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eclipse01

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Ok, to the person that complained about the notification, you can grab it and pull it up to hide it, not that hard and not a big deal.
 

jrswizzle

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For me, here's my list of things I prefer on my Android versus my iPhone:

-Swipe typing (using Kii)
-Multiple email attachments
-Generally larger screen options (not an Android thing, but a characteristic of most Android devices)

I do like the customization on Android somewhat, but it's no deal breaker for me. I actually try to customize my Android devices to be more uniform - something iOS already is. My icon set is uniform and clean, I don't use many widgets and I tend towards finding ONE app per task (something Android is terrible at).

I actually prefer Apple's notification implementation - which I know won't be popular. I'm not a fan of a bunch of icons in the status bar. I suppose they do their job because it irritates me to the point I get rid of them as quickly as possible. I don't mind throwing a swipe up to get rid of notifications that pop in banner wise on iOS. And of course you can control most of where and when and what app throws these types of notifications at you in iOS. I haven't yet encountered a moment where I'm doing something that requires a tap in the area the notification comes in at the precise time a notification comes in.

Anyhow, just my preferences.
 

Technarchy

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Ok, to the person that complained about the notification, you can grab it and pull it up to hide it, not that hard and not a big deal.

I definitely prefer the iOS notification system with banners, badges, and glance and go information on the lockscreen. The main thing about the android notification system I like is the status bar icons.
 

jrswizzle

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In terms of top ten things I will miss when getting the iPhone 5S:

1: Swype
2: Contact on homescreen with all social networks, email, phone numbers and video chat ID's all aggregated in one place
3: Launching apps from lock screen
4. Status bar notification icons
5. Setting default apps
6. Glance and go information
7. Two apps running at the same time (GS4 Feature)
8. Clearing all apps in one easy action
9. Music widget with full controls on home screen
10. Google Play Music All Access

I'm curious to see your answer to Couch's question - as you and I generally are in the same minority (use both iOS and Android, prefer iOS but like Android as well).

As for your list, there are a few things that are interesting to me given my understanding of your views on both:

3. Siri can launch ANY app from the lockscreen - just ask. On Android devices you're limited to the ones you can put there (and you can't have lockscreen apps with certain security options - like mine went away when I chose to add a pattern lock). EDIT: Here I'm talking from a stock TouchWiz perspective....there are likely ways to do the things I mentioned through various apps and whatnot.....

7. How often do you use this? Just curious - while an interesting idea, I just can't see too many instances where splitting even a 5" screen in two makes much sense.

9. Haven't there always been full music controls on iOS? First in the multitasking bar, now in control center.

The others I either agree with or find preferential. I only point out your post because of our general agreement on most things and I find this list interesting given your posts. :D

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I definitely prefer the iOS notification system with banners, badges, and glance and go information on the lockscreen. The main thing about the android notification system I like is the status bar icons.

Lock screen notifications are my FAVORITE thing about iOS's system. Really kills any need for a notification light IMO and is infinitely more useful and informative.
 

samcraig

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"People are so forgiving of Apple"

Like its unacceptable to simply have a preference. YOU say this is unacceptable so everyone else must not like it and has to make allowances for it.

He never said it was unacceptable. That's your interpretation. He stated an opinion that people are so forgiving of Apple.

That doesn't even have to be a negative thing. Those that use iOS accept that Apple has a way of doing things. Both OSes have pluses and minuses. Users of either platform (or both) have to accept these shortcomings, etc

And again - you're on a subform and a thread specifically about the benefits of Android.

I'm also unsure what you're seeking by attacking the poster in this manner. A recantation? I don't see it happening. ;)
 

PaulOBrain

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And again - you're on a subform and a thread specifically about the benefits of Android.

And again I'm well aware as I included that in the bit you cut out ;)

Leave the reiterating and constant repeating to Couch. He does it so well over and over.
 

Spacial

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Ignorance is bliss..

Your assumptions are misleading, your choice to call me ignorant reveals more about you.

I'm currently using both platforms, my first hand experience & ability to perform side by side comparisons is invaluable. Why both? Because I enjoy each for their respective strengths.

My phones? Galaxy S4 on Android 4.2.x and iPhone 5 on iOS 7.

I don't advocate for either, just share my experiences, opinions and the variety these two provide :D
 

eclipse01

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Your assumptions are misleading, your choice to call me ignorant reveals more about you.

I'm currently using both platforms, my first hand experience & ability to perform side by side comparisons is invaluable. Why both? Because I enjoy each for their respective strengths.

My phones? Galaxy S4 on Android 4.2.x and iPhone 5 on iOS 7.

I don't advocate for either, just share my experiences, opinions and the variety these two provide :D

but your agreement to the other post makes it sound like there are no strengths to IOS

btw I also use both platforms daily and they both do have their strengths and weaknesses IMO
 

Dontazemebro

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Ignorance is bliss..

