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iPhone 15 Pro Max Thermalgate (yup, it's happening): Pics of how you're coping

First, I did set it up as new, actually.

Second, that falls into the category of "you're doing it wrong" is really not a very good explanation for this. Because: 1. The 14PM (and nearly every one before it) could be restored without suffering iPhernogate style results and 2. If Apple can't figure out something as simple as a restore from backup on a new device without turning the device into heating brick, is that really a user problem or an Apple problem? Don't support or advertise a feature that is so broken then!

skrungemaster said:
another point for those of us in the “set up iPhone as new” every time camp
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I think the reality is that it is 3nm, but they changed the internal frame and surface area internally so much that they couldn't move as much heat out as they have in previous designs, and they either did not core (more likely) or they didn't know (impossible, IMO, not at their scale, with the amount of testing that goes into these things).

They'll let this all blow over (sadly, it will, and we'll all just have to accept this as "normal"), and then next year, we'll get sold an "amazing" new design that "radically innovates on thermal management in ways that only Apple can engineer" and have really well produced, incredible videos during a Keynote describing this amazing new innovation that will let me use iPhone 16 Pro Max Ultra Uber Amazing Edition at room temperature than to its new Unobtanium (which is just going back to the old Aluminum) Frame and A18 Ultra SoC, available for Pre Order next week!

Watch, it'll happen. They did it with the keyboards on the MBP. They switched to some thin/horrible design for a few years, had a terrible warranty problem (even a class action?) over it, and then announced a "new amazing" keyboard design that, well, was just the old keyboard design with some small tweaks and called it the greatest thing ever.

Love Apple products for the most part. Hate how self-important they are, and, worse, how they are incapable of admitting they messed up on a design and use the reality distortion field to then somehow make it the user's problem and then parlay that into a "feature" in the next release rather than just make it right (read: redesign it, release a mid cycle update, and give me a free hardware swap when you fix it as well as a credit for iCloud for the year for my trouble). Nah, rather than actually fix what they screwed up, they'll suggest it's the user's problem and the fix is a feature you should be excited for, and worse, pay for.

Remember, you were holding it wrong, too (https://www.wired.com/2010/06/iphone-4-holding-it-wrong/)!

whelmedjedi said:
Another proof of processor in the iphone 15 pro series is not 3nm. If it were 3nm we would see at least %50 better battery life(or %30-40 better cpu performance), %20-30 less heat.

Apple is lying(only gpu cores are 3nm and cpu cores are still 5nm). Or TSMC’s 3nm nodes are big scam.
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bmustaf said:
First, I did set it up as new, actually.

Second, that falls into the category of "you're doing it wrong" is really not a very good explanation for this. Because: 1. The 14PM (and nearly every one before it) could be restored without suffering iPhernogate style results and 2. If Apple can't figure out something as simple as a restore from backup on a new device without turning the device into heating brick, is that really a user problem or an Apple problem? Don't support or advertise a feature that is so broken then!
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I restored my 15 ProMax 4 times in a row trying to get the esim to work with Verizon's tech support and my phone wasn't warm at all. As I stated, not everyone is experiencing "thermalgate", "iPernogate" or whatever name you want to give it.. I can't explain why your phone is getting abnormally hot but it is odd that some are having the issue and others are not
 
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Hahahahaha! But this isn't new tech, it's basically an iPhone 14 with USB-C and some Titanium bits. USB-C has been around and in phones for years but the EU finally forced Apple to come to the 2018 party, and Titanium, well, it's been around since about the formation of the earth and in consumer products for at least 30 years.

This was an unnecessary change that broke things and provided zero value to the core use of the device. Vanity so they could put "titanium" all over the marketing and somehow make people think they actually needed it because "titanium" is a sexy marketing word.
LevorgPenmancho said:
Don’t be the first in line for new tech. You don’t hear anyone complaining about iPhone SE 3rd gen-gate.
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Again, like I said, you're one of the lucky ones. No one said *everyone* is experiencing it, but more than enough people are that it's all over the forums here, elsewhere, and in media (both traditional and social).
BugeyeSTI said:
I restored my 15 ProMax 4 times in a row trying to get the esim to work with Verizon's tech support and my phone wasn't warm at all. As I stated, not everyone is experiencing "thermalgate", "iPernogate" or whatever name you want to give it.. I can't explain why your phone is getting abnormally hot but it is odd that some are having the issue and others are not
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bmustaf said:
Hahahahaha! But this isn't new tech, it's basically an iPhone 14 with USB-C and some Titanium bits. USB-C has been around and in phones for years but the EU finally forced Apple to come to the 2018 party, and Titanium, well, it's been around since about the formation of the earth and in consumer products for at least 30 years.

