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sean000

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Been using Omnifocus 3 for awhile now. I was doing the beta and now that it is released on iOS, i absolutely love it. I am very surprised though that there has been no mention go the Omnifocus 3 for iOS update or release posted anywhere in MacRumors. Not one word. There have been several great changes to Omnifocus, they now support multiple tags per item and you can now create more perspectives as well.

I have used multiple task apps over the years and Omnifocus has been my go to app since i got my first MacBook Pro back in 2011. Been through versions one, two and now 3. It's gotten so much better over the years. I have also tried Todoist, Things 3, ToDo (Appigo), 2Do, Tick Tick, and another favorite is Informant. Somehow I just keep coming back to Omnifocus. I've read people balking about the costs, but all I can say it is well worth the cost. This is the only app of the ones that I mentioned whereas I did not lose data, in any way shape or form and that is most important to me. I never had a sync issue in the 7 years or so I've had Omnifocus and I cannot say the same for any of the other apps that I mentioned. So when it comes to reliability Omnifocus wins hands down.

Now that is not to say any of the others are bad. I will admit that each of the other apps mentioned has attributes that I like over the others and that is also important. Not every app will please everyone and a task manager is a personal choice. Check out Omnifocus 3 for iOS if you haven't yet, you might be quite surprised.

I have always thought the price for Omnifocus was reasonable for what it is. I just left it because I realized I'm better off with something that can run on Windows as well as iOS. Omnifocus is an excellent tool, and it's hard to put a price on productivity. TickTick Premium runs me $28 a year, which many people still consider to be too much to pay when there are alternatives running from free to five bucks (and of course there is a free version of TickTick). I guess it all comes down to how much you get out of your app. I think we can assume that those of us having this discussion are power users who get quite a lot out of our task and project management tools.

Enjoy the new version! If Omnifocus ever releases a Web or Windows client, I might give it another go.
 
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ScottNWDW

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I have always thought the price for Omnifocus was reasonable for what it is. I just left it because I realized I'm better off with something that can run on Windows as well as iOS. Omnifocus is an excellent tool, and it's hard to put a price on productivity. TickTick Premium runs me $28 a year, which many people still consider to be too much to pay when there are alternatives running from free to five bucks (and of course there is a free version of TickTick). I guess it all comes down to how much you get out of your app. I think we can assume that those of us having this discussion are power users who get quite a lot out of our task and project management tools.

Enjoy the new version! If Omnifocus ever releases a Web or Windows client, I might give it another go.

I agree that as long as you are finding value out of an app it is worth the cost, regardless of how much it costs. I've always felt that Omnifocus was well priced for the type of app it was and I also tried Tick Tick, Todoist and others. I never felt that any of them were overpriced. If the app does what you need it to do and it benefits you then it is worth it no matter the cost.

As for Omnifocus there are rumors that later this year they may bring it to the web. But we shall see.
 
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iToNe24

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I have used DUE for many years but my reminders needs has grown into tasks and folders needs which DUE doesn’t offer.
I tried numerous applications on AppStore for task/reminder organization but some seem so much more than what I needn’t. I am using the APPLE reminders application as it offers a clean look and simply navigation. I do need a little more with quick time reminder additions and checklist.
Siri really doesn’t work for me since the noisy environment that I am usually in.

I wasn’t able to try THINGS on iOS since there is no trial but tried on MAC and it seems there are many clicks needed to add a simple task with a reminder.
Not to mention when the notification goes off there is no quick way to reschedule to a new time or date and time. Again with the many clicks again.
Is it quicker on IOS? I couldn’t find any videos demonstrating adding reminder alert times on iOS and then rescheduling from lockscreen or completing.

I bought 2Do some months back and went back into that again to test out. It’s seems like a great application but again bloated with more than what I need and I think THINGS is a cleaner simpler UI than 2Do.

I’m open to any suggestions my fellow IOS users have.

Really just looking for a clean UI interface with gesture support, quick alert reminders and snoozing from application and lockscreen.
Ability to creat lists (folders) and checklist.

Can anyone suggest an application that maybe they tested and meets the bill for what I am looking for ?
 

sean000

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I have used DUE for many years but my reminders needs has grown into tasks and folders needs which DUE doesn’t offer.
I tried numerous applications on AppStore for task/reminder organization but some seem so much more than what I needn’t. I am using the APPLE reminders application as it offers a clean look and simply navigation. I do need a little more with quick time reminder additions and checklist.
Siri really doesn’t work for me since the noisy environment that I am usually in.

