing them in a chest in my house. One night I took them all out and went on an alchemy binge, crafting hundreds of potions. I've invested with all the merchants in Whiterun and they still cant keep up enough cash for me to sell all my stuff.
On a similar note, I make sure whenever I am going to have someone teach me a skill, that have enough stuff to sell back to them when I am done. For example, I had Feralda in Winterhold teach me destruction magic for 5 levels at a cost of $3000-$4000 each. When I was done, I sold her a TON of potions (you'll need to upgrade the speech perks to sell anything to any merchant) and got almost all of my $19,000 back.
 
I believe it did add bounty, but I had just completed something and didn't feel like restarting from a previous save. I just gave all my stolen items to my companion and then paid the bounty.

Money in this game has not really been an issue for me. I found one of the best ways to make cash is through alchemy. For a long time, I collected ingredients whenever I could, and was storing them in a chest in my house. One night I took them all out and went on an alchemy binge, crafting hundreds of potions. I've invested with all the merchants in Whiterun and they still cant keep up enough cash for me to sell all my stuff.
On a similar note, I make sure whenever I am going to have someone teach me a skill, that have enough stuff to sell back to them when I am done. For example, I had Feralda in Winterhold teach me destruction magic for 5 levels at a cost of $3000-$4000 each. When I was done, I sold her a TON of potions (you'll need to upgrade the speech perks to sell anything to any merchant) and got almost all of my $19,000 back.

Mostly I'm doing alchemy and enchanting. Alchemy is profitable. My impression is Enchanting is not, although my goal was to create enchanted light armor to wear as a mage. However, there is light armor out in the world with enchantments or can be enchanted without having to make it. As you said, I collect ingredients and whoop up a batch of different potions. I keep most of the magic, stamina, and health potions using them during a fight and sell the rest. I started working on smithing. However all of it so far has been iron. Iron armor seems to be much more valuable than the basic ingredients sold as is. As a mage, I won't use perks to up my smithing skills to the higher material levels until I've maxed out my magic.
 
I've found Alchemy is fun enough to level up... I haven't used a guide, and done it all ad-lib, but I'm only in the 30's skill level for it. It seems to level very slowly.

I'm a melee-first character, and I've already maxed my smithing. Alchemy and Enchanting are coming up now, but as I said, slowly.

Have you found any potions outside of health/magic/stamina that you can't live without?
 
Sorry to hear that... you'll just have to persevere. ;)

I know...... First world problems! :p (Or should that be Nirn world problems?)

At least until you reach the quest to...... :)

Sshhhhh! Spoilers!! I'm one of those players who makes a beeline AWAY from any important quests I'm doing. As soon as anyone says "Hey, dragons attacking! You need to come NOW!", I instantly wander down any and every side-street/country lane to see if there's anything there first. So even though I'm Lvl 45 and have loads of loot, I've made little progress on the quests.

So you are not speaking of Thorald Gray-Mane? Because my impression is that in that quest whether you sneak in or fight in, the end result is a fight to get him out of where he is being held.

That's the guy! I think there was a conversation where you can volunteer to "break" him out of prison, or try diplomacy. I said diplomacy, but I don't know how to do it; plus it's annoying how suddenly you can fail that mission without any warning. You still have the option to break him out by force though!
 
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Thats the one with the 9400m right?
 
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I ran it in boot camp on my MacBook just to test it out. It runs alright on low-medium settings with around 35-45 FPS. I played a good 3-4 hours just to make sure, it worked well enough to play!
 
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