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viskon

macrumors 6502
Oct 20, 2012
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A lot of good points in the discussion. The way I see it, Android being open source, encourages participation in its development from all over the world. At a philosophical level, very democratic. And this openness, will continue to be a source of strength for its continued innovation as people continue to participate and contribute ideas.
 

adder7712

macrumors 68000
Mar 9, 2009
1,923
1
Canada
File management
3rd party apps substituting stock/bundled apps
Content sharing to any application and not to predetermined options
Memory expansion (also applicable to certain WP phones)
Support for more media formats (FLAC for example)

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Can someone please post a link to how I can root my iPhone? Thanks.

Closest would be a jailbreak. ;)
 

strausd

macrumors 68030
Jul 11, 2008
2,998
1
Texas
Apple owners who want to read about or comment about non-Apple products will come to this forum.

I used Apple products very little. The one thing that Android does way better than iOS is being able to set a sound file as a ring tone.

Funny, on my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, moving a .mp3 into "alarms", "notifications", or "ringtones" won't make them appear as sound files when in settings under "Sounds" or in the clock app under alarms. In order to have them show up, I have to use a root file explorer and navigate to a specific root folder that would be inaccessible to the average user.

Not to mention updating my ROM (CyanogenMod for example) will revert this root folder back to normal. So for people who like to run nightlies, like myself, you have to constantly be putting in these audio files into that root folder every day.

On iOS, I could simply export out a song from GarageBand and it would do all the other work automatically.
 

strausd

macrumors 68030
Jul 11, 2008
2,998
1
Texas
One of the biggest problems with Android is that there's little consistency with the overall UI and logic to the organization of menus/settings. The way the menus are organized on Android are totally unintuitive and almost random.

Unless you have a device with onscreen buttons where you always have a back button and you can always (through third party ROM) show a menu button.
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
7,467
5,097
One of the biggest problems with Android is that there's little consistency with the overall UI and logic to the organization of menus/settings. The way the menus are organized on Android are totally unintuitive and almost random.

How so? The menu/settings are usually located in the same place (top right corner) and usually have much of the same submenus. As strausd mentioned, if you have come devices, there's always a menu button available (capacitive or soft key) at the bottom of the device.

If anything replacing Android with iOS in your statement would make it more accurate. In iOS, some apps have their settings within the app itself (and location within the app is inconsistent) while others are within the Settings app. Until you look for them though, there is no way of knowing which of these will apply. In fact, I believe some have parts of their settings in both spots. That's unintuitive.
 

samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
16,786
41,983
USA
One of the biggest problems with Android is that there's little consistency with the overall UI and logic to the organization of menus/settings. The way the menus are organized on Android are totally unintuitive and almost random.

Hmmm. I guess that's a matter of opinion because (for example) I find (at least before iOS7) that the settings options in iOS have always seemed random as to what was put where. Made little sense.
 

gotluck

macrumors 603
Dec 8, 2011
5,717
1,260
East Central Florida
Android is better at freedom. IOS is part of the slippery slope that will lead to the censorship/lockdown of the internet in the USA. The whole Apple really owns your device logic infuriates me.
 

*old-guy*

macrumors regular
Nov 22, 2007
161
0
Blackburn in North West England
This may be the wrong place to ask this question but it was the main reason why I sold my iPad2 and bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. Does the new iPad have a mini SD/TF card slot?
The Samsung, having such a slot, is much easier to use.
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Dec 15, 2010
30,991
20,174
UK
This may be the wrong place to ask this question but it was the main reason why I sold my iPad2 and bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. Does the new iPad have a mini SD/TF card slot?
The Samsung, having such a slot, is much easier to use.

nope it doesn't.
 

eclipse01

macrumors 68030
Original poster
May 16, 2011
2,844
404
Eau Claire, WI
Why would you poll users of an iPhone subforum regarding the functionality of an OS that the vast majority likely have never used? Conversely, while most readers of this subforum are using something other than an iPhone, I'd guess that nearly all of us have used one at one time or another (or still are). This forum is the most ideal spot for your question.

Apple owners who want to read about or comment about non-Apple products will come to this forum.