I wasn’t able to try THINGS on iOS since there is no trial but tried on MAC and it seems there are many clicks needed to add a simple task with a reminder.
Not to mention when the notification goes off there is no quick way to reschedule to a new time or date and time. Again with the many clicks again.
Is it quicker on IOS? I couldn’t find any videos demonstrating adding reminder alert times on iOS and then rescheduling from lockscreen or completing.

I bought 2Do some months back and went back into that again to test out. It’s seems like a great application but again bloated with more than what I need and I think THINGS is a cleaner simpler UI than 2Do.

I’m open to any suggestions my fellow IOS users have.

Really just looking for a clean UI interface with gesture support, quick alert reminders and snoozing from application and lockscreen.
Ability to creat lists (folders) and checklist.

Can anyone suggest an application that maybe they tested and meets the bill for what I am looking for ?

I still use DUE in addition to TickTick and Fantastical 2 (which can also handle reminders). I like Due because of the options for setting recurring reminders and also reminders with custom nag-me intervals. I don't put much into Due, because TickTick is my task list. I get reminders from TickTick, but I still turn to Due when I want something to nag me every 5 minutes to do something at a specific time. I haven't used the stock Apple Reminders app in a long time, but maybe it can do more than it used to.

Most task list apps fall somewhere on the spectrum between simple and complex. The best ones offer simplicity when it comes to creating, viewing, and modifying/completing tasks... but they also have more advanced features you can leverage if you need to. I liked 2Do an awful lot, but Things definitely had a simpler and less cluttered interface. Ultimately neither one seemed right for me (although I have not used the latest version of Things). TickTick has a pretty simple interface, but has more powerful features underneath the surface. It does let you use gestures to postpone/reschedule appointments. It doesn't give you as many options from the lock screen, but you can swipe to snooze 15 minutes, 1 hour, or mark complete. Overall it just appeals to me more than 2Do or Things, although all three are excellent apps.

Because this stuff is so personal, the best thing you can do is to try the ones that offer free trials (or that are free unless you pay to unlock advanced features). I have tried some perfectly good apps that work well for others, but just didn't appeal to me. A task management app should make you feel calm, confident, and in a reasonable amount of control. When I have tried to make one work that just didn't appeal to me, it just made me anxious and stressed.
 

iToNe24

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Thank u for taking the time to reply n provide some insite. I would of probably bought THINGS but the lack of quick alert notifications kept me from purchasing as well as the lack of updates. Took a very long time between version 2 and 3 with minn updates. The UI looks very clean though. 2Do is definitely better with quick actions but yes very cluttered and icons all over the place. I will give ticktick a look again. I used it years ago when on android. Haven’t looked at it again since back on IOS as I tend to stay away from subscription applications.
 

JD2015

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Things 3 is very good. However, sync with reminders app is very poor and a dealbreaker for me. I use Fantastical 2 which links in with reminders app superbly. It appears quite a hassle to get things 3 to sync across devices and with other services. I therefore, would only use Things 3 for light projects. I stand to be corrected if I said anything about the sync feature which is not correct. Todo also suffers from this also. I could of course just use Things 3 and native calendar together. However, the natural languge and quick way of creating events and basic tasks is compelling feature of Fantastical 2 along with it listing your events and to do’s all in one place.
 

iToNe24

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Things 3 is very good. However, sync with reminders app is very poor and a dealbreaker for me. I use Fantastical 2 which links in with reminders app superbly. It appears quite a hassle to get things 3 to sync across devices and with other services. I therefore, would only use Things 3 for light projects. I stand to be corrected if I said anything about the sync feature which is not correct. Todo also suffers from this also. I could of course just use Things 3 and native calendar together. However, the natural languge and quick way of creating events and basic tasks is compelling feature of Fantastical 2 along with it listing your events and to do’s all in one place.

Thank You as well for taking the time to reply.
I also use Fantastical for calendar and tried its integration with reminders.
It is limited at best.
It killed me that fantastical imported your reminders and sorted them in alphabetical order disregarding the sort u have in reminders application. You also did not have the option to manually sort in fantastical.
I tried calendars 5 by Readdle and that handled reminders better .. it mirrored my sort of reminders and also allowed you to manually sort within the application.
I reached out to fantastical and they said they get inform from API and that is the only option they have.
They said calendars 5 might be getting from iCloud or a different method.
Doesn't seem like fantastical was looking to grow and make any changes with reminders.
 

iToNe24

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TickTick is my task list.
I actually tried TickTick again on IOS this time and it seems u get allot for Free, haha
I don't think i am on a trial ... the only things i think u have to pay for are some of the themes and different calendar views as well as subscribing to calendars, limit to 9 lists on free version ... all the other default functions are free with no advertisements.
With those small premium feature i am not sure why they are charging a monthly fee.
If i want a black theme i need to pay $3 bucks a month .....?
Are you on the free version as well or upgraded to premium ... am i missing what else premium gives you??
this list what u get with premium
https://ticktick.com/about/upgrade
 