This was an unnecessary change that broke things and provided zero value to the core use of the device. Vanity so they could put "titanium" all over the marketing and somehow make people think they actually needed it because "titanium" is a sexy marketing word.
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I love the titanium on my AWU. It honestly seems indestructible but it also doesn't have that coating like the 15 Pros.

I could care less about USB C. Its more of an annoyance since I now have to buy at least 2 new cables.
 
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NEPOBABY said:
The firstworldproblemers are the only ones 'coping'.

The rest of us just use our phone.

If you have an issue with heat, it's the way you use it. Try to stop scrolling on Instagram and other socials every two minutes. That **** eats resources.
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Yes exactly. You use the phone too much so it overheats. Use it less.
 
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bmustaf said:
Again, like I said, you're one of the lucky ones. No one said *everyone* is experiencing it, but more than enough people are that it's all over the forums here, elsewhere, and in media (both traditional and social).
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Social media is no longer a reliable indicator of the reality of anything, unfortunately. If "hot iphone" is the latest traffic-driving clickbait, then yes, you'll see it everywhere.

Anecdotally, my 15 Pro Max has surprised me with how cool it stays playing rounds of Call of Duty Mobile with very-high settings and framerate. Doesn't even really feel "warm", let alone hot.

Conversely, my iPhone 13 Pro used to get super hot just doing a Facetime call, which seems to not really be abnormal. There is probably a decent percentage of people whose phones have always gotten hot doing various tasks, but never thought anything about it until they saw someone else's instagram reel complaining about it. Bandwagon effect can be strong...
 
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bmustaf said:
Again, like I said, you're one of the lucky ones. No one said *everyone* is experiencing it, but more than enough people are that it's all over the forums here, elsewhere, and in media (both traditional and social).
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I agree. I don't doubt you and the other threads on the forum discussing this are experiencing abnormal/excessive heat from their phones. I hope it can be hammered out because it really ruins the new phone experience. I was pissed Verizon couldn't get my esim to work for two days! This is my first esim experience and I'm not impressed..
 
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Zest28 said:
If you put it in a case, you don't feel the heat right?
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Until it's too late.

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whelmedjedi said:
Another proof of processor in the iphone 15 pro series is not 3nm. If it were 3nm we would see at least %50 better battery life(or %30-40 better cpu performance), %20-30 less heat.

Apple is lying(only gpu cores are 3nm and cpu cores are still 5nm). Or TSMC’s 3nm nodes are big scam.
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bmustaf said:
Again, like I said, you're one of the lucky ones. No one said *everyone* is experiencing it, but more than enough people are that it's all over the forums here, elsewhere, and in media (both traditional and social).
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It is bizarre how some people get defensive and even angry if you have a problem that they're not having. I don't necessarily mean the people you are replying to here, but some people are like that.
 
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And everyone else who is having this problem? Anything is possible. Rather, the more probable explanation, esp after seeing teardowns, etc, is that they reduced the surface area of the internal frame and boxed themselves into some really unsavory thermals despite Ti being a more effective conductor.

So, yeah, the software fix will likely just throttle the CPU/GPUs, negating any advance of the A17 Pro other than USB-C, and in doing so, negate the thing we actually want here: a CPU/GPU combo that continues to advance.

Honestly, if I could just go back to my iPhone 14 Pro max with USB-C and that 5x zoom, and the action button, I'd love it, because, well, that's basically all the iPhone 15 Pro Max is: an iPhone 14 Pro Max with zoom, an action button, USB-C and really, really terribly regressive thermals because, uh, "titanium" and saving 15g? Geez.
surfzen21 said:
Maybe Meta is using you and you don't know it.
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God forbid we actually want to use our iPhones for what they are marketed for, right?

Suggesting the user is at fault or should modify what they expect/do/want for using a device they bought and are using in 100% accordance with the marketing and direction from the manufacturer? You will be right at home in Apple PR/Customer Service!
LevorgPenmancho said:
The iPhone SE 3rd Gen can text and browse the web.
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