Pretty much

Things I would like to see improved on in Android

1. Better Touch responsiveness
2. Better Indie game content and more diverse content overall (eg. Music instrument apps)
3. More ui cohesiveness across the board although this does look like it's coming together nicely with the card style ui
4 Better 3rd party app tablet support
5 Updates updates updates
 

eclipse01

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Pretty much

Things I would like to see improved on in Android

1. Better Touch responsiveness
2. Better Indie game content and more diverse content overall (eg. Music instrument apps)
3. More ui cohesiveness across the board although this does look like it's coming together nicely with the card style ui
4 Better 3rd party app tablet support
5 Updates updates updates

this is one thing that annoys me the most, seems MANY things are IOS exclusive or have a horrible slimmed down version of the app on the IOS side.

heck the very popular speedtest.net app doesn't even have a full screen version and maxes out at 3mg.
Huge hit games like Plants vs Zombies 2 isn't even on the radar for an Android release.
 

T5BRICK

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Lock screen notifications are my FAVORITE thing about iOS's system. Really kills any need for a notification light IMO and is infinitely more useful and informative.

Lock screen notifications that require the user to interact with the phone don't seem like a very good replacement for a notification light. The notification light can tell you at a glance, with absolutely no user interaction. If it's flashing there is something to see. If not, nothing new.
 

Technarchy

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Lock screen notifications that require the user to interact with the phone don't seem like a very good replacement for a notification light. The notification light can tell you at a glance, with absolutely no user interaction. If it's flashing there is something to see. If not, nothing new.

A notification light tells you what exactly? Nothing in reality.

I get notifications all day from email, hangouts, text, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and tons of other news and apps. It's a given that I have a notification, so that stupid little light has no value to me.

With lockscreen notifications I get glance and go information, with actual information, which is far more valuable to me.
 

samcraig

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A notification light tells you what exactly? Nothing in reality.

I get notifications all day from email, hangouts, text, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and tons of other news and apps. It's a given that I have a notification, so that stupid little light has no value to me.

With lockscreen notifications I get glance and go information, with actual information, which is far more valuable to me.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samr.notificationWallpaper&hl=en

And there are a few others that have gotten good reviews...
 

T5BRICK

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A notification light tells you what exactly? Nothing in reality.

It tells you that you have a notification. How is that nothing?

I get notifications all day from email, hangouts, text, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and tons of other news and apps. It's a given that I have a notification, so that stupid little light has no value to me.

With lockscreen notifications I get glance and go information, with actual information, which is far more valuable to me.

With lockscreen notifications I still have to pick up my phone and interact with it to see if there is even a notification. I hate constantly picking my phone up to check and see if I have a notification.

A notification light wouldn't HURT anything by existing on an iPhone, even if you don't use it. I can turn it off on my phone but it serves a purpose and I find it very useful.
 

gotluck

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A notification light tells you what exactly? Nothing in reality.

I get notifications all day from email, hangouts, text, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and tons of other news and apps. It's a given that I have a notification, so that stupid little light has no value to me.

With lockscreen notifications I get glance and go information, with actual information, which is far more valuable to me.

To me a notification light is like NFC, why not have it? It doesn't kill battery life or have any negative effects.
 

eclipse01

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It tells you that you have a notification. How is that nothing?



With lockscreen notifications I still have to pick up my phone and interact with it to see if there is even a notification. I hate constantly picking my phone up to check and see if I have a notification.

A notification light wouldn't HURT anything by existing on an iPhone, even if you don't use it. I can turn it off on my phone but it serves a purpose and I find it very useful.

this has been in IOS for years (Settings, General, accessibility, LED flash for alerts)
 

Stuntman06

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Sep 19, 2011
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I actually prefer Apple's notification implementation - which I know won't be popular. I'm not a fan of a bunch of icons in the status bar. I suppose they do their job because it irritates me to the point I get rid of them as quickly as possible. I don't mind throwing a swipe up to get rid of notifications that pop in banner wise on iOS. And of course you can control most of where and when and what app throws these types of notifications at you in iOS. I haven't yet encountered a moment where I'm doing something that requires a tap in the area the notification comes in at the precise time a notification comes in.

The icons in the notification bar don't really take up any space other than the space other notifications appear. You can simply ignore them without any action and it shouldn't get in the way of anything unless you are wanting to see how many bars you have or how much battery you have left.

Android also allows you to control which notifications you get as well. I've configured my phone and apps to only send me certain notifications. Depending on the app, you can also indicate whether or not the notification is audible, visual, both or neither.

A notification light tells you what exactly? Nothing in reality.

I get notifications all day from email, hangouts, text, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and tons of other news and apps. It's a given that I have a notification, so that stupid little light has no value to me.

Depending on the phone you have, different apps can make the notification light appear different. That way, you can tell what type of notification you have.
 

T5BRICK

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this has been in IOS for years (Settings, General, accessibility, LED flash for alerts)

That never worked for me because I never set my phone face down. The notification light is right on the front of my HTC One, just above the screen.

To each their own.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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Lock screen notifications that require the user to interact with the phone don't seem like a very good replacement for a notification light. The notification light can tell you at a glance, with absolutely no user interaction. If it's flashing there is something to see. If not, nothing new.

I'm not getting into this again - whenever I do, the conversation always ends with my example scenario and no counter argument.

I see ZERO point in a notification light and in fact, find it a detriment when I'm trying to sleep and this little light is flashing.

Kudos to people who like them. That's great. Just sharing my opinion.
 
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