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sean000

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I actually tried TickTick again on IOS this time and it seems u get allot for Free, haha
I don't think i am on a trial ... the only things i think u have to pay for are some of the themes and different calendar views as well as subscribing to calendars, limit to 9 lists on free version ... all the other default functions are free with no advertisements.
With those small premium feature i am not sure why they are charging a monthly fee.
If i want a black theme i need to pay $3 bucks a month .....?
Are you on the free version as well or upgraded to premium ... am i missing what else premium gives you??
this list what u get with premium
https://ticktick.com/about/upgrade

I have a premium subscription because I use a number of customs filters and tags. I think the free version lets you set up one custom filter. I used the free version for a long time, and then decided I liked it enough to pay for the additional features.
 

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meeebee

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I'm wondering if the best task list app depends on how active you are in the managing of it.

For example, it seems like those that have smaller task lists, or want a hands-off approach like Things3. And those that want more structure and direction like Omnifocus.

I'm just guessing here, so when you say which one you like better, it would be helpful to also state your amount of tasks and how active you like the app to be.
 
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meeebee

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Just noticed Toodledo was purchased by new buyers with intention of improving the product further. It could be very good or disappointingly bad. The new owners are soliciting for new features, so it's a wait and see. And 2Do with Toodledo seems a workable solution for the moment.
 

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I had been using Things 3 (Mac and iOS) for a while, and just recently purchased Omni Focus. While Things 3 is a aesthetically pleasing looking app with powerful features, I found Omni Focus more to my liking, as it has Siri integration, ability to set times for tasks, (unlike Things 3) amongst many other features that aren''t in Things.
 

Skeptical.me

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The choice for a ToDo app is a personal thing. Everyone has their own preferences: do you want a simple todo list or more complex features. Do you want syncing between iPhone, iPad, iMac. Do you want integration with other apps. Etcetera.

I myself am using Omnifocus which has a lot of functionality but can be too much for other people.

You're perfectly correct about personal preference.

I use OmniFocus as well. I swapped to 2DO for some time (and its really good as well). However, I went back to OmniFocus, its brilliant. I love the Projects and Contexts aspects and how the tasks are streamlined into your daily inbox. Also, for daily tasks that repeat its great, I have what I call Stack Habits. 5 minute daily tasks stacked up to a total of 30 minutes (ie clean the bedroom, take out plates and cups, sanitize keyboard and mouse, wash and dry clothes etc, and so on). And the fact it works so well with the Apple Watch makes it ideal for me.
 

KarimLeVallois

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I had been using Things 3 (Mac and iOS) for a while, and just recently purchased Omni Focus. While Things 3 is a aesthetically pleasing looking app with powerful features, I found Omni Focus more to my liking, as it has Siri integration, ability to set times for tasks, (unlike Things 3) amongst many other features that aren''t in Things.

Slightly confused by this as I use Siri integration for Things 3 and add timed reminders daily... Am I missing something? Things 3 is by far my most used app and nothing else compares for me. It can be as simple or as complicated as you want it to be. I use it for personal reminders, errands, subscription renewals, right through to complicated projects at work.

OmniFocus is just too cluttered, the UI looks rather ugly and the whole thing just clunky in comparison. It is also REALLY over priced for what it is. Just my personal opinion though lol
 
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sean000

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I'm wondering if the best task list app depends on how active you are in the managing of it.

For example, it seems like those that have smaller task lists, or want a hands-off approach like Things3. And those that want more structure and direction like Omnifocus.

I'm just guessing here, so when you say which one you like better, it would be helpful to also state your amount of tasks and how active you like the app to be.

My wife and I are good examples of the vastly different approaches in terms of volume and structure. Some people maintain only short task lists related to specific contexts or projects. Others use task lists to help manage all aspects of their working and personal lives. I definitely fall into the latter category. Even when I was a teenager I was a list maker. If I don't make lists, I start to feel overwhelmed and anxious. That means I tend to have a lot of lists and a lot of items on those lists... so I need a tool that can help me avoid being overwhelmed by the lists that are supposed to keep me organized. My wife is just the opposite. She makes short lists for very specific projects, completes them, and throws them away. My lists are constantly churning with new tasks being added and old ones been completed, re-prioritized, or deleted. My dependency on lists led me to the popular David Allen GTD methodology some years ago, which many of these apps are based on. I read his book back then. I can't say I follow GTD accurately, but I certainly use some parts of it that stuck with me.

