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Truefan31

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I'm sure the s6 will outsell the s5. I don't think it'll hit the 70 million by eoy mark they set though. Too many handsets set to come out. Even their own note will get in the way. But I'd be skeptical to call it a failure.
 

that be me

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Sorry, didn't realize. Will post first para when I get home.
I've got you covered:

SEOUL -- Samsung Electronics Co.'s flagship Galaxy S6 smartphone has been modestly outselling its predecessor, but is struggling to keep up with Apple Inc.'s strong-selling iPhone 6, according to new figures from data tracker Counterpoint Technology Market Research.

In the three weeks after the launch of the Galaxy S6 and its curved-screen companion, the Galaxy S6 Edge, on April 10, Samsung has shipped 10 million devices to its distributors and retailers, with about six million of them sold to end users, according to Hong Kong-based Counterpoint.


That was enough to top global sales of last year's Galaxy S5 over the same period, the data tracker said, but not enough to match the April performance of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. Counterpoint didn't specify how many handsets it estimates Apple sold in April.

A Samsung spokeswoman said that the two flagship devices "are well accepted in the market and sustain the high demand since their market launches." She added that the company was ramping up production of the Galaxy S6 Edge, which " will support further growth" but declined to give specific figures.

Samsung doesn't typically release sales figures for individual smartphones.

Apple's large-screen smartphones, which went on sale last fall, have remained popular even eight months after their initial launch. Analysts attribute the resilience to the Cupertino, Calif.-based company's strong brand. The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus were also Apple's first foray into the large-screen handsets that have been especially popular among Asian consumers.

A spokeswoman for Apple didn't respond to a request for comment.

Samsung told investors in the spring that it expected to sell roughly three Galaxy S6 devices for each Galaxy S6 Edge device that it sells. Instead, demand for the Galaxy S6 Edge has exceeded demand, forcing Samsung mobile chief J.K. Shin to warn in April that it would take several months to ramp up manufacturing to meet demand.

While Samsung has boasted of the technology that went into the Galaxy S6 Edge's curved screen, the premium device has proven challenging to mass produce. That has hamstrung Samsung's ability to convert excitement for the device -- it received glowing reviews after it was unveiled in March -- into actual sales.

Peter Richardson, a research director at Counterpoint, said that the Samsung flagship phones could still ring up strong sales in the coming months, but warned that "the window of opportunity to do so is short as consumers don't have much patience in a market with many alternatives."

Samsung is counting heavily on the Galaxy S6 and the S6 Edge to lift sales and prop up its mobile division after one of its most bruising years in recent memory.

Last year, the South Korean technology giant's Galaxy S5 fell flat with consumers and sold just 12 million units in the three months after its April launch, compared with about 16 million units for the preceding flagship phone, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Already, the Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge are on track to fare better, despite launching in just 20 countries, compared to the Galaxy S5's initial 125-country rollout. Counterpoint said Tuesday that it still expects the Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge to sell about 50 million units, in line with analysts' expectations of between 45 million and 60 million units.

While the Galaxy S6 sales figures offer a measure of good news for Samsung, the increased sales come largely at the expense of other Samsung smartphones -- not Apple's, says Counterpoint.

The Korean company's Galaxy Note 4 and its midtier Galaxy A series of smartphones have fared particularly badly, the firm says, with sales falling by between 30% and 40%. As a result, it said, "Samsung's overall market share is not growing despite the relatively successful launch of the Galaxy S6."

The Samsung spokeswoman declined to comment on sales of its other smartphones.
 

tbayrgs

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I've got you covered:

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That was enough to top global sales of last year's Galaxy S5 over the same period, the data tracker said, but not enough to match the April performance of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. Counterpoint didn't specify how many handsets it estimates Apple sold in April.

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Already, the Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge are on track to fare better, despite launching in just 20 countries, compared to the Galaxy S5's initial 125-country rollout. Counterpoint said Tuesday that it still expects the Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge to sell about 50 million units, in line with analysts' expectations of between 45 million and 60 million units.

While the Galaxy S6 sales figures offer a measure of good news for Samsung, the increased sales come largely at the expense of other Samsung smartphones -- not Apple's, says Counterpoint.

The Korean company's Galaxy Note 4 and its midtier Galaxy A series of smartphones have fared particularly badly, the firm says, with sales falling by between 30% and 40%. As a result, it said, "Samsung's overall market share is not growing despite the relatively successful launch of the Galaxy S6."

Not really a fair comparison (sentence in bold) since the 6+ is Apple's equivalent of Samsung's Note 4, though by the sound of it, doesn't appear that including it in the comparison would favor Samsung either.

I have to admit, I'm surprised by the demand for the Edge--not because it's not a good phone but rather the Android market seems to be more fickle with price and the Edge really is, for the most part, just a different aesthetic with very little additional functionality. Kudos to Samsung for nailing a design that appeals to consumers but a shame they didn't anticipate the demand and are now suffering somewhat as a result.
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
Kudos to Samsung for nailing a design that appeals to consumers but a shame they didn't anticipate the demand and are now suffering somewhat as a result.

Apple's also had prediction / supply difficulties with several products over the past few years. Too much of one model, not enough supply of the other. Cook has often had to explain this sales disruption during Apple quarterly calls.

Heh, Just goes to show that neither company knows us as well as they think :D
 

skratch77

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Mar 20, 2013
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These stories have been debunked.samsung officially said it's selling 305,000 gs6s a day.
 

