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Yes the iBook had two graphics variants depending on the date of the model you have…they either were the radeon 9200 and or the radeon 9550….you need to have “Linux radeon.agpmode=-1 radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:ff no splash” it needs to be entered exactly as you see in the quotes including the letter l in linux….it needs to be uppercase…if it still freezes take off the video=offb:
I set /etc/default/grub as this:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet radeon.agpmode=-1 radeon.modset=1 video=offb : off (without the spaces) nosplash"
, rebuilt the grub.cfg file and did some “crash testing” browsing with Arctic Fox but it froze after ~20 second.So I took out the
video=offb : off with the same outcome.Perhaps is something related to grub? How do I install yaboot if it is indeed a grub issue?
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It has nothing to do with the bootloader all its doing is launching the kernel which is Linux…make sure there is no spaces between offb : off you have spaces in the above response and on top of that you still need to add Linux it is important Capital Linux and then the agpmode, modeset and no splash…you can also try it by typing it out at boot before making modifications to your config file to test and there would be no need to reconfigure or update anything until you find a combination that works for your machine…now I will say the iBooks with Radeon 9200 actually had massive video issues and a repair program had been issued along with a battery recall in 2005 when apple was offering free out of warranty repairs and battery swaps…if you notice it starts out ok and as you start using it and it heats up notice it starts locking up may actually be a video chip failure/chip creek from the prolonged heat exposure after almost 20 years….my Mac mini unfortunately has this issue and for about 35-40 minutes it’s absolutely fine and as it’s getting toasty the screen starts glitching and locks up and or kernel panics if I’m booted in Mac OS…you can download the apple service diagnostic discs which because of the recall program also introduced the ability for techs/Geniusbar to test the graphics chip…maybe worth downloading and trying to run a diagnostic on it.
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I added “Linux” before all the other parameters and now it seems that it doesn’t freeze anymore. I didn’t thought that it needed to be added, my bad.
I’ll pay attention to any excess heat, thanks for warning me. Even though this iBook has a 9550, not a 9200, but we’re still talking about ~18 y/o tech…
Update: nope, it still crashed… Fine, configuring yaboot can’t be that hard right?
I’ll pay attention to any excess heat, thanks for warning me. Even though this iBook has a 9550, not a 9200, but we’re still talking about ~18 y/o tech…
Update: nope, it still crashed… Fine, configuring yaboot can’t be that hard right?
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Btw, just for fun, I decided to run Debian with the stock 512MB of ram (my iBook currently has 512 of stock ram + a 512mb module) and it actually didn’t froze. I was able to browse the internet and download a wallpaper without any major problem (the ram remained at a comfy ~300MB of usage), so maybe it’s not video-card issue but a RAM issue?
Yaboot isn't going to do anything at all. Yaboot and Grub are there to begin the boot process. The kernel handles the hardware and sleep, etc. Grub and Yaboot have nothing to do with the system lockups, as it's all handled by the kernel. It can very likely be RAM. During the install process, you want to create a third partition for something called swap. A swap partition is a portion of your hard drive used when you run out of RAM. Basically, think of it as additional RAM but using the hard disk. Physical RAM is always going to be faster, and the swap RAM is used to store active programs that are idle or not being utilized at that point, moving them back into RAM if the program or service is activated. In other words, if that partition was never created, Linux will still boot and work. But if it runs out of RAM, instead of bogging down or slowing down using the much slower swap memory, it will look at all active and inactive processes in RAM, start killing less important services, and eventually critical services, causing the system to lock up and crash. Swap partitions were made to help solve that problem. Debian, by default, does not automatically create that swap partition, if I remember correctly. Sorry for the wall of text; I just wanted to explain it if others come here asking the same question. Cheers!
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No need to excuse yourself.
I already have a swap partition of 1gb so I think that it’s fine.
I’ll play around more with 512mb of ram + swap to see if it keeps freezing, and eventually do a ram check or upgrade altogether.
Okay, my results are back and no it is not a memory issue.
One thing I remember is that I tried other Linux distro on that machine, but after setting the boot parameters they didn’t froze up. Could be something about the kernel version that’s too new? I tried Kompiling(TM) a version of Linux 3.19 and 2.6 but I was unable to because it couldn’t find some headers files (compiler-gcc{13}.h).
I tried installing everything about gcc13 but failed since the repositories are borked. What to do now?
One thing I remember is that I tried other Linux distro on that machine, but after setting the boot parameters they didn’t froze up. Could be something about the kernel version that’s too new? I tried Kompiling(TM) a version of Linux 3.19 and 2.6 but I was unable to because it couldn’t find some headers files (compiler-gcc{13}.h).
I tried installing everything about gcc13 but failed since the repositories are borked. What to do now?
Guys i tried everything.
I Want to install Debian 12.0.0 Alpha netinsta.iso
It is the only one that will Boot in my Powermac g5 Quad. When i use default install it turnd into a white screen and „smp_core99_bringup_done“
I have the Nvidia 6600 stock gpu in my Powermac but i have an unflashed Nvidia Quadro FX4500.
Any ideas how to fix that
I Want to install Debian 12.0.0 Alpha netinsta.iso
It is the only one that will Boot in my Powermac g5 Quad. When i use default install it turnd into a white screen and „smp_core99_bringup_done“
I have the Nvidia 6600 stock gpu in my Powermac but i have an unflashed Nvidia Quadro FX4500.
