I rather have The Verge criticizes Apple than follow a pro Apple blog/site that talks only about how good iOS is and how there is not flaws.
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The Verge is biased against Apple
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I would rather visit a site that providers unbiased articles rather than follow a pro-Google blog/site that talks only about how good Android is.
There are things Apple does that deserve criticism but there are things Google does that also deserve criticism.
Their articles praising Google Glass or their recent piece about how the authors life was made so much better by switching to a phone with a screen large than an iPhone were VERY biased.
It's not truth. It's opinion. And it's fairly obvious that their relationship with Google is affecting their Apple reporting. Every article about WWDC had a negative tone to it. And it's not just Apple. Microsoft fans would say the same thing.
Honestly I listen to their Vergecast every week.
I remember several episodes where they constantly struck down the Galaxy S4 over the HTC One.
They tend to have strong opinions and both Josh and Nilay use Android phones, Paul uses an iPhone. Actually Nilay uses like three phones (HTC One, HTC First, and iPhone 5).
Its not like they never bashed Google and Android before.
I think its just because iOS 7 and WWDC just happened, there's not really anything else to bash.
There are plenty worse sites.
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What site provides unbiased articles?
Appleinsider?
9to5mac?
Macrumors?
iMore?
All sites are biased, sure the Verge can be bias but its not like they haven't been biased to Google or Android or Samsung. They ripped the Galaxy S4 so many times in their Vergecast over the HTC I actually kind of felt bad (not really) and other plenty of things.
I have found that TheVerge has been pretty pro-Google ever since Google gave the Verge sneak peaks and the Nexus 10 and 4...but I have also seen a serious drop in TheVerge quality reviews too. Even Android fans see it, theres alot of Android forums who are swearing them off too. TheVerge is becoming too big for itself, its going to be the next IGN
I have been noticing it too. I don't care if they are pro-whatever, i can form my opinions. But their reviews and articles have seen a drop of quality in last 3-4 months. I keep seeing more and more posts just reposting news from other sites. Personally i feel like twitter is a better place to get news than any site. For in-depth reviews we have Anandtech.
I do not like Joshua, Nilay or the other dude at all. Joshua especially. I think they are all tools that try way too hard to be something they're not. Waaaaay tooo hard. They act as though they are god's among men and what they do will go down in the annals of history.
I don't go there anymore.
Yep that's why I left the site. I hate the self importance. I hate when tech bloggers/writers think they're so special. With a site like cnet (owned by CBS) you know a lot of the articles are just click bait to get page hits. But I would expect more from the Verge. In fact, even though the comments section on Engadget is vomit worthy I don't mind the site otherwise. They seem to be less interested in generating click bait worthy headlines for more straight reporting. And I give them credit for writing an editorial last year complaining about a race to the bottom in hardware (specifically tablets). Though they did ruin it a bit by going back and adding an editorial comment that the piece wasn't written to justify the price of the iPad mini. I haven't been to the Verge in over a week and I don't miss it one bit.
Like when they destroyed Google when they released the Nexus 4 without LTE? Some people just love to claim bias because they don't agree with someone else. That isn't bias. That is called a difference of opinion.
You can't compare the Verge to the sites you listed above. None of those sites hide that they are Apple centric (and thus more likely to be pro Apple, at least in terms of reporting). And quite honestly I don't think MacRumors is that biased. Go in to the comments section of any article and there's an abundance of critical or negative comments towards/about Apple. Same thing with the alternative to iOS devices forum. Plenty of Apple criticism in there too.
They also pissed on the Galaxy S4...
And had very opinions umm...bad on Samsung's galaxys4 announcement circus.
Exactly. Criticizig iOS' being stale and Apple's being far too greedy in, say, making many of their iDevices useless only two years after stopping selling them (e.g., the 2nd-gen iPod touch, which cannot be targeted since Sep/2012 in new, iOS6 / iPhone5-compliant Xcode projects) isn't necessarily anti-Apple bias.
Of course they can't be 100% pro-Google all the time or everyone would call them out on it. So they throw in a few critical pieces (like the one asking why Google purchased Motorola Mobility) just to keep up the appearance of objectivity. But maybe if Apple had thrown Jony Ive and Craig Federighi at them for an exclusive prior to or right after WWDC their coverage would have been different.