The Game 161

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Dec 15, 2010
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The sales are still impressive. Apple will always sell more due to being apple but the amount buying the S6 just shows how great of a device it is.

i'm guessing these latest numbers are just S6 and not edge?
 

skratch77

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So that'd be like 9-10 million in a month like what's reported wouldn't it? That seems accurate with the article.

The most they ever sold a day first month was 240,000 and that was a 120 country world launch.the gs6 is not doing that because samsung can't make enough edge screens and SoCs to do a full world launch
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
The sales are still impressive. Apple will always sell more due to being apple but the amount buying the S6 just shows how great of a device it is.

Apple also gives the total sales of all their available models... which currently include the 6+, 6, 5S, and 5C.

A direct comparison with just those, would mean including all the Samsung flagship models (S6, Edge and Note), plus lower models equivalent to the 5S and 5C.

i'm guessing these latest numbers are just S6 and not edge?

I think it's both. This reminds me of how analysts say that Apple is doomed if they don't meet expected numbers. It's all relative. As many people point out in response, we should all be so "unsuccessful" :)
 

Michael Goff

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Jul 5, 2012
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How did they trick people, through what means?

My opinion is formed by having a good education and common sense so they failed with me because I reached the conclusion without their help.

I have no clue how they went about it. But when people act like Apple's sales aren't the same as shipments, they've obviously done something right.
 

FFR

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In the three weeks after the launch of the Galaxy S6 and its curved-screen companion, the Galaxy S6 Edge, on April 10, Samsung has shipped 10 million devices to its distributors and retailers, with about six million of them sold to end users, according to Hong Kong-based Counterpoint.

So the 10 million number was SELL-IN, with about 6 million SELL-THROUGH.
This is exactly what I and others have been saying, much to the detriment of some of the others on this board.

if they only launched in 20 countries than that is about 300,000 per country, That is a disaster.


Last year, the South Korean technology giant's Galaxy S5 fell flat with consumers and sold just 12 million units in the three months after its April launch, compared with about 16 million units for the preceding flagship phone, according to a person familiar with the matter.

very low bar.

While the Galaxy S6 sales figures offer a measure of good news for Samsung, the increased sales come largely at the expense of other Samsung smartphones -- not Apple's, says Counterpoint.

The Korean company's Galaxy Note 4 and its midtier Galaxy A series of smartphones have fared particularly badly, the firm says, with sales falling by between 30% and 40%. As a result, it said, "Samsung's overall market share is not growing despite the relatively successful launch of the Galaxy S6."

The Samsung spokeswoman declined to comment on sales of its other smartphones.

so the sales disaster aren't regulated to just the galaxy s6 line, its affecting all of samsung's flagship lines.
 

apolloa

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Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
I believe Samsung have adjusted their projected sales figureds down now, but I would hardly call the S6 a sales disaster as they are still selling bucket loads.
I also read that the up coming S5 Neo exists because Samsung would have lots and lots of unsold S5's so it turns them into a cheaper handset, clever idea. So I guess we could see an S6 Neo next year?
 

SHNXX

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Oct 2, 2013
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It's pretty funny to see comments like "people buy iPhones because they're sheep/it's cool to have/etc."


So when you buy something, it's because you can discern quality but when others buy something, it's because they're sheep?

Please.
 

pdqgp

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Mar 23, 2010
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Can't believe you people are quarreling about sales numbers of such big companies, giving a sh##t on you....

I'm with you.

At the end of the day they are both great phones and IMO Samsung made a much farther leap forward in the S6 over the S5 than the iP6 did over the 5s. That's just me.

They are different but most of that revolves around the OS not the phone. IMO the S6 Edge as a piece of hardware is far nicer than the iP6. Anyone who has held and used it will see that instantly. Software wise, sure Apple has the edge in the publics eye. I get simliar responses to people who are used to driving Chevy's and Fords when they step inside some of my German cars. The imports aren't as intuitive, little harder to service but overall, they are way more fun.
 
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Tsepz

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Can't believe you people are quarreling about sales numbers of such big companies, giving a sh##t on you....

Not only that, these are two big companies that are partnered up in business in some areas, one makes profit off the other, yet here we have some guys comparing sales like they stand to gain something :D it is hilarious.

As we have seen the recent customer satisfaction results; clearly sales do not reflect what a customers think. This reminds me of the days of the Moto RAZR V3, it sold tons, yet if I remember correctly it was never rated a great phone, then Paris Hilton got it in Pink and many just had to have it,lol.
 

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Not only that, these are two big companies that are partnered up in business in some areas, one makes profit off the other, yet here we have some guys comparing sales like they stand to gain something :D it is hilarious.

As we have seen the recent customer satisfaction results; clearly sales do not reflect what a customers think. This reminds me of the days of the Moto RAZR V3, it sold tons, yet if I remember correctly it was never rated a great phone, then Paris Hilton got it in Pink and many just had to have it,lol.

Also, customer satisfaction surveys do not represent what consumers purchase.
 

jamezr

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Also, customer satisfaction surveys do not represent what consumers purchase.
Really??? Care to explain?? How could a customer satisfaction survey well......survey something you didn't buy?
 
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mi7chy

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Oct 24, 2014
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Wanted to wait for the Note 5 but scored a S6 over the weekend with free Moto G that's surprisingly very high quality and competes with the iPhone 6.
 
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