I used Apple products very little. The one thing that Android does way better than iOS is being able to set a sound file as a ring tone.

Because I wanted people who had used/uses IOS7 currently to compare it to Android, a lot of people in this thread have abandoned IOS and I really feel that IOS7 changed a ton and I just wanted to poll the IOS7 crowd, but the mods didn't see it that way.

but I do appreciate everyone's reply and opinions either way
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
961
5
Metro Vancouver, B.C, Canada
Funny, on my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, moving a .mp3 into "alarms", "notifications", or "ringtones" won't make them appear as sound files when in settings under "Sounds" or in the clock app under alarms. In order to have them show up, I have to use a root file explorer and navigate to a specific root folder that would be inaccessible to the average user.

Not to mention updating my ROM (CyanogenMod for example) will revert this root folder back to normal. So for people who like to run nightlies, like myself, you have to constantly be putting in these audio files into that root folder every day.

On iOS, I could simply export out a song from GarageBand and it would do all the other work automatically.

On my SGS3, I just dropped the file into the appropriate folder and I can set it as a ring tone. On my HTC Desire Z, I did need use RingDroid to set the file as a ring tone.

In comparison, when my wife switched from an Android phone to an iPhone, I had great difficulty moving her ring tone from her old Android phone to the iPhone. I had the MP3 file on her phone and my PC, but there did not appear to be any obvious way to move it to her iPhone so that she can set it as a ring tone. After hours of searching on the internet, I finally found a way to do it.

The steps seem totally convoluted to me. First I had to change some settings/options on iTunes on her PC. Then with these changes, import the sound file to iTunes. Then I had use a DOS prompt to rename the file extension after the import. After that, I could drop it into iCloud. It would then appear on her phone as an option for setting a ring tone.

I did try to use some apps, but for whatever reason they didn't work for me. I don't remember why. It just shouldn't be so complicated to use a sound file that you have as a ring tone.

That was over a year ago when my wife got her iPhone. Maybe things are simpler now. She hasn't felt the need to change her ring tone, and I didn't feel the need to go through that again.
 

Tsuchiya

macrumors 68020
Jun 7, 2008
2,310
372
So you mean identical features and not what Android can do that IOS can't right?

If so, Android does notifications much better, less intrusive and more organised.

I would also argue typing, going back to iOS after using an S4 for a couple of weeks I was surprised how much I missed a swipe keyboard. Granted here I'm talking about swift key not the stock android one which is OK but not anything special.

Without taking into account the flexibility of Android which sees it pull ahead, iOS is still much better for basic things like email and even copy and paste. There is no getting around the fact that iOS is a much more polished product.
 

THE JUICEMAN

macrumors 68020
Oct 3, 2007
2,371
1,122
One huge advantage that has been mentioned already is notifications.

How is this okay?? Now I can't press the cancel or reply button. I have to wait until the notification goes away or slide it away myself. Seems trivial but when a lot of notifications come in it is very annoying. It happens on movies and games too. Wtf?

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But it just really all comes down to choice. Apple tells us what screen size we get, what resolution, how big our battery is, how fast our processor is, what colors our phones are, what material our phones are made of, what apps are our default apps, what our home screens must look like, what keyboard we must use, what apps we can share with, how we manage notifications, Etc, etc. I could go on. Android you are free to choose all of these things and more. You make the phone or tablet what you want. Not what apple wants. It's that simple.

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That being said I know all of this and still haven't been able to get away from iPhone. But now android has caught up in a lot of the areas that drove me back to iPhone so I'm so ready to leave.
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
7,382
2
One huge advantage that has been mentioned already is notifications.

How is this okay?? Now I can't press the cancel or reply button. I have to wait until the notification goes away or slide it away myself. Seems trivial but when a lot of notifications come in it is very annoying. It happens on movies and games too. Wtf?

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I've said it before, I sincerely do not know how anyone can find iOS' method of notifications acceptable. How is blocking visibility and usability a "polished idea"?

