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They should let us disable metal
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Wow that lag on the app switcher. It looks close to 15 fps. My iPad Air is the exact same. It happens sometimes on my iPhone 6S as well.
Believe me. It look smoother from the video than it actually is.
iOS 8.0 had plenty of lag issues, certainly more and more noticeable by more people than what is there with iOS 9.0.
When it comes to that minor lag, perception that it's extreme isn't one that is a realistic one. Perhaps someone might be bothered by it extremely, but that doesn't make it extreme. Just because someone might be bothered by a perfectly normal but slightly untidy room doesn't make that room filthy and discussing, yet that those are the type of conclusions being thrown around.
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It's my opinion that viewing an uploaded video through youtube contributed to perception of dropped frames without having to "attack" someone's point of view as you just "attacked" my point of view. I did agree iOS 9 stutters and they also agreed iOS 8.4.1 stutters and while I appreciate the video it does not really prove the point in my mind; the hyperbole in your post aside.
Unfortunately my iPhone 5C is more smooth than my 6s on iOS9 which is unacceptable. Heck I can't believe app switcher runs 60 FPS on the 5C while it drops to 20 FPS on my 6s. iOS9 stuttering is like android which is NOT acceptable since one of the main points of switching to iOS is the lag free experience.
As I said, except for recents my 6s is smooth. Yeah recents is an issue, but not a deal breaker.
If anything, the YouTube video actually hides the issue. The video is 30fps, iOS can render up to 60fps. A big drop in framerate from 60fps to 25fps looks like a very small framedrop (only 5fps) on YouTube. If you see recorded stutter on YouTube, it's probably worse in real life.
YouTube supports 60fps though, so it's more useful if people start filming and uploading 60fps videos.
If you want to quickly demonstrate the effect of 30fps vs 60fps for yourself: open the camera app and switch from slow-mo to video. The slow-mo viewfinder is 60fps, the video viewfinder is much lower fps depending on the lighting conditions.
You may be right but in my mind only half the frame rate is being shown contributing to jerkiness. If you showed the video at 10fps it would be a world of difference.
You're right in the sense that half the frame rate makes everything look jerky. However, smooth animations will also start to look jerky, which makes the real-life jerky animations and the recorded smooth animations almost all look the same. In a 30fps video, the contrast between smooth animations and jerky animations simply isn't there.
Yes, I'm sorry for attacking you on my previous post. I just get slightly mad because we all already agree that iOS 9 have stutters, but the conversation is not constructive and going nowhere. Anyway, do you see the lag from the video? Take a closer look on the spotlight delay.
Hello Merike, It's true. The lag on the video can't justify the real thing. It actually look much smoother on the video compared to real life. But I believe everyone will notice the spotlight lag.
By the way, can ip5s record 60fps? I never took a video with phone, so I don't understand it at all. I actually want to record it with DSLR, but it took a long time to set up everything and I don't know if it even support 60fps (Canon 100D).
People forget how many issues the first iOS 8 release had. In my opinion, iOS 9 is ahead of iOS 8 at same point in the update process.
Anyway, I've recorded the video again with 60fps (I'm not sure. CMIIW). I use slow-mo video from 5S, but only use the effect on last second. It now shows the issue closer to real life (I think). Will update this post in few minutes.
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No question that iOS 8 on iP6 was a mess. I am more speaking of issues with things not working correctly not how "smooth" it was. Things like locking up in landscape, videos hanging, safari issues, the list goes on. I for one had much rather things work as they should. So far with iOS 9 (at least 9.1) everything pretty much works as it should other than a few minor visual annoyances. As for smoothness, I barely see any difference with a side by side comparison with iP6 on 8.4.1 (wifes) and iP6 on 9.1 (mine) and must be side by side looking for it to even notice the slight milliseconds difference in opening apps and such. Certainly not the huge difference some here are advocating.
Holy hell I thought my Air 2 was bad but this is beyond unacceptable.Major LOL at people trying to justify this as YouTube lag.How blind can you get with Apple
Whatever is there totally makes the OS and the device unusable. The horror. Talk about blowing things out of proportion.
I don't have an iPad Air, I have an iPad 2.
omg, throw the device out. Seriously the quality of the video is that it doesn't really show all that much. While I don't doubt you see the artifacts clearly not there for everyone or to the same degree.
I'll embed the 60fps video to https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-annually-slowing-down-our-devices.1926081/page-10 if anyone is interested.
Great video, it really shows the frame drops more clearly. I will attach this video to an Apple bug report as well.
iOS 9 was advertised as being more refined with better performance and frame rates due to "Metal", but instead, we got worse performance and worse frame rates due to "Metal".
Is the device un-usable? No. Did we get what we were told? No again. Does it take some of the joy out of using the device? Absolutely.
Looks are very important for the overall impression of the OS. I mean, jeeze, it's only the first thing you see whenever you look at your phone.
The first thing I see is lag. Every day. Lag lag lag.
The Air 2 costed me $700 as it would have for someone a first gen Air and the fact that the Air 1 stutters at just basic things is unacceptable.Is the device unusable?Hell no.But then is the $300 Nexus 9 unusable?No.So not sure why you keep bringing that up.The reason we pay the premium for iOS is the fluidity,smoothness and the magical experience and these things detract from the user experience
I also have a 2013 Nexus 7 here on Android Marshmallow and I bought it for 250 bucks and the funny thing is that if I posted a video of it and compared it with the Air 1 video above,it aged miles better.Not saying its smooth but not as bad as that video
Because a number of people are continuously implying that it is horrific and unusable.
And that is a much more realistic take on it.