Because my wife uses short lists that are around for shorter periods of time, she is more likely to use paper or a simple note app like the native iOS notes or Google Keep. I have tried to get her to use a shared task management app with me, but she wouldn't have it! :p I even proposed switching to a dead simple app that offered shared tasks as long as she was willing to use it, but she just doesn't feel the need to use an app dedicated to managing tasks and projects. Google Keep is as close as we get to sharing tasks and notes between us. I suppose I also got her to agree to a shared grocery list app (Bring), so she isn't completely averse to the idea of a task app.

As for my volume: I complete around 40 to 50 tasks a month. I'm not a perfect task app user, so sometimes I catch up during a weekly review of my tasks and I mark a bunch completed, delete a few, and add a few. I'm better at regularly adding things than I am about regularly completing them, but I try to keep a short focus list and choose two or three items from that to add to my list for Today. I try to keep Today short and sweet, and I do a quick daily review of my important tasks to determine what I will focus on for the day. I currently have almost 400 items in my task app, but most of those are items for someday or things that may not be tasks but I don't want to forget about them. I keep those lists hidden from my main focus views, because they aren't urgent or even things I actually need to do (but I might want to). I review them periodically to delete the cruft, but they are not part of my daily or weekly reviews.

I suppose I like TickTick because I do manage large number of lists and items. It's flexible enough to allow me to filter things in different ways that make sense to me, and it combines advanced features with an interface that is very fast and simple to work with. I've used other apps that left me feeling overwhelmed because I probably put more things on my lists than I should. TickTick is one that I stuck with because I have been able to maintain lots of lists and items without feeling overwhelmed. I think some of this is thanks to a well designed app, and some of it is due to me getting better at this stuff over time. There are some things I wish TickTick did that it doesn't do. I may even consider switching to something that can integrate natively with the tools I use at work (mostly Jira).

Sean
 

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Slightly confused by this as I use Siri integration for Things 3 and add timed reminders daily... Am I missing something? Things 3 is by far my most used app and nothing else compares for me. It can be as simple or as complicated as you want it to be. I use it for personal reminders, errands, subscription renewals, right through to complicated projects at work.

OmniFocus is just too cluttered, the UI looks rather ugly and the whole thing just clunky in comparison. It is also REALLY over priced for what it is. Just my personal opinion though lol
Unless I am missing something, (and I might be having another slow moment) there is no way to set a specific time for a task in Things 3 via the menu options. For me, that is a deal breaker.

As to Siri use, chalk that up to user error with settings. :D I shouldn't have to use Siri to set a specific time with a task, unless I want to use Siri.
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My wife and I are good examples of the vastly different approaches in terms of volume and structure. Some people maintain only short task lists related to specific contexts or projects. Others use task lists to help manage all aspects of their working and personal lives. I definitely fall into the latter category. Even when I was a teenager I was a list maker. If I don't make lists, I start to feel overwhelmed and anxious. That means I tend to have a lot of lists and a lot of items on those lists... so I need a tool that can help me avoid being overwhelmed by the lists that are supposed to keep me organized. My wife is just the opposite. She makes short lists for very specific projects, completes them, and throws them away. My lists are constantly churning with new tasks being added and old ones been completed, re-prioritized, or deleted. My dependency on lists led me to the popular David Allen GTD methodology some years ago, which many of these apps are based on. I read his book back then. I can't say I follow GTD accurately, but I certainly use some parts of it that stuck with me.

Because my wife uses short lists that are around for shorter periods of time, she is more likely to use paper or a simple note app like the native iOS notes or Google Keep. I have tried to get her to use a shared task management app with me, but she wouldn't have it! :p I even proposed switching to a dead simple app that offered shared tasks as long as she was willing to use it, but she just doesn't feel the need to use an app dedicated to managing tasks and projects. Google Keep is as close as we get to sharing tasks and notes between us. I suppose I also got her to agree to a shared grocery list app (Bring), so she isn't completely averse to the idea of a task app.

As for my volume: I complete around 40 to 50 tasks a month. I'm not a perfect task app user, so sometimes I catch up during a weekly review of my tasks and I mark a bunch completed, delete a few, and add a few. I'm better at regularly adding things than I am about regularly completing them, but I try to keep a short focus list and choose two or three items from that to add to my list for Today. I try to keep Today short and sweet, and I do a quick daily review of my important tasks to determine what I will focus on for the day. I currently have almost 400 items in my task app, but most of those are items for someday or things that may not be tasks but I don't want to forget about them. I keep those lists hidden from my main focus views, because they aren't urgent or even things I actually need to do (but I might want to). I review them periodically to delete the cruft, but they are not part of my daily or weekly reviews.