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But that's Samsung not Google.
Of course they can't be 100% pro-Google all the time or everyone would call them out on it. So they throw in a few critical pieces (like the one asking why Google purchased Motorola Mobility) just to keep up the appearance of objectivity. But maybe if Apple had thrown Jony Ive and Craig Federighi at them for an exclusive prior to or right after WWDC their coverage would have been different.
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But that's Samsung not Google.
I think Apple is making many missteps. Hell, I even think Google is hands-down the more promising company. But I'm still with iOS, and I still like Apple. It can't be a praise party all the time, and I think Apple deserves some of this negativity.
I would suggest to everyone to just read the argumentation, and actually read all the articles that were published by The Verge this week. Also listen to the Podcasts. It is obvious that they were very negative. Are they biased? I think so. Am I sure? Of course not.
I hate when people create these strawman. Who here said the Verge (or any other site) has to be "OMG worship apple" otherwise they have an anti-Apple bias?
Knowing how little Apple has added to iOS7 and how both Android and Windows Phone 8 / RT have become much more featureful, I think, criticism is well founded.
For the sake of my sanity, I opted right out of any debate with people about "good" or "bad", as there's always going to be people who disagree with the side you take and the opinions you have, no matter how you attempt to convince them otherwise; something I have learnt is almost impossible, and simply not worth worth it, for countless reasons.
However, I should like to point you in the direction of an incredible WWDC video - one which will better acquaint you with how the logical design and layout of iOS 7 interfaces are conceived, the thought and detail of which are discussed at an extremely deep level, and are impossible to argue with, if one has a logical, natural designer's eye and a will to making tasks as effortless and fluid as possible:
http://devstreaming.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2013/208xex3xyxmpz8s37fk59avul0c5/208/208-SD.mov?dl=1
I'd hope with all my heart that all of you will watch this, but since that is rather unlikely, maybe I'll say this; if you are one who disagrees with iOS 7 design decisions, download and watch this video, then see if you come away with a different view of the OS - I am confident you almost certainly will.
Merely saying "I *hate* iOS 7" is ignorant, unless you've taken time out to watch and read literature from Apple engineers themselves, not just piffle and hearsay from random blogs and tech "journalists".
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However, I should like to point you in the direction of an incredible WWDC video - one which will better acquaint you with how the logical design and layout of iOS 7 interfaces are conceived, the thought and detail of which are discussed at an extremely deep level, and are impossible to argue with, if one has a logical, natural designer's eye and a will to making tasks as effortless and fluid as possible:
http://devstreaming.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2013/208xex3xyxmpz8s37fk59avul0c5/208/208-SD.mov?dl=1
I'd hope with all my heart that all of you will watch this, but since that is rather unlikely, maybe I'll say this; if you are one who disagrees with iOS 7 design decisions, download and watch this video, then see if you come away with a different view of the OS - I am confident you almost certainly will.
Merely saying "I *hate* iOS 7" is ignorant, unless you've taken time out to watch and read literature from Apple engineers themselves, not just piffle and hearsay from random blogs and tech "journalists".
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If the Verge is biased against Apple, and playing so-called favorites with Google, why is it important and worthy of boycotting?
If a person goes to website X and believes all that website X says, without having the desire to verify the information listed, said person has a much bigger problem going on, than visiting a website that may or may not be posting false or misleading information.
If a person goes to website X and believes all that website X says, without having the desire to verify the information listed, said person has a much bigger problem going on, than visiting a website that may or may not be posting false or misleading information.
Josh from The Verge responded on Twitter:
Like most people, he seems to expect a higher level of UI design when it comes to Apple. Some people here think they this is unfair but this is how the world works. Expectations affect people's perceptions. I don't see what is wrong with that.
Like most people, he seems to expect a higher level of UI design when it comes to Apple. Some people here think they this is unfair but this is how the world works. Expectations affect people's perceptions. I don't see what is wrong with that.
He responded after we exchanged some twitts...
I am not only talking about Josh, I am talking about The Verge...
Did you watch the Verge video where they brought in a notable designer to discuss the merits and weaknesses of iOS 7? If you can call that video anything but educational, professional, and well-reasoned, then there's something wrong with you.