People are so forgiving of Apple. I predict if this was a "feature" of Android while iOS had discrete notification icons in the status bar like Android, many would surely point out how obnoxious this method of notifications is.
 

flawlessvictory

macrumors newbie
Nov 6, 2012
10
0
I've said it before, I sincerely do not know how anyone can find iOS' method of notifications acceptable. How is blocking visibility and usability a "polished idea"?

People are so forgiving of Apple. I predict if this was a "feature" of Android while iOS had discrete notification icons in the status bar like Android, many would surely point out how obnoxious this method of notifications is.

I find Android's implementation way worse. If you don't like iOS why don't u post on one of the Android forums moreso? You seem to bitch and moan way too much, and try to push ur personal opinions on people more than anyone else on this side of the forums.

How about this, you hate iOS so much, stop going back. It's not for you but it's obviously a very good mobile OS.
 

PaulOBrain

macrumors regular
Aug 23, 2013
211
0
UK
People are so forgiving of Apple. I predict if this was a "feature" of Android while iOS had discrete notification icons in the status bar like Android, many would surely point out how obnoxious this method of notifications is.

Forgiving? Is it impossible to accept that people have different preferences to you? Good grief. You don't like iOS we get it.
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
7,382
2
I find Android's implementation way worse. If you don't like iOS why don't u post on one of the Android forums moreso? You seem to bitch and moan way too much, and try to push ur personal opinions on people more than anyone else on this side of the forums.

How about this, you hate iOS so much, stop going back. It's not for you but it's obviously a very good mobile OS.

Do you know what forum you're in? Do you know what thread you're in?

If you dislike reading my posts so much [in an open and free forum], please block me. You'll be doing us both a favor.

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Forgiving? Is it impossible to accept that people have different preferences to you?

Sure -- I don't doubt there are people who either don't mind or even like iOS' way of notifications. I never said such people don't exist nor that people can't and don't have preferences. Show me where I said this.

My point was, there's this idea that Apple's iOS is so polished, that they don't ever release a feature (hard or software-wise) until it's ready or until they "get it right." My question is, how are obstrusive notifications that momentarily block visibility and usability (the latter being more important), that pushes the screen downward (does it still do that? To be fair, I didn't get a notification while I was testing iOS 7)... how is any of this "polish" and "right"? Again, this is the typical Apple narrative, and drop down banner notifications just don't jive with being polished nor right nor, frankly, smart.

Good grief. You don't like iOS we get it.

You're in the "Alternative" section in a thread titled "Things Android Still Does Better." Hello? Good grief. And yet still, you can block people in an open forum. Feel free.
 

PaulOBrain

macrumors regular
Aug 23, 2013
211
0
UK
Show me where I said this.

"People are so forgiving of Apple"

Like its unacceptable to simply have a preference. YOU say this is unacceptable so everyone else must not like it and has to make allowances for it.

I accept there are many, many Apple apologists around and about but there are just as many on the other side of the fence. Both extremists are ridiculous, and need to get a grip.

If you find you jump on every thread to air your view at how you dislike a platform and reiterate that point many, many times (sound familiar?) then you need to accept that your bias is indeed coloured.

I am well aware I'm on the "Alternatives" section because yes I do own and use an iPhone but I also own a Nexus 7 and have just sold my Nexus 4. So sorry, I didn't realise you had to bash everything iOS and Apple did to qualify to be here. Must have missed that memo Couch.
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
7,382
2
"People are so forgiving of Apple"

Like its unacceptable to simply have a preference. YOU say this is unacceptable so everyone else must not like it and has to make allowances for it.

I accept there are many, many Apple apologists around and about but there are just as many on the other side of the fence. Both extremists are ridiculous, and need to get a grip.

If you find you jump on every thread to air your view at how you dislike a platform and reiterate that point many, many times (sound familiar?) then you need to accept that your bias is indeed coloured.

I am well aware I'm on the "Alternatives" section because yes I do own and use an iPhone but I also own a Nexus 7 and have just sold my Nexus 4. So sorry, I didn't realise you had to bash everything iOS and Apple did to qualify to be here. Must have missed that memo Couch.

Check my post history. Never said you had to bash anyone to be here.
 
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