I suppose I like TickTick because I do manage large number of lists and items. It's flexible enough to allow me to filter things in different ways that make sense to me, and it combines advanced features with an interface that is very fast and simple to work with. I've used other apps that left me feeling overwhelmed because I probably put more things on my lists than I should. TickTick is one that I stuck with because I have been able to maintain lots of lists and items without feeling overwhelmed. I think some of this is thanks to a well designed app, and some of it is due to me getting better at this stuff over time. There are some things I wish TickTick did that it doesn't do. I may even consider switching to something that can integrate natively with the tools I use at work (mostly Jira).

Sean
With the 40 - 50 tasks a month, is each task a multiple-step large task?
 
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meeebee

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My wife and I are good examples of the vastly different approaches in terms of volume and structure. Some people maintain only short task lists related to specific contexts or projects. Others use task lists to help manage all aspects of their working and personal lives. I definitely fall into the latter category. Even when I was a teenager I was a list maker. If I don't make lists, I start to feel overwhelmed and anxious. That means I tend to have a lot of lists and a lot of items on those lists... so I need a tool that can help me avoid being overwhelmed by the lists that are supposed to keep me organized. My wife is just the opposite. She makes short lists for very specific projects, completes them, and throws them away. My lists are constantly churning with new tasks being added and old ones been completed, re-prioritized, or deleted. My dependency on lists led me to the popular David Allen GTD methodology some years ago, which many of these apps are based on. I read his book back then. I can't say I follow GTD accurately, but I certainly use some parts of it that stuck with me.

Because my wife uses short lists that are around for shorter periods of time, she is more likely to use paper or a simple note app like the native iOS notes or Google Keep. I have tried to get her to use a shared task management app with me, but she wouldn't have it! :p I even proposed switching to a dead simple app that offered shared tasks as long as she was willing to use it, but she just doesn't feel the need to use an app dedicated to managing tasks and projects. Google Keep is as close as we get to sharing tasks and notes between us. I suppose I also got her to agree to a shared grocery list app (Bring), so she isn't completely averse to the idea of a task app.

As for my volume: I complete around 40 to 50 tasks a month. I'm not a perfect task app user, so sometimes I catch up during a weekly review of my tasks and I mark a bunch completed, delete a few, and add a few. I'm better at regularly adding things than I am about regularly completing them, but I try to keep a short focus list and choose two or three items from that to add to my list for Today. I try to keep Today short and sweet, and I do a quick daily review of my important tasks to determine what I will focus on for the day. I currently have almost 400 items in my task app, but most of those are items for someday or things that may not be tasks but I don't want to forget about them. I keep those lists hidden from my main focus views, because they aren't urgent or even things I actually need to do (but I might want to). I review them periodically to delete the cruft, but they are not part of my daily or weekly reviews.

I suppose I like TickTick because I do manage large number of lists and items. It's flexible enough to allow me to filter things in different ways that make sense to me, and it combines advanced features with an interface that is very fast and simple to work with. I've used other apps that left me feeling overwhelmed because I probably put more things on my lists than I should. TickTick is one that I stuck with because I have been able to maintain lots of lists and items without feeling overwhelmed. I think some of this is thanks to a well designed app, and some of it is due to me getting better at this stuff over time. There are some things I wish TickTick did that it doesn't do. I may even consider switching to something that can integrate natively with the tools I use at work (mostly Jira).

Sean

That's close to how I manage my many tasks (about 300 active ones and about 20 projects). I have been using Toodledo, since it has some great custom searches, and it can integrate with quite a few iphone apps.

I did purchase Things 3 on the iphone only, and it is very smooth. I wish it could integrate with Windows or a web app, but that may be a while, if ever.

I will wait and see how the new owners will do, as they say that iOS and upgraded interface are tops on their list.
 
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KarimLeVallois

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Unless I am missing something, (and I might be having another slow moment) there is no way to set a specific time for a task in Things 3 via the menu options. For me, that is a deal breaker.

As to Siri use, chalk that up to user error with settings. :D I shouldn't have to use Siri to set a specific time with a task, unless I want to use Siri.
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With the 40 - 50 tasks a month, is each task a multiple-step large task?

Are you talking about the "+ Add Reminder" function?
 

sean000

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With the 40 - 50 tasks a month, is each task a multiple-step large task?

Some are and some aren't. Sometimes I use subtasks as a way to keep up with responses from my staff (i.e., I ask everyone to complete a process and then check off who has done it) and other times I use subtasks to simply break down large or multi-step tasks. Sometimes each subtask will be scheduled for a specific date/time.

Sean
 
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