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Sodner

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Jan 12, 2011
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OS Updates

Well Apple has a problem with pushing out updates to people that don't want them. (iOS 6 to iOS 7)

I guess you can say Android does that better because basically when you buy your Android phone its OS is probably already outdated and will never be updated.

lolz :D
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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The icons in the notification bar don't really take up any space other than the space other notifications appear. You can simply ignore them without any action and it shouldn't get in the way of anything unless you are wanting to see how many bars you have or how much battery you have left.

Android also allows you to control which notifications you get as well. I've configured my phone and apps to only send me certain notifications. Depending on the app, you can also indicate whether or not the notification is audible, visual, both or neither.

I never said they "get in the way" or anything. You may not care about ignoring them, but they bother me. I don't like the cluttering of my status bar.

I also never made any statement about what Android can/cannot do. I'm aware you can customize almost anything. I was simply stating I like iOS's implementation better. It suits me.

All the options you stated mean nothing to me - they only serve to complicate what is a relatively simple concept. Again, I'm happy the choice is there. But stating MY personal preferences, I don't see a point and don't like Android's implementation as much as iOS's.
 

eclipse01

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May 16, 2011
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Well Apple has a problem with pushing out updates to people that don't want them. (iOS 6 to iOS 7)

I guess you can say Android does that better because basically when you buy your Android phone its OS is probably already outdated and will never be updated.

lolz :D

I lol'd

this is so true, do any devices even have 4.3 Jellybean yet other then Nexus devices, this update has been out well over a month now.

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I've been through the note 2 and s4. Both lag even with custom ROMs.

as does my Nexus 7
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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must be, of course I am the problem.

You've also never seen a GS4 GE in person :D

I'm an iOS guy and I can say my GS4 doesn't lag hardly at all. And I'm not running anything special - just stock TouchWiz on 4.2.2 with NovaPrime as my launcher.

The whole "Android lags" thing is overblown....don't feed them.
 

gotluck

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Dec 8, 2011
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I'm an iOS guy and I can say my GS4 doesn't lag hardly at all. And I'm not running anything special - just stock TouchWiz on 4.2.2 with NovaPrime as my launcher.

The whole "Android lags" thing is overblown....don't feed them.

indeed, I was asking for it.

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There is countless threads on stutter on galaxy devices. Probably mainly due to touch wiz.

yea considering GS4 GE is stock android and doesnt have touchwiz..
you have no idea what you are talking about and have defenitely never seen the device
cya
 

THE JUICEMAN

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Oct 3, 2007
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Ok, to the person that complained about the notification, you can grab it and pull it up to hide it, not that hard and not a big deal.

I know, I stated that in the post. But it's still very intrusive. Especially if you get a lot of notifications. Watching a YouTube video and they keep popping up over the screen. That's crazy to me.
 

Dmaynard83

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Jul 16, 2012
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indeed, I was asking for it.

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yea considering GS4 GE is stock android and doesnt have touchwiz..
you have no idea what you are talking about and have defenitely never seen the device
cya

You are wrong. And arrogant for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about.

I've been a chronic flasher since the release of the s4. The s4 still has TW framework on the ge s4. That is how you are able to use TW camera on the ge s4. Ask any developer of the ge s4 ROMs and they will tell you the same thing.

The nexus might offer a more smooth experience, but put up against iOS I think it's no comparison.

There are many things you can do on android devices but not a lot of it (in my experience) translates to real life application.
 

gotluck

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You are wrong. And arrogant for assuming I don't know what I'm talking about.

I've been a chronic flasher since the release of the s4. The s4 still has TW framework on the ge s4 and it will not work without mods. That is how you are able to use TW camera on the ge s4. Ask any developer of the ge s4 ROMs and they will tell you the same thing.

The nexus might offer a more smooth experience, but put up against iOS I think it's no comparison.

There are many things you can do on android devices but not a lot of it (in my experience) translates to real life application.

You still aren't getting it. The s4 Google play edition is a different device. A flashed traditional s4 with a Ge ROM is not the same thing. There is no tw camera on my Google play edition s4 and it is not possible without mods. It is completely stock android with a few extra device drivers for extra hardware that does not exist on nexus devices. And no touchwiz is not a device driver. This is why a full conversion is not possible as it is with the htc one.

If the Ge had touchwiz integrated why is xda working on porting touchwiz to the i9505g? The system partition is far too small for the full tw install.

If you are alluding to the fact thar the s4 cover works with the Ge s4 yes that one element of touchwiz carries over.
 
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Dmaynard83

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Jul 16, 2012
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You still aren't getting it. The s4 Google play edition is a different device. A flashed traditional s4 with a Ge ROM is not the same thing. There is no tw camera on my Google play edition s4 and it is not possible without mods. It is completely stock android with a few extra device drivers for extra hardware that does not exist on nexus devices. And no touchwiz is not a device driver. This is why a full conversion is not possible as it is with the htc one.

If the Ge had touchwiz integrated why is xda working on porting touchwiz to the i9505g? The system partition is far too small for the full tw install.

If you are alluding to the fact thar the s4 cover works with the Ge s4 yes that one element of touchwiz carries over.

Hardware is the same. The TW camera is portable to the ge ROMs because there is still TW framework.

Also a s4 can be converted to ge s4 from a rom AND receive OTA updates.
 

appledes7

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Nor is iOS lag free.

I have not experienced lag whatsoever on my HTC One. At all. And since the 4.3 update, it's actually snappier than ever.

You never experienced lag on your HTC One but after an update it is snappier? Doesn't that mean it had to be less snappy before the update, meaning there were at least some slow downs/lags?

I'm on a Nexus 4 and even my iPhone 4S, which I sold, had less lag than my Nexus 4 does.
 

gotluck

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Dec 8, 2011
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Hardware is the same. The TW camera is portable to the ge ROMs because there is still TW framework.

Also a s4 can be converted to ge s4 from a rom AND receive OTA updates.

no it cannot be fully converted and receive ota updates the PIT files and partitions are different and the issue has not been solved.
i would love to see the source of the rom with these capabilities.
OTA updates on originally TW devices with GE roms fail
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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You never experienced lag on your HTC One but after an update it is snappier? Doesn't that mean it had to be less snappy before the update, meaning there were at least some slow downs/lags?

I'm on a Nexus 4 and even my iPhone 4S, which I sold, had less lag than my Nexus 4 does.

Do you know what lag means? Things can be faster without meaning they were slow before.

Isn't iOS getting faster and faster with each update? Does that mean it inherently had lag before? (Which is different from saying iOS doesn't lag).
 

T5BRICK

macrumors G3
Aug 3, 2006
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But it is there, you were implying they don't have one at all.

I'm saying that the notification light isn't useful because of the placement and the way it functions. When I had this enabled on my iPhone 4s, it would blink a single time when the notification was received, and that was it. On my HTC One, it blinks continuously until I turn the screen on.

Then, I'll get into the fact that different colors can indicate different types of notifications. The iPhone can't do that with the white LED, maybe it'll be an option on the 5s.

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I'm not getting into this again - whenever I do, the conversation always ends with my example scenario and no counter argument.

I see ZERO point in a notification light and in fact, find it a detriment when I'm trying to sleep and this little light is flashing.

Kudos to people who like them. That's great. Just sharing my opinion.

I have the option to set a "Quiet time" on my device, and a separate check-box that disables the LED notification light during that quiet time. My phone doesn't blink or make a peep between 10pm and 6am.

OR!

I have the choice to disable the notification light and simply not use it at all.

I'm just saying that the option for a useful, thoughtfully placed notification light is one of the things I think Android does better.
 
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