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The Verge is biased against Apple
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Actually I did. The designer also said in this video that the OS looks beautiful. It was constructive criticism and I accept it. This is not the issue here. It is the whole coverage of this tech site.
If this isn't evidence I don't know what is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWPqjXYTqYw
Very childish and unprofessional. Really disappointed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWPqjXYTqYw
Very childish and unprofessional. Really disappointed!
Just curious, when Google released Jelly Bean did the do something similar? To me calling in a professional designer to critique beta software that they obviously have had very little time to use (if they actually used it at all) doesn't seem very helpful. Mostly it just comes across a pretentious.
Apple needs to be reminded of its pompous speech every now and then.
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It was a positive critique. People don't hold Google to the same standard because frankly Google is more about ideas and data then design. Apple's strong suit has traditionally been design, it's also what we judge them most by.
Everyone has their own opinion. You have your own opinion. It is your job to listen to whatever opinion you want.
I completely disagree that The Verge is biased against Apple. This is nonsense. Most of you are upset because any level of criticism is aimed at iOS 7.
I agree with Josh that most of these stock icons are ugly but I don't think that in itself is a big deal. Go listen to the latest episodes of The Vergecast and On The Verge and you'll hear an intelligent discussion about the good and bad of iOS 7.
I agree with Josh that most of these stock icons are ugly but I don't think that in itself is a big deal. Go listen to the latest episodes of The Vergecast and On The Verge and you'll hear an intelligent discussion about the good and bad of iOS 7.
But it was hilarious Apple's presenters tossed in a few jokes. I remember laughing several times?
They started being more negative towards Apple after the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 was released. I remember reading the iPhone 5 review that Topolsky wrote, and at the end he said some thing like: "It's time to stop giving Apple a pass". I've got the feeling ever since that they are more pro Google.
That being said, they are honest and upfront in their reviews and articles. I like reading their reviews about a gadget I want to buy.
That being said, they are honest and upfront in their reviews and articles. I like reading their reviews about a gadget I want to buy.
I just reread the review, having read it when it came out, and now having the benefit of having used iOS7 for a week. In all honesty, the biggest issue you could have with Josh is leveling the type of critique he did without first using the OS - but portraying like he had. He spent two paragraphs talking about inconsistent icons. Huh? Yet he talks about all the great features they added in one small paragraph. Why? Because again, as blogger he needed to get something out there quickly based on what he saw. And the only thing I would strongly disagree with is his analysis on CC. Otherwise, if you go on initial looks you cant argue too much with what he said.
I dont think its bias - their changes (and i think somewhat intentionally) were inevitably going to be divisive. I would like to see the Verge post an update after usage. And even an ongoing stream from beta to beta. That would not only be helpful but fair as well.
I dont think its bias - their changes (and i think somewhat intentionally) were inevitably going to be divisive. I would like to see the Verge post an update after usage. And even an ongoing stream from beta to beta. That would not only be helpful but fair as well.
You've summed it up nicely. I agree.
Furthermore a unique characteristic of a large number of Apple supporters is to bash any publication that doesn't share their viewpoints. A particularly revealing comment that reveals the narrow & closed minded views of the person who posts such nonsense.
You're kind of oversimplifying things. It's one thing to discuss negative traits about a company, it's another thing to focus on the negative over the positive- especially when they seem to focus on the positive over the negative with some other companies. I feel as if the article that the OP linked to provided some pretty good reasons as to why The Verge could be favoring Google, but I'm not going to join in the condemnation because there is no solid evidence as to why favoring Google means they have to be biased against Apple. To assume that the editors of a major tech website would succumb to fanboyism is quite a bold claim and one that would need much more substantiation.
I don't think it's unfair to raise questions about their coverage of WWDC, however. Most tech outlets had a cautiously optimistic tone in their reporting, but The Verge seemed to be far less forgiving in their analyses of Apple and what they announced. Again, they have every right to hold whatever opinion they choose, I'm just pointing out my observations. I'm sure your observation differs, and that's cool.
I do not like Joshua, Nilay or the other dude at all. Joshua especially. I think they are all tools that try way too hard to be something they're not. Waaaaay tooo hard. They act as though they are god's among men and what they do will go down in the annals of history.
I don't go there anymore.
Ok... what? You're trying to hard bud.
It wasn't just The Verge. It was about a million other tech sites and Apple investors.
The Verge as a whole seems to be doing downhill since it's launch. I was one of the "This is my Next" followers and then was really excited about the Verge. It started off great but the last six months maybe have been really hard to look at the site with shaking my head. The constant negative slant towards Apple while being hand fed stories from Google is one thing but also the conspiracy mongering with drones and surveillance rubbed me the wrong way as well.
I've also noticed a very heavy hand in the way they control their commenting and forums. I have had comments deleted for reasons I can't imagine. Comments saying something like oh check this out it's related, or completely agreeing all just disappear. I really like some of the work they put out there and it's hard to debate how well put together the site is, but the editorial is going downwards and it's hard to see it coming back up with it's current head staff.
One quick other thing, I think it's made worse by the social media team being on a different page than the website team, who's on a different page from the writing. You'll see the most sensational headlines on facebook, click the link and the story is about something completely different. It makes the entire site feel cheaper, link bait. A lot like HuffPo turned into.
I've also noticed a very heavy hand in the way they control their commenting and forums. I have had comments deleted for reasons I can't imagine. Comments saying something like oh check this out it's related, or completely agreeing all just disappear. I really like some of the work they put out there and it's hard to debate how well put together the site is, but the editorial is going downwards and it's hard to see it coming back up with it's current head staff.
One quick other thing, I think it's made worse by the social media team being on a different page than the website team, who's on a different page from the writing. You'll see the most sensational headlines on facebook, click the link and the story is about something completely different. It makes the entire site feel cheaper, link bait. A lot like HuffPo turned into.
I'm not sure Microsoft has fans so much as users. I don't think it is as emotionally brand driven. There are a lot of weird nitpicky topics on here. Sometimes they're irritating. When people compare a 15" notebook to a boat anchor, I find that to be silly. It's like their point is so miniscule that it would go ignored without gross exaggeration.
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Joshua Topolsky is getting on my nerves, he acts like a high and mighty everything. Just another reason why I'm getting tired of that site.
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The Verge is not my favorite site, that's for sure. Topolsky's love of all things Google comes across as naive. Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind for some reason
On the other hand Apple badly needs to fix its infrastructure and maybe its philosophy regarding iCloud, sandboxing, and its app centric focus. Apple should be criticized for those things else they become complacent.
On the other hand Apple badly needs to fix its infrastructure and maybe its philosophy regarding iCloud, sandboxing, and its app centric focus. Apple should be criticized for those things else they become complacent.
I couldn't help but roll my eyes when I saw this pop up in The Verge:
Watch this: Apple's imperfect video about perfection
I mean, I love The Verge and all, but this is just unnecessary. Really an entire article to moan about an alleged spelling error? Nevermind Vlad's own grammatical errors on this article
Watch this: Apple's imperfect video about perfection
I mean, I love The Verge and all, but this is just unnecessary. Really an entire article to moan about an alleged spelling error? Nevermind Vlad's own grammatical errors on this article
Thank you, I am aware what it means.
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I couldn't help but roll my eyes when I saw this pop up in The Verge:
Watch this: Apple's imperfect video about perfection
I mean, I love The Verge and all, but this is just unnecessary. Really an entire article to moan about an alleged spelling error? Nevermind Vlad's own grammatical errors on this article
I rest my case..I wonder what others have to say now..It is pretty clear that The Verge is on a mission...
Just unbelievable...