Any ideas how to fix that
Maybe having two nvidia cards confuses the nouveau driver? I could never get it to work under Debian anyway (with a flashed GF 7800 GTX 512Mb that is, although it works fine under OpenSUSE even under Gnome/Wayland albeit a tad slow), even though there are some things you could try such as the following append:
Code:
video=offb:off video=nouveaufb:off video=radeonfb:off nouveau.modeset=1 radeon.modeset=0 nouveau.config=NvMSI=0 pci=reallocIf that fails maybe try with a radeon card (any radeon HD will be enough to render Gnome/Wayland) with the following append (this is what works for me with an unfleshed Radeon HD 5770 as the primary graphics card and the GF 7800 GTX 512Mb for boot-up):
Code:
video=offb:off video=nouveaufb:off video=radeonfb:off nouveau.modeset=0 radeon.modeset=1 radeon.agpmode=-1 radeon.dpm=0 pci=reallocGood luck!
also be aware that there is a transition going on to rebuild all packages to fix the 2038 bug that effects ALL 32-bit installations….so your mileage may very until the transitions complete…updated status will be posted here….this goes for everyone…DO NOT UPDATE until you see status complete…theres a bunch of people thats been flooding chat because there not reading the current status. hope this helps feel free to dm if you have any other questions!
feel free to dm if you have any other questions!
yes thats what everyone in the debian irc has been sayingggg “hmmmmmmm” because its literally posted all over debian's pages and the headers in irc but its not stoping people from asking lol so I figured id post it here because if you look at the message lists it is literally pages of the same question lol
The developer who maintains the powerpc port in Germany has been responding giving the same response that the issue being worked on
The developer who maintains the powerpc port in Germany has been responding giving the same response that the issue being worked on
it is 64-bit I was posting the 32 bit side because the mailing lists and chat are being bombed by the same questions…there is known install issues both 32 and 64 two issues are different there just effecting both at the same time…if you click the link debians page it will explain everything. good luck!
So i dont get it. Im really sorry im not into Linux. It is my First linux experince. I didnt find any clear step By step Information how to install Debian 12 on my G5 Quad. I just have a CD-R with 700mb. There are so Many linux .iso versions .
So as i read i need the 12.0.0 June 2023 Version netinsta.iso. And this will work with my GeForce 6600? Is this Right?
So as i read i need the 12.0.0 June 2023 Version netinsta.iso. And this will work with my GeForce 6600? Is this Right?
no its ok lol…dont be sorry you have nothing to be sorry for…grab the netinstall for ppc64 and burn it to a cd and boot like normal by pressing C…its the same boot process your just using an older known snapshot is all
And Where i have to put this Code in Terminal or in the failling installer on linux ?
Okey i try this when im at Home. But sometimes my Powermac dont regonize the disk. It says „load size to small“ and when i try to boot with boot cd;\\ tbxi or something Else it says it cant find this
@Tankerthebuberz the snapshot u send here is working BUT when i press c and is click on default installer. it says loading and then it want to start linux. but it stops . then it says invaild memory accsess at x and then thousend numbers.then the terminal opens and the computer is stuck, i have to manually turn off the powermac g5 what can i do?
In the past I installed some flavors of linux to my PPCs, Void, Debian, Mint etc.
Now I tried to install Debian 12.0 (Date 2024-02-25) on my old iBook 6,7 from 2005. I deleted all partitions with Disk Utility from the 10.5 BootDisk, then I dd'ed it completely. with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk0 bs=1m count=1
I used the guided install, all went well, until I anted to install the desktop environment and the software. it quits with errors, on my console there were following lines:
Grub, too, couldn't be installed.
So I'm stuck atm. is it due to the 2038 bug that the decencies cannot be resolved?
btw: logs are in English/German.
Thank you!
Now I tried to install Debian 12.0 (Date 2024-02-25) on my old iBook 6,7 from 2005. I deleted all partitions with Disk Utility from the 10.5 BootDisk, then I dd'ed it completely. with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk0 bs=1m count=1
I used the guided install, all went well, until I anted to install the desktop environment and the software. it quits with errors, on my console there were following lines:
Grub, too, couldn't be installed.
So I'm stuck atm. is it due to the 2038 bug that the decencies cannot be resolved?
btw: logs are in English/German.
Thank you!
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Grub is broken and it needs to be installed manually. I found out that this guide (intended for macppc gentoo) works great on Debian.
About the missing dependencies… The repositories are broken. I had problems installing stuff because of missing packages a couple months ago too.
Have tried to install
with no success on a QuickSilver Mac G4, 2 GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce4 MX GPU, 20 GB ATA hard drive.
The following occurs on every attempt, at 15% "Select and Install Software" as shown on tty4
I don't know what to do to resolve this. Also attempting to install the GRUB boot loader results in this:
The hard drive IS sdb, with sdb2 being the /boot/grub partiton with a Boot Flag ON.
And what the heck is "leaked on lvdisplay invocation". Never mind, I'll research that one myself.
The above ISO is supposed to be for a ppc32 Newworld Mac, which my G4 is. This should not be this hard.
I love the line about "grub install does not support --no-floppy"
MacMav
debian-12.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso from this site: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2024-02-25/ |
The following occurs on every attempt, at 15% "Select and Install Software" as shown on tty4
I don't know what to do to resolve this. Also attempting to install the GRUB boot loader results in this:
The hard drive IS sdb, with sdb2 being the /boot/grub partiton with a Boot Flag ON.
And what the heck is "leaked on lvdisplay invocation". Never mind, I'll research that one myself.
The above ISO is supposed to be for a ppc32 Newworld Mac, which my G4 is. This should not be this hard.
I love the line about "grub install does not support --no-floppy"
MacMav